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I'm picking this up from the library tomorrow and I'll be starting it next, hopefully tomorrow, the 2nd.
May 01, 2012 09:49AM
The Final Leap: Suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge

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Lisa Vegan is on page 212 of 322
Pages 207 & 206 almost convinced me, but not quite. Interesting book though, and I'm looking forward to finishing it, probably tomorrow.
May 06, 2012 11:26AM
The Final Leap: Suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge


Lisa Vegan
Lisa Vegan is on page 185 of 322
Many voices/opinions/info would make this a stronger book, but it's very readable and interesting.
May 06, 2012 12:51AM
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Lisa Vegan
Lisa Vegan is on page 80 of 322
Knew I'd most likely disagree with the author but didn't expect to feel the rage I feel. Self-selection bias and all sorts of other biases. Efforts should go to mental health programs of various sorts. Trying to (mostly unsuccessfully) prevent 20 suicides annually when there are probably 1,000 suicides annually in the SFBA. (I"m going to check with some agencies on the stats) is infuriating me.
May 03, 2012 10:08PM
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Lisa Vegan
Lisa Vegan is on page 26 of 322
Packs quite a punch. Several names I know/remember. I still think he's not going to sway me re the net, but I'll see.
May 02, 2012 02:28PM
The Final Leap: Suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge


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Meaghan I'm glad you are reading it, though we argued about it.

As I think I told you, I've got dozens of bridge jumpers listed on my missing persons site, whose bodies were never found. It's a tricky situation, because unless someone saw them fall, whose to say they didn't deliberately leave their stuff on the bridge and then go running off to Brazil to start a new life or something.


Lisa Vegan Yes, I know. I live 5 minutes from the bridge, and know people who've committed suicide by jumping off it and also know (have met) a couple survivors. And frequently see "possibles" in the news.

We might continue to argue about it, but I'm willing to read this book with a completely open mind.


Meaghan Given that you have close to 5500 books listed as "to-read" I'm surprised you got to this so soon. Was it our disagreement that prompted you to look for it, or the fact that you live in SF, or did you just see it on the library shelf?

I saw it in my library at the "new non-fiction" display. It turns out my library actually made it available for check-out a month early. It was not supposed to be officially released until April and I got it in March. I don't suppose anyone would have cared much if they found out though.


Lisa Vegan Well, I found out about it because of you, but I'm getting to it because I have strong interest in the subject, and in San Francisco and GG Bridge too. This year is the 75th anniversary of the GG Bridge, so it's in the news a lot more. Unfortunately, it may cause more people to commit suicide using the bridge as their method.


Meaghan The publishers might have timed it so the book was released around the 75th anniversary. I have another book, about the death penalty, that was released on the 100th anniversary of the first use of the electric chair.


Lisa Vegan Oh, I have NO doubt that is the case.


Lisa Vegan Also, I think the net is on the ballot this year, again. Another reason.


Meaghan The board already voted in favor of a net, by a wide margin -- something like 12 to 2. I suppose now they have to fund it.

A net would be expensive but eventually pay for itself. As the book points out, even if you discount all the lives lost and the money those people would have earned and so on, it still costs thousands of dollars in public money whenever someone jumps off the bridge. The Coast Guard has to go looking for the body (often it takes only a few minutes to be found, but sometimes much longer), and then it has to be taken to the morgue and autopsied and everything, and this all takes time and money. I can't imagine many Coast Guard members want to be assigned to Golden Gate Bridge duty. It's got to be an emotionally exhausting task.


Lisa Vegan Yes, as I think I've said, cost is not a factor for why I'm not enthusiastic about it. Yes, they have to fund it. It's hard to get most things funded these days, even in liberal San Francisco and Marin counties.


Meaghan I have heard of California's budget problems. My home state of Ohio has flat and boring landscape and is full of Bible-thumping homophobic intolerant wingnuts, but economically we're doing better than most of the rest of the country right now. Luck of the draw, I guess.


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Lisa Vegan Yes, California is in big financial trouble. San Francisco too. I would guess Marin county is doing relatively okay but not as well as during many past years.


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