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message 1: by Michael
07/15/2008 06:15PM

1021858 In episode 9 of the Podcast (landing on 7.16.08) Ann and I confess our book-buying shame. We can't stop buying knitting books (Ann), graphic design books (me) and cookbooks (both of us) even though we already have way too many and use only a handful, if any. So we ask, what category do you obsessively acquire, but not necessarily use?

Also, we need to come up with a name for this affliction/malady/obsession... ideas? We encourage ideas from everyone, but yes, Stephen, we're expecting something great from you!

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message 2: by Ron
07/16/2008 06:00AM

294611 Biblomania seems the most exact term for uncontrolable book buying but it isn't sexy. May I suggest a latinate term like Libres Grabbus? My vice, and my sole vice, is old mysteries, especially those published by Gold Medal in the 50's and 60's. I have more mysteries than I could ever read and I still pick up a handful every week.

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message 3: by Summer
07/16/2008 06:44AM

227351 Anything consisting of pages between covers. I am not a discriminating book buyer any more than I am a picky reader. If it strikes my fancy, in the cart it goes.

I do have several similar gardening books, but I manage to use all of them. I especially like the ones that are specific to the area I live in.

Ann, I tend to buy those little pattern books that are in the yarn section. What am I missing?

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message 4: by Stephen
07/16/2008 07:09AM

1175613 lol. Oh, the pressure. I'll see if the muse strikes.

My (should-be) shameful book-buying obsession? The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan (RIP). I began this series when it rolled out in 1990, and haven't stopped since. That's 12 books of about 800 pages each. I guess I only have one more book left in the series before I need to find a new obsession.

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message 5: by Dottie (last edited 07/16/2008 08:10AM)
07/16/2008 08:09AM

336421 Hmmm -- there should be several which fit this, but I think I'm going to have to say the decor/lifestyle/food books with all the glossy and beautiful photos particularly focused on some faraway place such as Tuscany -- yep, I'm a Frances Mayes junkie, for one thing. But I have all sorts of these "home" books to dream over. This also includes cookbooks which are also art -- though I don't have that lovely Tuscany one yet I'm certain I will eventually succumb. Maybe it's a Hestia fixation in this case? I mean, I even have these kinds of books in Dutch!

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message 6: by JT
07/16/2008 08:39AM

1300107 I'm with Summer. If it's a book that strikes my fancy, I have to get it - even if it sits on the TBR shelves for months (sometimes years - yikes!!). Sometimes, I'll go on these kicks where I buy biographies or histories or classics or mysteries or whatever. But in the end, the main thing is that it is that miracle of paper - the book - that I can't resist!

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message 7: by Susanne
07/16/2008 09:09AM

1194018 I think "BIBLIOPHILIC BINGER" might fit that description.....

I'm also very eclectic in the books I pick up, but if I had to choose what I end reading the most often, it would be Historical Fiction.

Susanne

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message 8: by Stephen
07/16/2008 11:56AM

1175613 How about "Whybrary"? as in "Why did I get that 50th cookbook?"

oh, and those books you have to have, but feel somewhat sheepish about acquiring? that's your "UnderCover Collection"

hmm. . .clearly I'm into puns today.

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message 9: by Ann
07/16/2008 02:30PM

406595 LOL! I think this is my favorite thread so far!

Dottie, I do confess to having cookbooks in a language I cannot read (Turkish).

Summer: Check out the knitting books in your general bookstore someday -- the larger stores tend to carry more as a rule, but a smaller store with a devoted knitting clientele may also have a great selection. check out the book called 'Victorian Lace Today' ... sheer yarn pornography, and patterns that require knitting skills I will never acquire.

Stephen - Have you read George RR Martin? He may be a worthy obsession after Robert Jordan...

JT - I have a thing about paper, too, whether it's bound into a book or not. I thought I was a weird kid because I loved shopping for school supplies ... I've since learned that I'm not alone in that.

Ron, Susanne and Stephen -- your linguistic skills astound me. Love them all ... and "Whybrary?", can be used for so many things...

