avi-burton-writing:
bae-in-maine:
justluckyiguess:
sapphicauthor:
sapphicauthor:
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hey, writers who aren’t jewish or rroma! if you’re going to use the Holocaust in your writing in any way, shape, or form (setting, imagery, simile, etc.), consider this:
don’t.
putting this here because although i hope none of you would do this honestly nothing suprises me anymore. just don’t.
@rose-in-a-fisted-glove uh can you maybe not use the word collaborators when you mean “people who orchestrated and committed a genocide”
it’s really gross. this isn’t “people working on a fun project together” this is a horrific thing that happened that many many Germans were an active or passive part of.
@sapphicauthor I would pose a question. Nazis Imprisoned both Catholics and Homosexuals, and are often points of view left out. What about them?
Telling someone that they can’t write about a historical event, because they or their ancestors weren’t part of the historical event is absolute bullshit.
Authors and other artists do this all the time, and most manage to do it well. While I agree it is wrong for someone of privilege to talk over a minority about something that directly impacts the minority, that isn’t the same as saying that you can’t write about the Holocaust because you aren’t Jewish or about slavery because you aren’t Black, or any other historical event.
see, @bae-in-maine, your reply is an excellent example of my point. people who aren’t jewish or rromani shouldn’t write about the Holocaust because to you guys it’s just a “historical event” while to us it’s a complex multigenerational trauma, not to mention a literal slaughter. you don’t and will never have or understand the perspective on it that we do, and while that’s fine, it’s not right imo to pretend that it’s all the same.
you are a person of privilege talking over a minority (that’s me, a jewish person. hi) about something that directly impacts the minority. (it was less than a hundred years ago, by the way. my great-aunts and uncles were killed, by the way. people still use the Shoah to invalidate Jews and perpetuate antisemitism, by the way.)
it’s not “gatekeeping”, it’s being respectful of other culture’s trauma.
I’m interested to understand; how is writing during a certain time period or during a historical event such as WWII or the Holocaust talking over a minority? I can see how there are certainly ways of exploiting this narrative, like writing from the perspective of a person in an internment camp and having that just be, I don’t know, background to the actual story. I can definitely see how that would be not okay. I can definitely understand if someone were to write a book with a story like Night by Elie Wiesel only they were never there and they just made it up, that would be down right f’ed up.
But are you also saying that any writing that takes place during the 30s and 40s in an effected area (America, Europe, ect.) is also off limits in your opinion? Because it would be very difficult to write about a 1930s Frenchmen and not ever mention WWII or the holocaust. It wouldn’t make sense to write from the perspective of an American soldier in WWII who fought in Europe and never mention the holocaust. While all of these perspectives need to be treated carefully and with mindfulness towards those that the holocaust affected, would you say they are completely off limits because they have something to do with the holocaust?
