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David Joy

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David Joy is the author of the Edgar nominated novel Where All Light Tends to Go (Putnam, 2015), as well as the novels The Weight Of This World (Putnam, 2017), The Line That Held Us (Putnam, 2018), and When These Mountains Burn (Putnam, 2020). His memoir, Growing Gills: A Fly Fisherman's Journey (Bright Mountain Books, 2011), was a finalist for the Reed Environmental Writing Award and the Ragan Old North State Award for Creative Nonfiction. His latest stories and essays have appeared in The New York Times Magazine, Garden & Gun, and The Bitter Southerner. He is the recipient of an artist fellowship from the North Carolina Arts Council. His work is represented by Julia Kenny of Dunow, Carlson & Lerner Literary Agency. He lives in Jackson Cou ...more

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Hey David, I went to your reading for a class at WCU last week, and I ended up really enjoying it. I now have a desire to read some literature from Western NC, but after finishing your book, I won't know where to look next. Could you suggest some author with books set in the area that I should read?

David Joy If you enjoy that type of darker story I'd suggest reading all of Ron Rash's work, particularly the short story collections (Chemistry, Burning Bright…moreIf you enjoy that type of darker story I'd suggest reading all of Ron Rash's work, particularly the short story collections (Chemistry, Burning Bright, Nothing Gold Can Stay), though I really like his novels as well, my favorite being The World Made Straight. If that's the type of story you're into, you might want to broaden to the rest of the South and read Larry Brown, William Gay, Barry Hannah, and Harry Crews, who I consider the godfathers of what I'm trying to do, their own writing being rooted in Faulkner and O'Connor and even McCarthy.

If you're wanting to stay within the North Carolina mountains, Charles Frazier and Wayne Caldwell are really great, but if we can open the conversation up to all of Appalachia the list gets really big. I love Silas House, especially his novel A Parchment of Leaves. As far as women, read Lee Smith and Darnell Arnoult and Pamela Duncan and Sharyn McCrumb.

There are a lot of really great young writers too, writers like Mark Powell and Charles Dodd White and Denton Loving and Sheldon Lee Compton. My favorite novel this year has been Robert Gipe's Trampoline, which is set in the Kentucky coal fields. There are just loads and loads of really talented writers in this region.

Also check out some anthologies like Degrees of Elevation, which collects a lot of these writers, with a new installment of that anthology series coming out this summer called Appalachia Now. There are also some really great journals like Still or Drafthorse or Appalachian Heritage that showcase a lot of emerging talent in the region. These journals are online, for the most part, and free to read.

If you're still reading this then that ought to keep your bedside table stacked up for a while. Hope that helps.(less)

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I enjoyed your book Where all Light Tends to Go. I am confused, however, by the last sentences. "That restful time was near now, and I finally understood that there'd never been any difference between here or there." "Only the middle ground of this wicked world mattered, the vast gap that stretched between, and those who were born with enough grit to brave it. Will you please explain? Many thanks.

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This answer contains spoilers… (view spoiler)[ I'm typically not one to give definitive explanations as I think that's one of the most beautiful things about books, that individual illumination and…more I'm typically not one to give definitive explanations as I think that's one of the most beautiful things about books, that individual illumination and self discovery. But I think in this case those lines are pivotal in understanding what I wanted that final scene and final image to do, so here goes...

I think that when we look at points in a person's life, two major points are current location and destination, where are we right now and where do we want to go. Jacob has always been someone tied to the life he was born into. For his entire life, he's been immobilized by circumstance. He's very cognizant of this and he can easily see where he is because of who he is--going all the way back to that opening paragraph, "I was a McNeely and in this part of Appalachia that meant something."--just as he can see where he would go if he could be anything he wanted. So we've got two points: here and there. Again, going back to the beginning, Jacob has always been aware that it's his own fears and insecurities that have kept him tied to that place and that life (from Chapter One): "What was disappointing about that school, my life, and this whole fucking place was that I'd let it beat me. I'd let what I was born into control what I'd become. Mama snorted crystal, Daddy sold it to her, and I'd never had the balls to leave." In the words of Jacob, "That was [his] life in a nutshell."

So at the end of the novel, it's that same central conflict. Jacob can see where he is and where he wants to go. He has two choices. He can stay in that house and let the officers take him and let the world once again decide what his life will become. Or, for once, he can gather the strength and courage to make that decision for himself. That's what he does. He walks into the gunfire because leaving that wicked world behind seems braver than bearing it.

Ultimately what I'm trying to say is that the same truth holds for all of us. Each of us have a current location and a destination. The only difference between those two points is the space between and yet so many stay shackled to exactly where they've been their entire lives because they're too goddamned scared to take a chance. We fear the middle ground between those two points. We fear change and so we settle for the safety and security of staying put. It takes an act of bravery to walk into that "vast gap" where we don't know what will happen. It takes an act of bravery to know exactly what you want and to walk fearlessly into the in-between with a confidence and pride that nothing can stop you but yourself. Jacob does just that. And as sad as that ending may be, as misdirected as he may have been in choosing that destination, I think there's a lot to be learned in how fearless he was in that moment.(less) (hide spoiler)]

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	Where All Light Tends to Go 3.74 avg rating — 6,225 ratings — published 2015 — 14 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	The Line That Held Us 3.72 avg rating — 4,718 ratings — published 2018 — 8 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	The Weight of This World 3.95 avg rating — 1,632 ratings — published 2017 — 8 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	When These Mountains Burn 4.24 avg rating — 631 ratings — published 2020 — 5 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	Gather at the River: Twenty-Five Authors on Fishing by David Joy (Goodreads Author) (Editor), Eric Rickstad (Goodreads Author) (Editor/Contributor), Taylor Brown (Goodreads Author) (Contributor) 4.26 avg rating — 38 ratings — 2 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	Growing Gills: A Fly Fisherman's Journey by David Joy (Goodreads Author), Michael Polomik (Illustrator) 4.39 avg rating — 28 ratings — published 2011 — 3 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	Là où les lumières se perdent extrait by David Joy (Goodreads Author), Fabrice Pointeau (Translator) it was amazing 5.00 avg rating — 1 rating	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
	Appalachia Now by Charles Dodd White (Goodreads Author) (Editor), Larry Smith (Editor), Jacinda Townsend (Contributor) 4.08 avg rating — 76 ratings — published 2015 — 2 editions	Error rating book. Refresh and try again. Rate this book Clear rating 1 of 5 stars 2 of 5 stars 3 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars

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“That kind of love wasn’t for anyone outside the two of them. It was private and silent, sufficient as grace.”
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“For as tough as the men were in these mountains, the women had always been stone. They were used to loss, accustomed to never having enough. They were fit for the harshness of this world.”
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“They lay silently. She was staring at something across the room. She was making him feel uncomfortable. 'It wouldn't work. It's the attraction of opposites,' he said.

We're not opposites.'

I don't mean just you and me. Women fall in love when they get to know you. Men are just the opposite. When they finally know you they're ready to leave.”
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“Some souls aren't worth saving, I thought. There're some souls that even the devil wants no part of.”
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“There was a place where all light tends to go, and I reckon that was heaven.”
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“Light never shined on a man like me and that was certain. In a lot of ways, that made men like Daddy the lucky ones to have only ever known the darkness. Knowing only darkness, a man doesn't have to get his heart broken in search of the light. I envied him for that.”
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“Only the middle ground of this wicked world mattered, the vast gap that stretched between, and those who were born with enough grit to brave it.”
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