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Burning question: how does a prehistoric woman get morbidly obese? Why would she not have multitudes of men swarming after her?
Apr 03, 2012 08:42AM
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"Her exotic accent and her uncanny ability to mimic the sounds of animals added an interesting element to her story." We gotta squeeze at least ONE MORE accent mention before the end!!
Apr 10, 2012 06:07PM
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Hot damn, Auel saved the best quotes for the end: “I have thought about it for a long time…life begins when a man puts his member inside a woman, into the place that a baby comes from and leaves his essence.”
Apr 10, 2012 04:28PM
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Truth or bullshit, you be the judge: “She had already forgotten whatever discomfort she had felt giving birth to Jonayla.” Only a couple days after Jonayla's birth???
Apr 10, 2012 04:25PM
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“I’ve named our daughter, Jonayla, after both you and me, Jondalar, because she came from both of us. She is your daughter too.” As stupid as this name is, it STILL is better than Twilight's "Renesmee".
Apr 10, 2012 04:15PM
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After Ayla, in labor, analyzes the tea Zelandani gives her: “For just an instance, Zelandani felt a retort come to her mind, a sarcastic, ‘Well, do you approve?’ but she caught herself. And then was surprised she even thought of it.” The characters are positively ACHING to be treated like normal people. They are BEGGING to be released from Mary Sueism.
Apr 10, 2012 03:42PM
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My God...95% of this novel occurs over like 2 weeks, while the last 5% skips 5 months into the future to the birth of Ayla's hellspawn. I almost wonder why bother?
Apr 10, 2012 03:28PM
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What has Marona done that has been cold and undeserving? Supposedly, she learned her EVUL ways from her mom, but nothing Marona has done in this book has been EVUL or wicked. In fact, she's the ONLY character that makes any sense. Oh, and Ayla ought to STFU about Brukaval and his hatred of the Clan, else she is ASKING for him to yell at her.
Apr 10, 2012 12:36PM
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"She had become Ayla of the Zelandani and Jondalar's mate, and that came first." Because we ALL know, a woman is nothing without a man, even in a supposedly equal rights prehistoric society.
Apr 10, 2012 09:48AM
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"Instead they sympathized with the Wolf, attributing to him the feelings they would have experienced in a similar situation." "They" are NOT Ayla, who already humanizes Wolf. "They" are the Zelandani. YES, ALL the Zelandani, who just a few days ago, were scared sh!tless of the Wolf, are now SO SAD because he lost his mate. *headdesk*
Apr 10, 2012 09:37AM
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Time for Ayla to brag about inventing stitches for sewing wounds. Damn Wolf. I almost wish that thing would die, but not as much as I want Ayla and Jondalar to die horrible deaths. (How long is this book???)
Apr 10, 2012 09:26AM
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message 1: by Jane (new)

Jane See I also think whatsername would be popular. Her huge breasts and belly would indicate fruitfulness and prosperity and the guys would be all over her. Auel could have at least done that, instead of making her fatness a reason for her no longer being a threat to Ayla! Considering she's a lady of size herself...


Crystal Starr Light Jane wrote: "See I also think whatsername would be popular. Her huge breasts and belly would indicate fruitfulness and prosperity and the guys would be all over her. Auel could have at least done that, instead ..."

I am so glad that I am not the only person who thinks this way!! If this culture admires the fullness of womanhood, then the logical conclusion (to me) is that Zolena should be unable to keep the men away from her. They should be on her like dung beetles to a cow pie. I mean, it would actually be interesting if Jondalar struggled with his changing feelings for Zolena and how this relates to his relationship to Ayla.

I guess Ayla is more wish-fulfillment...not that I really thought Ayla was anything but...


message 3: by Isis (last edited Apr 04, 2012 01:46PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis I'm not sure how that would happen, as the Palaeolithic lifestyle was highly demanding, and in Ice Age Europe at least it'd be like an Arctic explorer scenario - yes, the need to eat a lot more meat and fat, but burning off those stores at an incredible rate - today's modern "recommended daily calorie intake" are vastly reduced due to our sedentary lifestyle.

