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Point of Origin

(The Survivors #2)

Amanda Havard

4.09 · Rating details · 242 ratings · 39 reviews

The winter is upon us. The Survivors are in chaos. The war is coming.

One year ago, Sadie Matthau was living among humans, existing as one of them. But now she wakes each morning in a house in the Survivors’ City, listening to the invocations and insults of her family members as they cope with their new future. A war. Rogue abandoners turned monsters. Sadie and the icy Wint ...more

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Published June 12th 2012 by Chafie Press (first published June 10th 2012)

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Jun 14, 2011 Sarah (Workaday Reads) rated it liked it

Shelves: read-in-2012, bea-2012

The second book in the series dives right into the story. There is a bit of an assumption that you have read the first book recently because there isn't much recap. Not necessarily a bad thing, but if there is a space of time or several books between when you read the first and second books, it can create a bit of confusion.

The story really centres on Sadie and the Winters. I must admit that I am not a fan of Everett. He is too bossy, temperamental and cold for me. I love Mark though. He's sweet ...more

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Sep 06, 2013 Dianne rated it it was amazing

Shelves: adult-fiction, paranormal, own, paranormal-romance, dark-fantasy

Get ready for book two in the Survivors Series! Did you love book one? Expect to be wowed again by Point of Origin by Amanda Havard and her brilliantly creative talent as we are taken on a ride of discovery, truths, lies, misdirections, revelations and, of course, more questions.
As Sadie continues on her quest for knowledge of her people’s past, she is still contemplating trying to find a way to end her long life, all in the name of research, of course. Yet she needs to get to the origins of her ...more

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Apr 27, 2012 KP rated it it was amazing

Holy cow! Amanda Havard has done it again, and this time Book 2 is better than the first!! I love these characters (especially Everett!!), and am in a need-to-know more frenzy now. The Survivors: Point of Origin is smart writing that takes you on a journey filled with unexpected twists and turns. I went into it with about a million theories of where I thought the story was headed. I ended up being wrong about most of them! Amanda Havard takes you through history and mythology and the supernatura ...more

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Apr 20, 2012 Katie rated it really liked it

Shelves: blog-tour, arc

Point of Origin was an excellent follow-up to The Survivors! (To read my review for the first book, please click here.) In fact, it was a better book than The Survivors and definitely does not suffer from Second Book Syndrome. I was right in predicting more character growth, intense action and confrontations, and a deeper romance in Point of Origin. There was also a lot of unpredictability in this half of the story, which I loved! I hate figuring out what will happen and I love surprises. I was ...more

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Jan 22, 2012 Mundie Moms & Mundie Kids rated it really liked it

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3.5 stars

Thinking I'd get many of the questions I had after finishing The Survivors answered, I picked this book immediately after finishing it and was surprising thrown further into Amanda's incredibly intriguing paranormal world. Amanda doesn't tread lightly with this sequel. She throws in more twists, uncovers more secrets and introduces readers to a few new characters who end up playing some big roles in this series. The romance, the action, and the impending war added uncertainty and a litt 3.5 stars

Thinking I'd get many of the questions I had after finishing The Survivors answered, I picked this book immediately after finishing it and was surprising thrown further into Amanda's incredibly intriguing paranormal world. Amanda doesn't tread lightly with this sequel. She throws in more twists, uncovers more secrets and introduces readers to a few new characters who end up playing some big roles in this series. The romance, the action, and the impending war added uncertainty and a little bit suspense to the series. I liked being able to get a more in-depth look into the role the Salem Witch trials play in this series, and particularly in Sadie's life, as well as getting to understand more of the paranormal lore through Sadie's research.

