ANd so it goes.

Was reading an article on Climate Change. It wasn't the best one, and doesn't seem to talk about deaths outside of air pollution (which really muddies the issues), but nevermind that. I've kinda disconnected from the internet and moved away from the arguments because it seemed like it was many of the same arguments over and over. 
And what do I see in the comments are the same faulty arguments over and over. [1]
It gives fuel for my view that the truth doesn't win out, but the loud ones do. 
Now, the likes of Krugman have called these "zombie" ideas [1], in that you kill them with facts but they keep coming back from the dead. 
But, like I said, this ignores the reason behind them. They haven't been killed (maybe for a few people actually using reason, like me) but are there to mark a tribe and to  out shout people. You plant these ideas enough and sooner or later you change minds enough. 
So propaganda, essentially. Sown by witting or unwitting agents. 


[1] I heard and believed many of these in the 90s, but now? Come on. They include: scientists lying for that sweet grant money, you can't predict weather 10 days out so you can't do so 100 years out, ice age cycles, sun spots, UN communist plot to steal money, and many other such hits.

[2] He calls another idea cockroaches, in that you stomp out one version of this idea and another one comes out. 
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