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message 1: by Archer (new)

Archer AND

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message 2: by Archer (new)

Archer And breathe... I feel better now.


message 3: by Belle (new)

Belle Literally brilliant :)


message 4: by Archer (new)

Archer Thank you


message 5: by Skyla (new)

Skyla *applauds* Brilliant. Simply brilliant.


message 6: by Lissa (new)

Lissa Funny!

I used to always get nonplussed and nonchalant confused. Then Friends educated me on the difference.

IRREGARDLESS IS NOT A WORD!


Mel (who is deeply in love with Hal) I used to think irregardless was a word for an embarrassingly long time. But then I got a brain.

They should have both these posters on every English classroom wall in the world. It would do the teachers a favour, for sure. Some of my friends, who are about 17/18, still make about half of these mistakes. It's crazeh.


message 8: by Wigs (new)

Wigs the worst part is when it's actually in a published book that you see these issues. it drives me insane because you think that professional editors would catch these sort of things.


message 9: by Archer (new)

Archer Mel (who is deeply in love with herself) wrote: "I used to think irregardless was a word for an embarrassingly long time. But then I got a brain.

They should have both these posters on every English classroom wall in the world. It would do the t..."


I have friends in their 30s who still make these mistakes. And people who email me daily. It makes me headdesk... hard.


message 10: by Archer (new)

Archer Wigs wrote: "the worst part is when it's actually in a published book that you see these issues. it drives me insane because you think that professional editors would catch these sort of things."

And expect them to actually do some work?


message 11: by Wigs (new)

Wigs Does it make me a snob that it's one of my dealbreakers for dating?


Mel (who is deeply in love with Hal) Maybe you should send these two posters to them nonchalantly...think they'd get the hint?


message 13: by Manny (last edited Jul 18, 2012 07:39am) (new)

Manny But "affect" is also a noun, as in "lacking in affect"? And you can use apostrophes to form plurals in an expression like "mind your P's and Q's".


message 14: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Wigs wrote: "Does it make me a snob that it's one of my dealbreakers for dating?"

If you're a snob so am I. It drives my mental. I tried internet dating and pretty much every single person who messaged me made one of these mistakes and the stupid thing is they were like "I hat it when peeps use the wrong words 2. Their stupid."


message 15: by Wigs (last edited Jul 18, 2012 07:53am) (new)

Wigs Yes exactly. If I have to constantly correct you, we're not meant to be dating.


message 16: by MLE (new)

MLE Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "Wigs wrote: "Does it make me a snob that it's one of my dealbreakers for dating?"

If you're a snob so am I. It drives my mental. I tried internet dating and pretty much every single person who mes..."


Count me among the snobs. I tried internet dating for a time, and between the grammar mistakes in the profiles, and in the replies I decided it was not for me. Well, that and the fact that I was mostly messaged by men more than twice my age when I had stated very clearly, and nicely in my profile that I wasn't interested in older men. I even had one guy send me a message about what a mistake I was making turning him down, and how much we had in common. He was in his 50's, and I was in my mid-20's at the time. I don't know what he thought that would accomplish, but it was not me melting, and deciding that he was right.


message 17: by Ceilidh (new)

Ceilidh Oh mine is always Less and Few, makes me crazy. Also, you should check out The Oatmeal for my favorite grammar assistance. Hee!


message 18: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Emily wrote: "Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "Wigs wrote: "Does it make me a snob that it's one of my dealbreakers for dating?"

If you're a snob so am I. It drives my mental. I tried internet d..."


Yeah I've had the same thing happen. I had someone message me and want to meet up to discuss Doctor Who...he was 75...I'm 25...I like slightly older people but not 50 years...more like 2-9 years older than me. And that goes for men and women.


message 19: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Wigs wrote: "Yes exactly. If I have to constantly correct you, we're not meant to be dating."

Agreed.


message 20: by Mina^_^ (new)

Mina^_^ #6 gets me angry every time someone misuses those.


message 21: by HJ (new)

HJ I love all of these. Spectacular! Thanks for posting for those of us who are like-minded. :)


message 22: by MLE (new)

MLE Makes me think of all the Mr. Period comics Penny Arcade did. Those are some of my favorites ever.


message 23: by Elspeth (new)

Elspeth I simly can't stand when people use the term "very unique".


message 24: by Tina A (new)

Tina A I love this list! Mine are naval and navel and when someone says "the one and only". EVERYONE is the one and only them! There are no "two and only", the "one" is understood and doesn't need saying!


message 25: by Tina A (last edited Jul 18, 2012 08:27am) (new)

Tina A Lissa wrote: "Funny!

I used to always get nonplussed and nonchalant confused. Then Friends educated me on the difference.

IRREGARDLESS IS NOT A WORD!"


I have been trying to tell my husband that for 27 years!


message 26: by Angela (new)

Angela Excellent. I particularly love the second one as I normally have to restrain myself from swearing when explaining the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.

A friend with whom I went to university still gets those mixed up and it pisses me off so so much. He's 29 and should know better! Sad part is, we did an English Literature degree.


message 27: by Eliza (new)

Eliza Brand I had a supervisor who would say "Irregardlessly." It drove me crazy, every time she said it.


Lynsey (The Demon Librarian) LOL! Too funny.

I've seen that top one about "I couldn't care less" a few times. When I first heard it on an audiobook I thought the narrator had read it wrong. It makes no sense to say you could care less. I feel like saying well... go on then! Care a bit less, whydonchya!


message 29: by Skyla (last edited Jul 18, 2012 08:37am) (new)

Skyla I thought of another one. When you have a name that ends with an s (say Lukas) and people do this:

Lukas's shoes were red.