Sadie's constant curiosity and need for answers leads to some extremely interesting finds. I loved feeling like I was getting what was going on at the same time she was. Without Sadie there'd be a lot big pieces missing from the complex puzzle that's behind the impending war. Despite Sadie's book smarts, this time around I was surprised with how much Sadie irritated me. Don't get me wrong, she's still a good character, but I got frustrated with the way she handles some "situations" in this book. I get that she uncovers a lot, and finds out some surprising secrets, but her running off when things got hard really got on my nerves. I felt she regressed a bit as a character during those scenes. Then there's time I felt like I understood her struggle with trying to fit in w/ her immortal family and that of wanting nothing to do with them and wanting to be in the human world. I got how that effected her and some of the choices she makes. I as a reader understood the war that was constantly going on in her head over who she is and what her heart really wants.

The character chemistry definitely heats up in this book. I seriously love Everett! He's definitely won me over, and I admire him for fighting his true nature to make things work with Sadie. His protectiveness and overall concern for her is admirable and at the same time a little over protective, but given Everett's nature it's understandable. Again, I adore Everett's family as well. His brother Mark is another fabulous character I liked seeing more of in this book. I was surprised to see the role that Cole continues to play in this book, and I couldn't laugh out loud over a scene with him, Everett, Mark and Sadie. Cole is again that southern gentleman I first met in The Survivors, and he definitely brings something different to the table for Sadie.

I'm not really sure what I was excepting with this sequel, but I certainly wasn't excepting some of the events that took place to happen. Getting to dig deeper into Sadie's family's lore, seeing how the characters grow and changed, and how all the twists and secrets fit into the over all complex mystery that's behind all that's going on in this sequel was definitely engaging and kept me glued to the pages of this book. I wanted to know more. Amanda definitely brought out a few emotions from me I wasn't excepting to have towards a few characters. I might have mentally yelled at a few characters for doing some of the things they do. Again, there's characters you'll love and characters you're going to love to hate in this series. Amanda does a great job at giving them each a purpose in this book. That ending killed me and now I'm wishing I had book 3 in my hands. I need more answers! ...more

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Apr 08, 2011 Amanda Croley rated it really liked it

In the first book we meet Sadie who has lived with the other survivors for 150 years (give or take) in their mountain compound. No one leaves, and they do not have any modern technology. Over the years she has snuck out to the closest town, reading any book she can get her hands on. She wants to be a part of the human world, and wants mortality for herself. She decides that it is time to leave when she hears one of the elders, John, plan to have her raped because she is not doing her duty in pro In the first book we meet Sadie who has lived with the other survivors for 150 years (give or take) in their mountain compound. No one leaves, and they do not have any modern technology. Over the years she has snuck out to the closest town, reading any book she can get her hands on. She wants to be a part of the human world, and wants mortality for herself. She decides that it is time to leave when she hears one of the elders, John, plan to have her raped because she is not doing her duty in procreating. She travels the world and lives as a human for four years, until she meets the Winters. They are vampires, and she instantly falls for Everett, dumping her human boyfriend Cole. Anthony, Everett's father tells her of his vision, that 28 rogue survivors left after she did. They have turned into blood drinking monsters creating havoc wherever they go, and that they intend to return to Survivor City and start a war.

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Sadie and the Winters agree to return to tell the other Survivors what is coming. She is not welcomed back, but hated for all she has done, and what she represents. She knows the elders are keeping secrets, and refuse to help her. She and the Winters set out again to discover any other survivors, or anyone who knows of survivors. Their plan is to learn how to kill one, so they are able to defeat the rogues. They discover their supposed ally Samantha Parker is actually working for Alexander Raven, gathering information. They find Raven who is spoken of during the Salem Witch trials, and he confesses that he is the oldest supernatural creature, and thinks of himself as a God. He also confirms that he creates families all over the world, only to return once their powers have evolved, stealing their powers and killing them in the process. His plan all along is to use the 28 rogue survivors to kill everyone in Survivor City. His reasoning is that it will be easier to take all of the powers the 28 have acquired instead of having to kill everyone of the other survivors. Narcisca and Valentin, another couple that traveled with Parker, also claiming to be allies, are in the last chapter talking with Raven. He tells them to find Sadie, and travel with her, which is what they did until they met the Raven and he killed Valentin. Sadie and Everett's relationship is toxic. He is moody, demanding, and controlling, but Sadie blames it all on the climate. Apparently being in colder weather makes them more blood thirsty. She goes back to Cole three times in this book, for good at the end. Once she sees what love has done to Narcisca at Valentin's death, she refuses to lose Everett that way. What confused me is that she is much more likely to lose Cole, a human than Everett. For future reference: The Winters consist of the father Anthony, mother Adelaide, their children Ginny, Everett, Mark, Patrick and his wife Madeline. Lizzie is one of the Elders that Sadie is closest to, raised in the same household. They have an argument towards the end because Lizzie refuses to tell Sadie what she knows. ...more

