“My wife has my back. More than the girlfriend. If I ever got in...

“My wife has my back. More than the girlfriend. If I ever got in trouble, my wife would be there– so I love her too. But it’s two different worlds. My wife and I fuck, but when my girlfriend is in front of me, it’s like: I need that now. We found each other at that perfect moment in time. Extensive track records: multiple partners, multiple situations. Then we came together to reach the zenith. I know my role. I can bring her to a certain point. And a big part of my satisfaction is getting her to that place. Every time is different, or we’ll go through phases: do one thing for a month, put it down, pick something else up. It’s never gotten old. For the longest time I didn’t know her husband’s name, or where he lived. But things got too blurred. A couple years back we got caught. It was my fault. I was drunk; wife got the phone. In therapy my wife was like: why don’t you do that stuff with me? It’s like, look, nobody checks every box. It’s impossible, impossible. If your wife checks five, and you got six other boxes, you’re going to check those boxes somewhere else. This whole monogamy thing is just a story. It’s made up. It doesn’t work. Look at nature, the males fuck different females, the females fuck different males. She was like: ‘But you took a vow.’ And I do feel bad. I’m sorry to disappoint her. But it’s like, you knew this. You can’t be so naïve that you think all the sudden the leopard is going to change his spots. When we first got together, I was cheating on the girl I was with.”