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Found this message board for Ex-Scientologists the other day.
I'd always known they where a bit crazy but I had no idea just how out and out abusive scientology is.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/
Well worth reading. I've been looking at the Staff War Stories and the My story from inside Scientology boards and the descriptions of the abuse Scientology puts people through is sickening.
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Dan
(last edited 07/15/2008 08:36PM)
07/15/2008 08:35PM
I read an article a while back talking about how the things that Scientologists believe are crazy - but no more crazy than the things Christians, etc. believe. The point the writer was trying to make, though, wasn't that we should dismiss all religion as cultist buffoonery as we do Scientology, but that - and the writer meant this to inspire hope, not dread - Scientology will one day be a mainstream religion, respected by society as much as Christianity is.
I view Scientology as sort of an Athiests' Last Stand. I understand how other religions have become mainstream: they're well-entrenched, having been able to disseminate their mythologies long before many of the advances in science, technology and communication that would either facilitate the debunking of these myths, or render them unnecessary. Scientology, though, is different; we know it's a bunch of made-up crap; we know
who made it up; we know
when he made it up; we know
why he made it up. And this all happened recently enough that it's well-documented. Hubbard is even known to have said that starting a religion is a great way to make money. If society lacks the wherewithal to piss on this fire before it spreads further, then really I don't know that there's any hope for atheism to ever be accepted in the mainstream. We just need Tom Cruise to go on Oprah a few more times, I guess, to really hammer the message that Scientology (i.e. religion) is crazy!
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Judy
(last edited 07/16/2008 03:39PM)
07/16/2008 03:39PM
You need only spend enough time on Youtube to realize that Scientology is a cult of the worst kind. Between the laughs (e.g. impersonations of Tom Cruise's maniacal laughter during his rants) and the posted confessions/fears of ex-members, a rational person will make no mistake about the dangerous nature of this new religion.
I'm with you, Dan, in that Scientology should be easily debunked because of its recent origins, etc. Still, you are quite optimistic if you think that it will make much difference if people think it's crazy. Many do think it's crazy--and what of it? The problem is that they don't think it's dangerous.
But check out Jerry O'Connell's prank calls to the celebrity center and his and others' imitations of Tom Cruise. They're best viewed after watching the real thing--you'll need a laugh afterwards.
BTW, I think Tom Cruise may be an untreated psychotic. Or something.
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Judy,
I'm not optimistic at all; quite the contrary. It's not that I think it will make much difference if people continue to think, no, realize that Scientology is crazy; it's that I'm afraid that one day people generally
won't think it's crazy. This is why I think it's vitally important to kill Scientology dead. We already have enough religious nonsense passing as "respectable" in our culture. The last thing we need is this Battlefield Earth crap.
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I hear you.
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On a side note, does anyone actually know a real, in-the-flesh Scientologist? I've seen a few when they have their booth set up at a local festival, but I've never come across one in daily life. Also, do Scientologists have any sort of food restriction? How can anyone take seriously a religion that doesn't prohibit or revere the eating of some random food?
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(last edited 07/25/2008 02:11PM)
07/18/2008 06:03PM
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My half brother is a Scientologist. He took me to one of their meetings once. It was at a hotel and had a satellite feed from someplace where some guy in a pretty uniform was giving a speech. This was a long time ago and I don't remember it all very clearly, but I do remember that almost every line of the speech ended with the initials LRH. Also the camera kept panning the audience and zooming in on celebrities like John Travolta. After the speech came the information gathering attempt, they wanted me to fill out a form and give them my name, number, etc. I told them I'd think about it and took the form, and their promotional materials, and told my brother I was ready to leave. He kept asking me what I thought about it on the trip home, and I told him it was all very interesting but that I didn't think I'd be joining any time soon. He dropped me off at my apartment and that was that. I glanced through a few of the booklets, but they all eventually ended up in the trash where they belong.
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Well, at least he is only your half brother...ha ha, just kidding.
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Yeah, I've seen him maybe twice since then, and it was at least 15 years ago that this happened. I wonder what level of Operating Thetan he's reached.
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Hey, he might even be able to fly and travel through time by now!!! And to think, that could've been you...
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Tyler
(last edited 07/19/2008 07:55AM)
07/19/2008 07:55AM
I wonder what level of Operating Thetan he's reached.
I guess it depends on how much money he's spent with them.
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hmmm, well, tens of thousands... so he might be a level II by now eh?
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