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Jul 23, 2013 Roxanne Kade rated it really liked it

With an amazing start to this series I eagerly dove right into book 2, and I'm so thrilled that it lived up to my every expectation. It delivered an exciting plot, with all the twists and turns, never giving too much away, but just enough to keep me enthralled.

As Sadie continued with her inner turmoil, she faced greater threats than ever before. The war loomed and she still had to put up with the hatred of her own kind. Then there's her continued struggle with her love for a monster. Add to that With an amazing start to this series I eagerly dove right into book 2, and I'm so thrilled that it lived up to my every expectation. It delivered an exciting plot, with all the twists and turns, never giving too much away, but just enough to keep me enthralled.

As Sadie continued with her inner turmoil, she faced greater threats than ever before. The war loomed and she still had to put up with the hatred of her own kind. Then there's her continued struggle with her love for a monster. Add to that, the changes to her powers that give her a front row view of the chaos and destruction caused by her kin, and finally the point of origin; the one pulling all the strings. It's no wonder the girl seemed like a bit of a nutter at times.

I felt more settled in the story, having gotten to know all the characters in book 1, and it felt like I was right alongside them as they searched for ways to end the war that threatened to end the Survivors, as well as the truth to the many lies that had been told for centuries. Even if the Survivors believed they were protecting their own, it felt wrong. There were just too many half-truths and secrets.

As Sadie and her companions delved deeper and deeper into the origin of the Survivors, the darker this story became. And I have to admit that it crept under my skin to the point where I felt the need to sleep with the lights on. There was a eeriness to the story that just gave me the chills.

I was excited to see Cole Hardwick hadn't disappeared completely, although I wouldn't have blamed him if he had, and every time I thought of him I couldn't stop myself from hating Sadie a little. I hated how she used him. Even when her powers made her privy to his most inner feelings and thoughts, she still had this selfish disregard for him. I wish she had just ended it once and for all, but when this never happened I had to wonder if Cole played a bigger role in the story. Her actions at the end were a little puzzling, and again I was shocked at her selfishness. All she knew was to run, which was a sad thing for her, but I wish she had been tougher and was willing to stand up with everyone instead of always expecting them to pick up the pieces, while giving false hope to others.

Of course, I still hadn't completely warmed up to Everett by the end of this book. He was a little too moody and for someone who had so much physical strength, he lacked in confidence when it came to his relationship with Sadie. However, I cannot fault him completely. He did really care for her, and some of the more private moments spent with her were sweet.

If there's something Havard does well, it is cliffhangers! There is no way that anyone reading this book won't immediately grab a copy of her next book as soon as it's released. (Lucky for us, today is that day!!) The ending held so much promise but also so much heartache for at least one if not more of the characters who've latched onto my soul. ...more

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Apr 01, 2012 Splash Of Our Worlds *Yiota* rated it really liked it

3.5 stars

Finally! The Survivors was one of my favorite books of 2011 so i couldn't wait for this one to come out and read it! And i finally did! Yay!

Now we all know what's happening, more or less, with the Survivors and Sadie, Amanda Havard goes one step farther into the story. We follow Sadie trying to find a way to kill the Survivors that left, so we are going adventuring..in a way...it's quite of a high class adventure instead of the Indiana Jones thing.

