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message 75: by rivka (new)

171430 Gone. (And there were almost 20 flags on his posts.)


message 74: by Abigail (new)

424514 He's posted in the Children's Books group, as well as the L.M. Montgomery group (Kindred Spirits), I deleted the topic in both...


message 73: by Lisa (new)

83445 Flagged him in the banned books group.

I wonder if it would ever help if Goodreads sent a message to spammers/serial spammers before deleting their "membership" status. Probably not, but simply deleting them often doesn't work either.


message 72: by Stephen (new)

2059576 Ahmed in the Poe group. Flagged him. I think he's having a blast. Could we send him a blast of spam busting, viral loaded, Ahmed computer killer something? anything?


message 71: by Lori (new)

369169 http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/28897...

yup. flagged him in the Christopher Moore group. He is unstoppable! This is really silly now.


message 70: by JG (new)

48404 http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/28897...

And he's already back. I flagged him in another group.


message 69: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 rivka wrote: "And gone."

Atta girl! :-)



message 68: by rivka (new)

171430 And gone.


message 67: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Like a bad dream, he's BACK! Posting that same--confusing--message as fast as he can.


message 66: by Lisa (new)

83445 If you get rid of the member without deleting the post, it might remain. If you simply delete the post the topic and other messages will remain. You can delete your own post. If you're a mod you can also delete the entire topic/thread.


message 65: by Isis FG (new)

946249 I poofed the topic :) His initial post was gone, by mine was still there.

Yesterday (or whenever it was), the one in the Nora Roberts group still had the person's post, but said 'deleted member.' Maybe it takes the system a little bit to catch up to the deletion. Dunno.


message 64: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Wait. That was Isis posting in that "good group" topic created by "deleted member." I think her post flagging it is what caused the topic to remain. She'll delete it as soon as she sees that, I'm sure.

Thanks again, Rivka.


message 63: by rivka (new)

171430 That's a link to the group. I think you mean this, although it has been deleted one way or another.


message 62: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 rivka wrote: "Hmm. They shouldn't, not when the member is deleted administratively."

Here's one of the posts.


message 61: by rivka (new)

171430 Hmm. They shouldn't, not when the member is deleted administratively.


message 60: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Ah, the posts or comments do stay. The name changed to "deleted member" though.

Thanks Rivka!


message 59: by rivka (new)

171430 Well, he IS. ;)


message 58: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Awe, I was hoping to see a "poof he's gone." "-)


message 57: by rivka (new)

171430 Persistent bugger. Keep reporting him if he creates new IDs again.


message 56: by Lisa (new)

83445 He's in like 59 groups, they will probably all get scmmed

They definitely will. It's the only reason they've joined the groups and Goodreads.


message 55: by Megan (new)

2417140 He's in like 59 groups, they will probably all get scmmed


message 54: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Egads. That "newest spammer" is still going strong.


message 53: by Lisa (new)

83445 Thanks for letting us know that Rivka. It's good to know and I'll keep it in mind for when this happens again.


message 52: by rivka (last edited Oct 25, 2009 09:49AM) (new)

171430 Lisa wrote: "I wonder if we first flag with a message and then delete whether that would work."

Nope. The flag goes away if the message does.


message 51: by Lisa (new)

83445 Bun, that's a good idea, and include the URL of the member profile in your flag message.


message 50: by BunWat (new)

747169 You could always take a screen shot of the spam before you delete it, so if GR has a question you would have a record of it.


message 49: by Isis FG (new)

946249 I deleted him from the NR group, but left the post there for now.

Don't people have better things to do with their time than be obnoxious like this?


message 48: by Lisa (new)

83445 Members have a choice whether or not their posts remain if they leave or are deleted from a group. I forget what the default is; I think it's that the posts remain if a person leaves, but I'm not sure, and I don't know if it's the same for moderator deletions.


message 47: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Oh, that sounds like the best avenue to take, Lisa. Good idea.


message 46: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 I wondered about that, too. But the last I read, when a member was deleted their group posts remained. If I remember correctly, people were concerned when members canceled their membership that their posts in groups would be gone; thereby, (possibly) voiding the flow of the discussion.

Of course, that doesn't answer the question of whether GRs staff need to see the SPAM posts in order to determine if the member needs to be deleted.


message 45: by Lisa (new)

83445 If we flag it, Goodreads sees it within the message and they see who posted it. I think enough of the posts have been flagged that it's okay to delete some of them, but that's a good point.

I wonder if we first flag with a message and then delete whether that would work.


message 44: by Megan (new)

2417140 Isis FG wrote: "Ok, so here's a question (just found a spammer post in the Nora Roberts group)...

Anyway, I flagged it and was about to delete it but I wondered if GR still has access to the post if we delete it ..."