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message 10: by Dottie (last edited 07/16/2008 05:02PM)
07/16/2008 05:01PM

336421 Ann, I think Undercover Collections can be just as versatile though Whybrary struck a chord with me. But -- Undercover Collections -- think all those 30's and 40's and whenever bodice ripper romances or the sleazy covered crime paperbacks -- or to go to a different level -- think Kama Sutra, a deluxe edition. Then too it could cover other guilty pleasures like -- ???? -- almost anything.

And -- off topic but are you -- and Summer, too -- on Ravelry.com yet? Now talk about yarn and knitting and fiber porn -- that's the place -- though my daughter usually just refers to it as "crack" -- oh my. She's with yarn etc as I am with books though she also reads.

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message 11: by Ann
07/16/2008 06:19PM

406595 Dottie,
Yes, I am clumberknits on Ravelry. There are also a few good book-related groups over there, and there's a Ravelry group here at Goodreads, too.

My yarn collecting illness is actually worse than my "bibliophilic bingeing" -- because I *know* that I have several lifetimes worth of yarn, whereas I am still hopeful that I will read/use all of my books before I go to the great "skybrary".

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message 12: by Dottie
07/16/2008 07:02PM

336421 I think I'm just hopeless all the way around -- everything I do I overdo and it will take several lifetimes to do it all! Especially since I hit great stretches where nothing gets done at all, at all. SIGH

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message 13: by Ann
07/16/2008 08:19PM

406595 Dottie, I do believe that we're kindred spirits.

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message 14: by Summer
07/16/2008 08:57PM

227351 When I first started knitting and crocheting, I crashed a knitting group at a nearby library which had a woman from Vogue Knitting showing their designer collection. It was amazing and awfully overwhelming-both to see the designer patterns and outcomes and to see what everyone was working on. Meanwhile, there I was working feverishly with my size ten needles thinking I was never going to finish my sleevless sweater.

Yarn shops are a challenge. Lately, I avoid them, but when I lived closer I would go to the Stitchery in Pearl River, NY for help and wind up getting sucked in by some beautiful yarn for which I had absolutely no project.

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message 15: by Debbie
07/16/2008 09:24PM

1185055 My obsession is, or was, buying every Anne McCaffrey book that was published. Since "The White Dragon", we've bought everything she's published, in hardback. I even searched for some of her older books and bought those. I have the board game, all the companion books like People of Pern, Atlas of Pern, etc. She's slowed down on her publishing, so it's easier now. I have one tall bookshelf devoted to her works.

You mentioned knitting patterns, Anne. I'm that way with counted cross-stitch patterns. Besides 2 uncompleted projects that have at least been started, I have a half dozen more waiting. Those are kits - patterns I bought that I want to do someday, I've lost count of those. And if I found a free pattern on a website?? Have to have it, whether it will get done or not.



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message 16: by Lynnea
07/17/2008 10:06AM

894075 It seems my addictions are just beginning. I find myself unable to resist cookbooks and hand sewing/embroidery books.

But on the whole, I'm bad about buying too many books of any kind and then having them sit on my shelf staring longingly at me.

I recently downloaded my first audio book and I can see where this could easily become an addiction as well.

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message 17: by Leah
07/20/2008 08:42AM

1156629 My "Whybrary" consists of text/factual books - mostly history and art subject matter, but there are a few math and english books in the mix.

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message 18: by Mark
07/21/2008 07:05PM

1241685 My UnderCover Library, - wherein I'm not ashamed of it, but I don't necessarily parade it around to non-readers I know in person: I can't help buying fiction books with the word, LOVE, in the title.

- Love, etc (Barnes)
- A Blind Man Can See How Much I Love You (Bloom)
- Love in the Time of Cholera (Garcia Marquez)
- History of Love (Krauss)
- Geek Love (Dunn)
- Love is a Dog from Hell (Bukowski)
- The Feast of Love (Baxter)
- Love Today (Biller) *still found in New Releases

Especially if it's a collection of short stories, it's a done deal for me - I will probably buy it if the first page is 'not terrible'. But really, I would not do this if it wasn't generally more hit than miss.