The book this time is more concentrate 3.5 stars

Finally! The Survivors was one of my favorite books of 2011 so i couldn't wait for this one to come out and read it! And i finally did! Yay!

Now we all know what's happening, more or less, with the Survivors and Sadie, Amanda Havard goes one step farther into the story. We follow Sadie trying to find a way to kill the Survivors that left, so we are going adventuring..in a way...it's quite of a high class adventure instead of the Indiana Jones thing.

The book this time is more concentrated on the Point of Origin and the characters. We get to know all the characters in an entirely different level and understand them later. Some secrets and betrayals were revealed too, which totally made me go (view spoiler) Sadie, is not suicidal anymore but she really misses her human life which turn her into a little emo at times. Which makes sense, but she is a little annoying. Still, when she has a job to do, nothing matter. Done and done!

As for the search of Point of Origin, there is an amazing visit at Salem, clues, mysteries, magic. Are all part of the hunt, with a little danger of course with the difference you fly first class :P At the end, when they find the Point of Origin and our evil guy, there are more new things that you get to know about the upcoming war. And here we are in a point i want to discuss.

The evil bad guy. You see i loved the book. But when the bad guy is WAY too strong, it's a little dangerous for the story, because you need to have a really good and believable explanation on how to win him (if you win him) and not turning it to something fake and go boom like Paolini's Inheritance. I just really hope everything goes well because i worry. And while i liked the whole ancient history part, the whole Trojan War thing didn't convince me and it seemed out of place, which totally makes me be more afraid of the ending of the story. Of course at the end, everyone might die so no problem there.

Still survivors was a really good read and i totally enjoyed it. Again was one of my favorite reads of the year despite its flaws. And after the first chapter of the 3rd book that was inside, i'm a little like "pleeeeeeaaaaseee faaaaasteeeeeeeeeeeerrrr". I mean you can't just delete the name of a person who dies and leave it like that! That's unfair! ...more

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Jul 23, 2011 Erica rated it it was amazing

4.5 stars

Amanda Havard has delivered a book so intricately woven and so richly diverse in the mythology she uses with Point of Origin. The Survivors Series is paranormal as its finest, and I absolutely loved this one.

Amanda Havard is one heck of a story teller - she manages to draw readers right back into the world of the Survivors within a few pages of Point of Origin. And once she draws you in, she doesn't let you go. The characters in Point of Origin have a trying journey and I felt like I wa 4.5 stars

Amanda Havard has delivered a book so intricately woven and so richly diverse in the mythology she uses with Point of Origin. The Survivors Series is paranormal as its finest, and I absolutely loved this one.

Amanda Havard is one heck of a story teller - she manages to draw readers right back into the world of the Survivors within a few pages of Point of Origin. And once she draws you in, she doesn't let you go. The characters in Point of Origin have a trying journey and I felt like I was transported right alongside them in their world. I was on the edge of my seat cheering for the characters and worrying for them when things weren't going exactly how they planned. Point of Origin was a book full of twists and turns I could never see coming. It was such a fun ride.

The concept of The Survivors series is so intriguing, unique, and utterly bewitching. Everything that was established in The Survivors has only been explored more indepthly in Point of Origin, all while new ideas are introduced alongside these. I love Amanda Havard's use of mythology and history - it is so interesting to see the how the mythology plays out. There are such unique creatures in Amanda Havard's world that I had never heard of. Point of Origin poses nearly as many questions as it answers, so I cannot wait to discover those answers in the next installment of the series!

I just love the characters of this series. Something about each of them is just so special. I like Sadie - she is not afraid to be herself, no matter what others think. I also really like Mark and Ginny - both of them are just so endearing and I love every scene they are in. Point of Origin really lets characters get to know Everett a lot better as a character - to see all the facets of his personality. Though, I am still very much a part of Team Cole - I can't help it, I just love Cole!