It should be:

Lukas' shoes were red.

I see this in books a lot and in emails from people.


Mel (who is deeply in love with Hal) Actually, this last one has been debated. My teachers were unsure themselves when I asked them last year, and said either one was acceptable.

(I prefer the bold version, too, though.)


message 31: by Phoebe (new)

Phoebe Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "I thought of another one. When you have a name that ends with an s (say Lukas) and people do this:

Lukas's shoes were red.

It should be:

Lukas' shoes were red.

I see this in books a lot and in ..."


That one actually depends on the style guide you're using. Here's a good explanation. Most style guides make exceptions for words that make iz sounds on the end, though (famously, "Jesus'" is usually their noted exception).


message 32: by Skyla (new)

Skyla I have always been taught that if a word ends in an s and you want to make it possessive you don't add another "s" just the apostrophe. I guess you learn something new every day.

Also Octopus is Octopi, mouse is mice, louse is lice, moose is moose, when plural not octopuses, mouses, louses (actually that one kind of works in another context, like not the animal but if you call someone a louse), and mooses.


message 33: by Christina (new)

Christina Wilder Phoebe wrote: "Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "I thought of another one. When you have a name that ends with an s (say Lukas) and people do this:

Lukas's shoes were red.

It should be:

Lukas' s..."


I saw something similar in Eats, Shoots, and Leaves. It seems either way works.

To me, this looks correct:

"The Jones' car was filled with pudding."

But to many others, it does not.

I don't have a problem with "The Jones's car was filled with pudding" either, though.


message 34: by Phoebe (new)

Phoebe Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherwise, they can go screw.)


Lynsey (The Demon Librarian) Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherwise, they can go screw.)"


What are serial commas please?


message 36: by Phoebe (new)

Phoebe Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherwise, they can go screw.)"

Wha..."


They're also called Oxford commas. They're the final comma right before the "and" in a list of three items or more: "I went to the store and bought bananas, milk, and coffee." The sentence is identical if you say "I went to the store and bought bananas, milk and coffee." You get into clarity issues when it's a sentence like "The graduation speaker told a riveting story about his father, a drug addict, and an ex-convict." If you leave out the serial comma there, it sounds like "a drug addict and an ex-convict" are just descriptors for the father.


message 37: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Christina wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "I thought of another one. When you have a name that ends with an s (say Lukas) and people do this:

Lukas's shoes were red.

It shoul..."


It annoys my eyes when I see the s's I keep think someone misspelled the word or mistyped.

I love Eats, Shoots, and Leaves it always makes me laugh that the Panda had a gun.


Lynsey (The Demon Librarian) Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherwise, they can g..."


Ohhh. Yes I have come across that before. I just didn't know it was called a serial comma. In fact, someone on a different forum once shared this picture:



Which illustrates the difference nicely :)


message 39: by Phoebe (new)

Phoebe Ha! Love it!


message 40: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherw..."


Best picture ever.


message 41: by Robert (last edited Jul 18, 2012 09:11am) (new)

Robert To me, that "Oxford comma" sentence is addressed to "jfk" whereas without it "jfk" is a member of the list...


message 42: by MLE (new)

MLE Love it, stripper Stalin makes me smile for some reason. I think i9t's the way he's holding his hands.


message 43: by Christina (new)

Christina Wilder Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for clarity. Otherw..."


Genius!

I don't mind the Oxford comma. What I DO mind is when people get comma-happy.

As in:

"Jeff waited behind the car, barely breathing, hoping against hope that Steve wasn't inside, trying desperately to concentrate on the job at hand, and trying not to imagine Steve being held against his will."

Ugh. Just, ugh. My editor would cry.


message 44: by Wigs (last edited Jul 18, 2012 09:38am) (new)

Wigs Christina wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: Lukas's shoes were red.

It should be:

Lukas' s..."

I saw something similar in Eats, Shoots, and Leaves. It seems either way works.

To me, this looks correct:

"The Jones' car was filled with pudding."


Actually, I think it has to do with possessive vs plural possessive.

The Jones' are a collective. Lukas is only one person. I think Lukas's can be correct and then Jones' is correct. I believe Jones's is not correct unless it is only one Jones, as in say, Mr Jones's something.


message 45: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Christina wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except for when needed for ..."


Is that from something or did you make it up? Because I am intrigued to read whatever it is =)


message 46: by Christina (last edited Jul 18, 2012 09:57am) (new)

Christina Wilder Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "Christina wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I still think serial commas can go screw. Except fo..."


I just made it up on the spot. ;)

Since you're so awesome, I can write up a short story around it and post it here (if you want, because I am made of magic.)


message 47: by [deleted user] (new)

affect is a verb and effect is a noun, except when it's the other way around and you effect an affect. :D


Elizabeth(The Book Whisperer) LOL! I always tell people the first one on the list. It drives me crazy when people do that! I have even heard people do it in movies and t.v.!


message 49: by Skyla (new)

Skyla Christina wrote: "Skyla (Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books) wrote: "Christina wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Lynsey wrote: "Phoebe wrote: "Yeah, I was taught that way too. Also to never use serial commas.

(I ..."


Do it my magical awesome friend =)


message 50: by LethalLovely~I'll Be Your River (last edited Jul 18, 2012 07:39pm) (new)

LethalLovely~I'll Be Your River I'm an English undergrad and I still confuse "It's" & "Its" from time to time. Oh, the shame!


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