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message 19: by Ann
07/22/2008 08:28AM

406595 Mark: very cool! I will be looking at my bookshelves differently today.

Ian McEwan's First Love, Last Rites jumps to mind (stories, too!).

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message 20: by Dottie (last edited 07/22/2008 11:22AM)
07/22/2008 11:21AM

336421 Ann, you bring that book up now and again -- it's one of his I've not yet read -- but the title alone is pulling at me, saying "read me now". Another one for the bag of books going camping? I'll never read that many books on the trip so time to prioritze!

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message 21: by Ann
07/23/2008 05:11AM

406595 Dottie,
Not sure if you've left for your camping trip yet, but I don't know if I'd tell you to include it in your bag of books.

I have a very complicated relationship with First Love, Last Rites. I started reading McEwan in the early 90s -- I think Black Dogs was my first. Truth be told, I did not love it at the time. I became a fan with Amsterdam, which I think was a huge leap for him in terms of character development and plot structure, and then "adopted" McEwan as mine with Saturday. But it was the underlying psychology that keeps me thinking about the books long after I've read them -- those underlying psychological motivations that cause the characters to act in ways that we hope we would not choose were we in similar circumstances.

So I went back to his first book of stories (First Love Last Rites) to see the total transformation of McEwan's style. To my delight, the writing in his first book is very strong and compelling. The psychology, however, is definitely *not* buried. Frankly, it was an uncomfortable read -- which made a great impact on me, but also makes it hard to recommend to people I don't know well. The topics of the stories are brutal: rape, incest, pedophilia. A recent comparable book would be Donald Ray Pollock's debut collection, Knockemstiff -- incredible writing, tough topics.

So now, armed with those insights, you can decide. Let me know what you think ...

Thanks,
Ann

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message 22: by Susanne
07/23/2008 08:10AM

1194018 Ann,
Thanks for the McEwan post....I also had not heard of First Love, Last Rites and read the Amazon reviews on it.
It does sound disturbing and dark.
I absolutely love McEwan, but he does creep me out sometimes.
Did you perchance read (or see) THE COMFORT OF STRANGERS?
Christopher Walken plays Robert in the movie and he totally makes your skin crawl...McEwan takes you places you can't imagine and he makes you look at things you often don't want to see...
But he does it all with such elevated prose that it feels like you need to be there.
My first McEwan book was ENDURING LOVE and it stayed with me for a long, long time.
FIRST LOVE, LAST RITES looks a bit too dark for me right now, but I'm sure I'll eventually read it.
Susanne

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message 23: by Susanne
07/23/2008 08:21AM

1194018 Mark,

That's a great addiction!...Love!

I just ordered MY MISTRESS'S SPARROW IS DEAD, GREAT LOVE STORIES FROM CHEKHOV TO MUNRO.
I enjoy short stories in between my other reads.
And it seems there are fewer of them written of late.
Why is that?
Is it that publisher's don't want them?
It certainly takes a talented writer to really pack a punch with so few words.
Susanne


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message 24: by Dottie (last edited 07/23/2008 08:58AM)
07/23/2008 08:55AM

336421 Ann, It seems to me you came to your admiration of McEwan by as convoluted a path as I have taken. You may be a bit further along the path than I but I'm following close on your heels -- On Chesil Beach may have tipped the scale toward being a true fan for me though I've not gone totally over that line as yet -- I'm leaning that direction, let's say.

I LOVE that you say Amsterdam was the book which was your turning point because I loved that book and praised it over and above books of his which others said were far better. Amsterdam remains high on my own favorites of McEwan's works.

Enduring Love was my own stumbling block for a long time. Took three attempts and some hand-holding by a couple of internet friends to get me through it and I somewhat grudgingly came around to understanding why it was such a good read in their opinion and in the opinion of many others, of course. I still have a bit of a love-hate thing mixed with great respect for Enduring Love. I do give it equal billing with Amsterdam now, for example.

Then with the recent reading and discussion on Constant Reader of his On Chesil Beach -- well, I'm leaning. I certainly liked the book more than many did and felt it was a bit of a change for McEwan in that it is so spare and direct but retains all of those hidden layers which always emerge in his work.

