Love Wins: At the Heart of Life's Big Questions
Millions of Christians have struggled with how to reconcile God's love and God's judgment: Has God created billions of people over thousands of years only to select a few to go to heaven and everyone else to suffer forever in hell? Is this acceptable to God? How is this "good news"?
Troubling questions--so troubling that many have lost their faith because of them. Others...more
Can a book be valuable, even if the writer is flawed in his editing process, his debating skills and his rhetorical approach?
Most people have predictable reaction to books they don't agree with. First, they don’t recommend that others read the book. Second, they find as many people as possible who also don’t agree with the book and mutually trash it. Third, they refuse to see any value in th ...more
After watching Bell's trailer for the book and watching the Nooma video style of the presentation, I was looking forward to seeing how he would flesh out his ideas about heaven and hell in the book. It was disappointing to find out that the first chapter of the book was nearly word-for-word the trailer that I had watched on the internet. The entire book is written li ...more
Rob Bell has his Mars Hill Church in my town. I know people that attend his church and love it there. I have heard so very much about this book, and thought the controversy was localized, but then I saw Mr. Bell’s idea of No Hell on the cover of Time magazine.
When I picked the book up and brought it to the register, the cashier glared at it, then at me. (GLARED, I tell you!) She then launched into a lecture of sort ...more
In this whole whirlwind that Rob Bell has stirred up, there is one group that has been conspicuously absent from the wide net of universalism that he and others have cast out.
One group that has been neglected.
And they cry out for their just defense.
I speak of course about Satan and the demons.
After all, if God is a God of love, and if he loves all of his creation, and if he wants to see it all brought into shalom, and ...more
Rob Bell tries to give us a new (but old) perspective on heaven, hell and God's love. To be honest, I have never really been a Bell fan. His style of seeking truth, while earnest, seems awfully fallible. When the Bible and your own experience have almost equal weight, TRUTH can be very ambiguous.
Things I agree with:
* God is love and his love is huge for everyone.
* Jesus came to give us right relationship with God.
* Having a right relationship with God means bri ...more
So I'd recently started John Shelby Spong's Eternal Life: A New Vision (will write about that one when I finish it!), but then...
B&N had this on display.
I sat in the store and read it all the way through.
1) This is VERY BOLD for a megachurch pastor. Rob Bell is an open-minded contemporary voice, which mainstream Christianity in this countray has needed for a long time. MAJOR KUDOS.
2) He is eloquent and writes in an easy-to-rea ...more
Before I get to the actual content of the book, I want to first talk about it in terms of quality. Rob Bell is an incredible communicator. Hearing him speak, regardless of how you feel about the content, is pretty incredible. Because of that I was surprised by how much I couldn't stand his writing style. Seriously, almost every pag ...more
Oddly, Bell insists that he’s not a universalist, yet his book indicates that he believes exactly what universalism does—that every human being will ultimately be saved, and that none will experience Hell. To teach this and yet claim you’re not a universalist (just because you disagree with some things that some universalists think) ...more
As far as style... The style of the book was at least unique, which is rare in a work like this.
I found the style to be.
Not only because of choppiness.
I'm not the biggest fan of christianity in the world. I grew up congregational and was told at 14 that children were too stupid to have opinions about god. I was evangelical for a couple years (yeah whole way talking in tongues and all, anyone want to talk about group theory). Eventually, for complicated reasons I decided I didn't believe in god.
For years I've been part of a religion forum, it u ...more
1. His complete lack of interaction with the holiness and justice of God renders his idea of the love of God deficient and impoverished. By focusing on the love of God, while excluding other attributes, Bell not only distorts the character of God, but he also distorts the love of God.
2. His historiography is tendentious and misleading at best, dishonest ...more
I put off reading this babble for a few years - but since so many liberal and Evangelical church-goers claim to love this crap: I better give it a look. And what the Hell did I find? Not the Biblical hell, that's for sure. I'm still not fully sure what Rob was insisting. Some hippy dribble about love and Buddhist enlightenment with a splash of reincarnation (or new birth cycle?). Makes me w ...more
After having just read C.S ...more
After the book came out, it seemed I had suddenly joined some sort of cabal that was eager to stamp out anythi ...more
As Bell starts the book and explains Heaven (nothing new if you read N.T. Wright's Surprised by Hope) and Hell (nothing new again if you have heard Rob Bell's sermons before.) However, what is new, is Bell talking about Hell as a place for correction, not for damnation, but instead for a chance for redemption. Believing that in the end God's love wins because God's love is stronger than any other thing in the universe, Bell believes tha ...more
He is right: Evangelical, Fundamentalist Christianity has its problems. But whereas it seems like he wants this book to reach out to those who are disenfranchised with main-stream Christianity, he's instead managed only to p***-off the fundamentalist block by stirring up all this controversy.
That's also a bit odd, because I didn't find that much of what he wrote to be uber-unorthodox, heretical, or controversial. He makes the point that Christianity ...more
The vitriol Bell received when Love Wins was released is due largely to the group think mentality that now permeates modern faith. The political and commercial ties to a culture that is both uneducated and underfed in the nuances of critical thinking have hamstrung the church's abil ...more
Donald Miller has a funny review here (scroll down a little). And in a spoof of Rob Bell's promotional video, some goofballs made a parody video.
I think that living my life in a way that happens to be consistent with ...more
First things first. I really don't care if Rob Bell is a universalist. If in fact he is (and given the nature of his present musings I would suggest that he is some variation of the sort, his protestations notwithstanding) and if in fact he is right then there will be multitudes of very happy ...more
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