Point of Origin by Amanda Havard was everything I was looking for in the sequel to The Survivors - it was fast paced, enticing, and kept me on the edge of my seat. Amanda Havard is one talented woman and I cannot wait to see where she takes her characters in the next installment of The Survivors series. ...more

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Jul 16, 2013 tinyteaplots rated it really liked it

Shelves: 4-star, zz-2013-reads

Amanda Harvard does it again in the second installment of her fantastic The Survivors series, The Survivors: Point of Origin. This book is even better than the first, with a faster pace and even more mystery to ponder. Its been over a year since a fantasy plot has been able to keep me so enthralled.

In Point of Origin we finally get some answers, but they're delivered along side a new helping of questions, and the mystery continues. The book starts by throwing us directly into a new and confusing ...more

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Aug 17, 2013 Maria rated it it was amazing

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Expect the unexpected.

This is one, and maybe the only, thing you should come to expect as you read Point of Origin and continue to follow Sadie on quest of self discovery to find out what she is and if she can become mortal. For 145-year-old Sadie, being forever 21 is not something she had wanted. Will any of what Sadie learns get her any closer to the truth?

On Sadie’s quest, Havard takes us on a riveting ride through world mythology showing us how connected we all are on normal and paranormal l ...more

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Feb 21, 2012 Lizzie rated it it was amazing

I need the third book to come out now! I was given a great chance to receive an ARC copy of Point of Origin, I thank Amanda Havard and Chafie Press for the opportunity to read and give a review on this book! Great second part to the Survivors story! This part of Sadie's life was all about researching to help her family (both the Survivors and her new found family) get a better advantage on the upcoming war. More importantly to find the "point of origin", because the Survivors had to come from so ...more

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Apr 19, 2012 Hannah Courtney rated it really liked it

Amanda Havard is an amazing storyteller who spins a tangled web of secrets and half truths in Point of Origin. Everyone has a secret and Sadie Matthau spends much of Point of Origin trying to figure out what they are. Truly one of the best elements of The Survivors series is Havard’s ability to build an epic puzzle for her fans and then watch as they try and sort through the pieces with Sadie.
With an expertise in fashion and cars, Sadie ventures out into the world to discover the secrets behind ...more

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Mar 20, 2012 Kallie rated it it was amazing

Point of Origin is the second book in The Survivors Series by Amanda Havard. After reading the first book I was left with dozens of questions, beautiful characters (literally and figuratively), visions of exotic locations, and a new desire to own couture clothing. Diving into the second book was not my plan of attack. The Survivors are facing a potential war, and I wanted answers (and more Everett). I really took my time and soaked up this book.

The reader starts out meeting new characters that c ...more

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Jun 08, 2012 Mandi Kaye Ottaway rated it it was amazing

Shelves: favorites, bea-2012, bout-of-books-8-0

Sadie has come home.

And to be honest, I cringe inside for her because I understand why she doesn’t want to be there. But I also understand the loyalty that brought her back.

She loves her family, even she doesn’t want to be what they are.

Even when they hate her.

Somehow, they believe that she is responsible for the things have happened to them since she left the family. And all she wants to do is save them.

In Point of Origin, Sadie tries to find out where the Survivors came from. Who created them? ...more

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Aug 30, 2011 Gabby (What's Beyond Forks?) rated it really liked it

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There is so much that is involved in this series that you really need to read Book 1: The Survivors before starting Point of Origin. Sadie has been living life as a human for so long, it's hard for her to adapt back to the ways of The Survivors. Plus, now she has the Winter's with her, so making sure everyone gets along isn't easy. I'm not sure where her relationship with Everett is going. They say they love each other, but some of the things they do and say d ...more

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May 20, 2012 Amanda rated it really liked it

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Dare I say book 2 was better than the first! I actually woke up early to start this book, on a weekend, which just doesn’t happen! Was it worth it? Definitely!
Finishing the first book left me with two thoughts.
I need more Everett and MORE COLE!
Maybe one a little more than the other ;)
Book one introduced us to two very interesting and completely unforgettable characters. Each in the running for Sadie's heart. Gotta love a good love triangle! Book two definitely picks up in that department! LOVED ...more