So warning noted and taking my own complicated relationship with the author into account, I will see if this one goes into the bag for the trip.

And, given the similarities here, maybe we are kindred spirits as you said around here somewhere!

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message 25: by Ann (last edited 07/24/2008 09:15AM)
07/24/2008 05:32AM

406595 Susanne: I admit that I only recently read The Comfort of Strangers. I had seen the Christopher Walken movie years ago, and it freaked me out quite a bit, and so I resisted the book. I do love the book now, but I'm not sure that I can really separate it in my mind from the film. People laugh at me when I say that The Comfort of Strangers (film) made me want to never visit Venice, but I'm not sure I could walk down those alleys without having chills up and down my spine the entire time.

Dottie: We are most definitely kindred spirits! Thanks, and have a great trip!

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message 26: by Dottie (last edited 07/24/2008 08:46AM)
07/24/2008 08:20AM

336421 Thanks, Ann, I think we will enjoy our camping -- three decades after the first and only camping, we are up and running! Hey, we're getting old -- it's time to do wacky things!

I also wanted to say that I will definitely be checking out both the film and the book The Comfort of Strangers as Christopher Walken is one of those actors whose films I cannot resist.

Thanks for menitoning it, Susanne.

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message 27: by Susanne (last edited 07/24/2008 03:34PM)
07/24/2008 03:34PM

1194018 Dottie and Ann,

I was experimenting with writing Villanelles when I first saw this movie. I needed to write something, so I took it to the poetic form of the Villanelle...it served as a kind of a catharsis for me.

Here's the Villanelle...

Stranger Comfort

I'd kill to be in a movie like that!
Armani draped in a red silken gown.
Handsome young lads all hungry to chat!

The camera would trail as down we sat.
And capture all with incestuous frown.
I'd kill to star in a movie like that!

Floating Venetian canals, aptly play at;
luring naïve tourists to facetiously clown!
Such dashing lads; so hungry to chat!

Man in White Suit tipped his pristine hat!
Under stars a zillion; we circled around.
Kill I would to play in a movie like that!

He said "Please stop by my Palatial Flat!
My wife's sumptuous suppers are so renowned;
Maybe beautiful lads will be there to chat?

In lushness and splendor of exotic wild cat;
Crept violent a slash that took him down!
No handsome lad now so hungry to chat!
Killed by his beauty in creepy movie like that!

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message 28: by Ann
07/24/2008 08:15PM

406595 Susanne, I'm speechless. And I admit that I had to look up "Villanelle." Well done! I wonder what Mr. McEwan would make of that!

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message 29: by Dottie
07/24/2008 10:45PM

336421 Susanne -- I am properly impressed.

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message 30: by Barbara
07/28/2008 06:46PM

340071 I keep meaning to come and tell you and Michael that I loved this episode. I'm finally starting to control my bookbuying addiction (at age 61). Now, I just borrow too many books from the library. But, I loved the your conversation about cookbooks. I rarely cook any more, but still like to read recipes. And, you made me want to go look at most of the cookbooks you discussed. One of my favorites when I cooked a lot, worked full time and was raising too sons was The Good Food Book by Jane Brody. When I do cook, I still use some of those recipes.

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message 31: by Ann
07/28/2008 07:48PM

406595 Barbara, thank you! We weren't quite sure how the cookbook episode was going to go over, but we had a lot of fun doing it.

I used to have a copy of The Good Food Book -- I think it might have been one of the first cookbooks that I sold to bookstores in my job as sales rep. I wonder if that book is still around here somewhere ....

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message 32: by JT
07/29/2008 09:15AM

1300107 Great episode, guys!! I too love cookbooks. Especially baking cookbooks. One of my faves is Martha Stewart's Baking Handbook. The layout and the photographs are gorgeously done.