I am torn between wanting to say that such a woman would be highly attractive and saying that conversely she would not be. Let me explain. Her fullness and size would be attractive - it would be rare for anyone to achieve such a figure due to the hardships of Palaeolithic living, and anyone that did demonstrates that they live a life free from such hardship and can command wealth and resources, to not have to struggle to survive to such a point where they achieved that figure - this would denote extraordinary prosperity, and raise her status and attractiveness. (Aside: you may have heard stories about how in poor African countries young girls are deliberately force fed to achieve such a size, because it denotes such prosperity and status). Also the Palaeolothic "venuses" do tend to depict fuller figured women, and if they are in any way signifiying the ideal, it may be plausible to say that this would have been attractive. However, I have thought of a flip side to this, which is that such a person, at a certain point, would no longer be as fit as everyone else, no longer able to contribute to communal survival to such a degree as everyone else, and fitness was essential to gaining the food needed for survival - that trait would conversely make such a person unattractive. So it would have to depend on there being a willingness by kin or the rest of the band to support such an individual. Perhaps her mere presence brings status and denotes the band's prosperity, or perhaps her prosperous size is balanced against the disadvantage of not being able to contribute as much if she has some other status such as shamaness or some such, in which case she would be overall considered attractive, though the down side would be recognised too.


Crystal Starr Light Isis wrote: "I'm not sure how that would happen, as the Palaeolithic lifestyle was highly demanding, and in Ice Age Europe at least it'd be like an Arctic explorer scenario - yes, the need to eat a lot more mea..."

This is very interesting! I kinda wondered the same thing...when would a full-figured woman go from being a desirable quality to being a burden. I can imagine that if Zolena were that large that the 9th cave may find her to be a burden...she better be a damn good "First Woman"!!


message 5: by Isis (last edited Apr 04, 2012 02:29PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis I think overall it would have been considered very attractive - but it would have a manifest balancing disadvantage. If the band fell upon hard times, the person would not be fit enough, or as fit, to help contribute... but they would last longer too because they'd have more reserves to draw upon to last through the sapping winter. Overall I definitely think more of an attraction than a burden.


message 6: by Jane (new)

Jane In book 6 Zolena is able to keep up with the rest on their travels where needed, so she couldn't have been absolutely enormous. Just TOO FAT for Mr. Lover Lover to ever be interested in her again, because he's as shallow as a saucer.


message 7: by Isis (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis Yeah, but only because of Ayla's handy inventing skills... she can't keep up on her own without that.


message 8: by Jane (new)

Jane I thought I remembered her having to do some walking... but yes Ayla of course helps her out with her brilliant goddess brain.


message 9: by Isis (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis I think she does do a bit of walking about, but then her character says something like its so taxing on her and she can't do it anymore, and then Ayla waves her magic wand and solves everything, as per usual.


Crystal Starr Light Isis wrote: "I think she does do a bit of walking about, but then her character says something like its so taxing on her and she can't do it anymore, and then Ayla waves her magic wand and solves everything, as..."

Why am I not surprised? I'll bet Ayla also makes the sun rise and the seasons change.


message 11: by Isis (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis Ayla is single-handedly responsible for the destruction of the Earth and the vileness of the Human race. And no, that is not a joke, it's in the sixth book.


Crystal Starr Light Isis wrote: "Ayla is single-handedly responsible for the destruction of the Earth and the vileness of the Human race. And no, that is not a joke, it's in the sixth book."

*jaw drops*

Why would an author that so obviously favors her character do something like that? Is that an attempt to make Ayla not a Mary Sue?


message 13: by Isis (new) - rated it 1 star

Isis Apparently human genius and human progress are wholesale BAD, no wiggle room. And since Ayla is the virtual Einstein of her times, all her good work is also destined to bring about apocalypse. Apparently.


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