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Jun 19, 2012 Kelly rated it really liked it

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I've been waiting for this sequel for quite a while. The first book was free through Kindle so I thought if I don't like it will be okay. I couldn't put it down. Somewhat Twilight like...about the current day supernatural and how they survive in our world. I know, not really something I usually go for but I was so amused and enthralled that I almost read the book beginning to end without a break. So on to the sequel and it had the same feel. Same epic-like story, same characters. I really like t ...more

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Jul 24, 2013 Detroitangel rated it liked it

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Pushing this one to a 3.5 STAR. There is a lot of story here and a lot of people to keep track of. Sadie is going through a lot of discovery. I understand that it isn't easy to change your outlook on life and religion, but I'm not sure if I classify her as troubled, selfish, or a tease? I seriously wanted to smack her when she went back to NY City again. She doesn't deserve anyone's loyalty, yet she has it.
Any who, I enjoy the mystery in all of this craziness and the connections to mythology he ...more

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Dec 31, 2012 Sarah rated it it was amazing

I must say that I LOVED Book 2! It blew me away. I was definitely left wanting more which wasn't really the case with Book 1. I know everyone wants more Everett and more Cole, but I want more Mark and Sam. I love Mark more and more every day, and Sam is very intriguing. I feel like there is a lot more than meets the eye with that one still. Of course, I could be very, very wrong. ...more

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Dec 31, 2013 Jennifer rated it it was ok

Most of this book seemed useless (especially the unnecessarily long descriptions of cars and clothes). But half way through some historical and interesting things started to happen. It picked up 70% of the way through when they finally went to Salem and looked into the witch trials. The ending left me wanting to read the third book.

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Jan 06, 2015 John rated it liked it

For the second book in the series, the adventure is packed into only a couple hundred pages. I'm disturbed by our heroine's constant returns to New York to revisit a secondary relationship at times when her primary relationship is either doing very well or needs time and attention. The revelations are intense page-turners. I'm on a cliff's edge, waiting to get my hands on book 3! ...more

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Sep 20, 2012 Jessie Wilkens rated it liked it

The protagonist has a unique voice, to say the least. It is the reason she is interesting because she is unpredictable, but it also makes her unrelatable. Maybe that is the intent. Looking forward to finishing the series to have all the questions answers. I feel I must reserve judgement until then.

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Mar 31, 2011 Julie rated it really liked it

Shelves: owned-books, read-2013

Loved it. Were is the next book?

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Apr 13, 2011 Joanna marked it as to-read

Read the preview of this book and I am loving it... Can't wait for it to come out! ...more

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Jun 16, 2011 Kasey Simmons marked it as to-read

Can't wait for this to hit the shelves. I enjoyed the first book so much and want the story to continue. ...more

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Jun 16, 2012 Crafty4life rated it it was amazing

I will be needing book #3 ASAP! What incredible story-telling talent this author has! Amazing book!

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Jun 18, 2012 Laura rated it it was amazing

Loved this book as much as the first. I can't wait for #3 to come out! ...more

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Jul 23, 2012 Kimberly Wolfe rated it it was amazing

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So much better than the first & can't wait for the 3rd ... What is with the final sentence in the snippet for the 3rd?! Ugh!! So exciting & maddening at the same time! :) ...more

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Dec 17, 2012 Alisa Ali rated it it was amazing

I can't get enough! The Survivors has me captivated. It’s such a different premise for a story … I enjoyed both books immensely and keenly await the next installment. ...more

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Amanda Havard thinks in stories. She writes books and songs, tells stories to people over coffee or in elaborate iPad apps, in short films or subtle photographs. Stories are her life. She is the author of the supernatural young adult series, The Survivors, a transmedia franchise with an online following of over 4.5 million readers. Originally from Dallas, Texas, she now lives in Nashville, Tenness ...more