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message 33: by Christine
07/29/2008 05:52PM

1216763 It is so good to read this thread and know that I'm not alone... my book addiction is the same as several mentioned above -- anything with pages and a binding! I love all kinds, all the time. I tend to lean toward mysteries/suspense/thrillers but I never pass up a recommendation. Luckily I've learned that my local library is a very valuable tool and I don't have to single-handedly support my local bookstores. ;o)

My TRUE, awful, evil addiction is magazines. I love the shiny covers beckoning to me from the racks in the stores... in ALL the stores. They are EVERYWHERE. I've managed to keep my addiction in check but sometimes there's a part of me that says, "it's just one... go ahead. It's just one..." It's awful!

Ann - I am so glad that you mentioned your love of school supplies... When I was little, I loved getting a "treat" and I always went for the school/office supply aisle. LOL! I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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message 34: by JT
07/30/2008 12:46PM

1300107 Oh my goodness Christine, I am such a sucker for magazines too...and school supplies!!! There was nothing like the start of the school year with the fresh notebooks and pencils and crayons and what not.

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message 35: by Ann
07/30/2008 12:57PM

406595 School supply lovers of the world, unite!

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message 36: by Michael
07/30/2008 04:06PM

1021858 I have almost as many cooking magazines as I do cookBOOKS!!

and, doesn't everyone love office supplies?

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message 37: by Ann
07/30/2008 04:08PM

406595 "and, doesn't everyone love office supplies?"

No. You're as strange as the rest of us.


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message 38: by JT
07/30/2008 08:14PM

1300107 haha but we are together in this! Safety and strength in numbers!

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message 39: by L
07/31/2008 06:48AM

568109 I have quite a few obsessions when it comes to books. First I have lots of cookbooks which exasperates my husband who complains that we have the "same old thing for dinner too much". I think I have an information overload so I fall back into my old favorites. I also collect sewing books, but since having another baby my sewing has taken a long break so I try to hold off further book purchases there. As far as reading goes I read a little of everything so my buying can get out of control. I have a co-conspirator in my husband in this respect because he is the same way (only with the Sci fi/fantasy section mostly).

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message 40: by Debbie
07/31/2008 09:58PM

1185055 Do you those of us who love to read also love school supplies because we secretly have a yearning to use them to craft our own stories? Just a thought.

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message 41: by Ann
08/01/2008 07:16AM

406595 Debbie, maybe ... I do love a clean, blank notebook -- it's just full of possibilities.

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message 42: by Catyche
08/01/2008 01:27PM

1280708 Oooh, I love office supplies. I have a deep and not-so-secret love of pens; I have to have as many as possible but to be considered truly good they have to be as unique as possible in design. Ket attention is payed to grip, color of outer casing and thickness of pen nib. I know, I know-it's very weird and OCD like but I can't help it! I love Office Max/Staples/etc.

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message 43: by Adriana
08/02/2008 07:00AM

175233 Hello everyone. I'm new to the group. I just read your answers on this post and I have to say I agree with most of you. I too love cookbooks. I collect them and just love trying out the new recipes.

Office supplies are great! I remember as a young girl going with my father to staples to buy markers and fun pens. Folders and journals. I couldn't wait to get home and put them to use. They used to have (may still have) really modern, different things that you couldn't find anywhere else back in the 80's.

I also love journals. Usually the higher end ones. Something about the first time I open the journal and smell the pages brings me all sorts of ideas on what I can fill the pages with.

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message 44: by Ann (last edited 08/02/2008 08:04AM)
08/02/2008 08:03AM

406595 Adriana, welcome!!! Glad to have you here.

I haven't been doing so well on the 'cooking new recipes part, so this week we started our cookbook project -- one recipe from a different cookbook (that we already own) each week. This week's book was Flavors of Tuscany by Nancy Jenkins -- we made the Lemony Chicken, and it was delicious.

Thanks for posting!

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message 45: by Adriana
08/03/2008 03:39PM

175233 Thanks for the warm welcome Ann. Since I am new I am not sure if you mean that you are doing this new recipe a week with this group or by yourself. Is it a group thing? If so do we all have to use the same cookbook? I made a really simple recipe for Lemony Chicken out of an old Betty Crocker cookbook about 3 months ago and it was DELICIOUS. Good luck with your new recipes.