I didn't delete from my groups for this reason


message 43: by Isis FG (new)

946249 Ok, so here's a question (just found a spammer post in the Nora Roberts group)...

Anyway, I flagged it and was about to delete it but I wondered if GR still has access to the post if we delete it from the group, or if we should leave it there for them to see and decide on an appropriate action.


message 42: by Lisa (new)

83445 Yes, I removed the post (Kathrynn, thanks for reminding me to remove him from the group) from a group I co-moderate, and just flagged him at another group.

Goodreads will delete this "member" but I'm sure they'll be back with another screen name.


message 41: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Couture.Dior.Megan wrote: "I didn't know if I was suppose to"

You certainly don't have to, Couture. I delete the spam because it clutters up the posts, imo. (in my opinion)




message 40: by Megan (new)

2417140 I didn't know if I was suppose to


message 39: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 I removed him and his comments from the groups I moderate.


message 38: by Anna (new)

202331 I deleted his comment in Poland group, where I'm a moderator. I also saw him in two other groups.


message 37: by Jessica (new)

2065206 I saw him post in two of my groups yesterday but I had to leave before I could do anything. Glad someone else caught him.


message 36: by Megan (new)

2417140 ^All of his Recent post are the same^

http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/28728...




message 34: by Kathrynn (new)

669573 Another spammer.


message 33: by Petra X (new)

1237196 Stephen do you buy or have you bought from PGW - Publishers Group West, because I had some terrible security problems with them.


message 32: by Petra X (new)

1237196 Stephen wrote: "We kind of have the same problem at Barnes & Noble with authors. Especially the Small Press ones. For most of the time Small Press books are non-returnable book for us. So these authors know we wil..."

My bookshop is in the Caribbean and so no books are returnable for me. I have to sail over to another island ($55 ferry) to even post them.

I do try and show local authors what they should do to get their book sold, but they confuse selling with promoting. When the Gvt. offers them a reception in the gvt buildings they take it. All A-list partygoers there for the freebies who will sadly have left their wallets behind and most never buy the book (or any other one). I tell the authors have a booksigning in one of the few bookshops here, especially in mine cos I have a cafe and the only proper bookshop. I know, same as you do, that I can sell from a signing. But no, they take the gvt freebie and later come in and say they only sold 5 books but they have promises of at least 50 people who are going to come and buy.


message 31: by rivka (new)

171430 Lisa wrote: "Re flagging profiles, not a bad idea, but you can always copy & paste their URL into a message and send it at the contact us link at the bottom of the page."

It's actually easier if you flag the review/post/etc. than the profile anyway. That way we can see what they're doing that is problematic.


message 30: by Cheryl (new)

1976749 Stephen wrote: "We kind of have the same problem at Barnes & Noble with authors. Especially the Small Press ones. For most of the time Small Press books are non-returnable book for us. So these authors know we wil..."

The things that some will do to misuse the system...........it never fails to amaze me. Don't suppose it would occur to them that they are abusing B&N's kindness in ordering without pre-payment.




message 29: by Lisa (new)

83445 I just flagged a third one, on one of my reviews, then because it was my review, I was able to delete the post myself.

It's more worrisome to me that a spammer is spamming on reviews. In groups, there are enough members that someone will know about flagging; also the spammer has to join groups in order to post. Anyone can post on any review and members participating in those threads may have no idea what to do about it.

Re flagging profiles, not a bad idea, but you can always copy & paste their URL into a message and send it at the contact us link at the bottom of the page.


message 28: by Lisa (new)

83445 Kathrynn, Last night I flagged/reported 2 of their posts/I got emails about them because they were comments on reviews I was following. (I didn't click on any of those links!)


message 27: by Stephen (new)

2433785 We kind of have the same problem at Barnes & Noble with authors. Especially the Small Press ones. For most of the time Small Press books are non-returnable book for us. So these authors know we will not carry them in the stores. What they will do is like order 5 or more under a different name and not come to pick them up.

Instead of trying the correct way of getting their books in the store, like trying to do a book signing. Or the publisher doesn't help them to push the book like they should. A lot of this small press authors are first time authors and they just don't know or understand how to promote their books. And no one shows them.

Some of the problems is the Publishers will tell the writers that the book is returnable so when they have come in the store and asked why we don't put in the store. I have had to tell them it was non-returnable. They will ask even then if if they ordered the book would we put them on the shelves. I have to say no. I will only order them if the a customer is going to pick them up.

I have to admit this has slowed done some. But it it is still a problem from time to time.


message 26: by Shannon (new)

395599 I came to post about "milooe" too Kathrynn - it seems to be an advertising spammer for basketball shoes.


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