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Kwesi 章英狮 (kwesifriends) | 2711 comments I missed it! I'll do my best next time! Haha. And thanks for sharing the song! Haha.


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments fantastic discussion :) congrats Aaron!


Tricia (triciuhhh) | 1719 comments Maria: sweet mo naman *hugs*

Guys, sorry di ako nakapunta :'( kala ko magiging okay ako e. Lumala lang dahil night shift ako kagabi hehe enjoy the discussion ;)


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Maria: *figuring* :)


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Tina: *heto Kleenex*

Tricia: count me as one of your friends ;)

KD: pang-apat ako sa 5 magkakapatid. Go figure =P


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Ah, okay. :)


Lynai | 1076 comments We still have to check in at the hotel in Pasay and leave our luggage. :)


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Saan ba kayo dadaan at bakit makakarating pa kayo sa Pasay? Ba't di kayo bumaba sa West Ave? May paradahan ng provincial buses doon. Then I can pick you up kung wala pang 1 p.m.

Not sure lang kung may paradahan ng provincial buses sa mismong Quezon Ave. Anybody here knows?


Lynai | 1076 comments K.D. wrote: "Lynai, joke lang yan. I just thought of enumerating the Baguio pasalubong that I am missing. :) Wag na. Teka, saan ka ba bababa, susunduin kita para di ka mahirapan? :)"

Weee thanks for the offer K.D. pero sa Pasay kami bababa malayo na sa F2F venue. Cge lang, we'll manage to catch up hopefully kahit past 5 na andun pa rin kayo. :)


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments Two years ago? Ay mumoy pa ako nun. :D


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Rollie: Hindi talaga. Pero parang 2 years ago na yan. Wala kasi akong latest eh. :)


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments Okay naman! Hehe. Di ba talaga photoshopped? joked!:D


Maria Ella (mariaellabetos) | 944 comments I shall share my sentiments on the discussion na lang. :D


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) KD: Nagulat ako sa DP mo. Kala ko kung sinong author ang nagcomment. Kaw pala. :D

Hindi ba okay? Yan nga ang di photoshopped eh. :)


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) ibang degree ung pagiging support system ng family ko eh. i'm the responsible one there, but what if i want to be irresponsible and reckless? I can't be that person, when i'm with family. kaya sa friends ako punta. :)

Maria, ako kasi bunso. Ako ang madalas nilang sine-sermonan pero ako rin sinesermonan. Latest? Nakita nila yong picture ko sa 2nd Anniv., ang taba ko raw! Pinotakte ako ng email na mag-reduce daw ako hak hak. Promise, parang 100 na email yon na ganoon ang title. Yon ang tinatawag na support system! Ganun lang kami pati kababaw. Sobrang matitino kasi lahat at ako lang ang pasaway!


Tricia (triciuhhh) | 1719 comments I'm possesive with friends, too, because I don't have that many friends. :))


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments KD: Nagulat ako sa DP mo. Kala ko kung sinong author ang nagcomment. Kaw pala. :D


Tina (tinamats) | 2405 comments Maria wrote: "ibang degree ung pagiging support system ng family ko eh. i'm the responsible one there, but what if i want to be irresponsible and reckless? I can't be that person, when i'm with family. kaya sa friends ako punta. :) "

Haha ganun ganun talaga. Sa akin I don't think maloko ako with family or friends, but of course, the friends are there to indulge the whims na di magawa sa bahay. Haha. Also, parang sinabi lang ni Aaron sa review nya ng Jellicoe -- they're part of my anchors. They keep me grounded especially when I tend to obsess over something or over think. :)

*tissue*


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments I have a feeling why I'm a bit possessive of my friends especially when they get into relationships -- kasi before I had a friend who totally ditched us when she had a boyfriend. Then they broke up and samin din siya tumakbo.

my sentiments exactly. at ilang beses na nangyari sa aken yan, it's nothing new.

Ang support system ko siguro yong family ko at mga siblings kasi close kaming lahat.

ibang degree ung pagiging support system ng family ko eh. i'm the responsible one there, but what if i want to be irresponsible and reckless? I can't be that person, when i'm with family. kaya sa friends ako punta. :)


Tina (tinamats) | 2405 comments Maria wrote: "that's why i hate those people who leave or forget their friends pag nagka-bf or nagka-asawa na sila. eh sino ba ang karamay nila nung heartbroken sila? nung may family issues sila? db friends?"

Hear hear. I have a feeling why I'm a bit possessive of my friends especially when they get into relationships -- kasi before I had a friend who totally ditched us when she had a boyfriend. Then they broke up and samin din siya tumakbo. I know people change, and I know relationships change friendships, pero I guess I believe in the effort. Kung gusto may paraan, kung ayaw maraming dahilan.

Hindi naman sa ayaw ko magka relationships ang friends ko. Haha masaya na ko sa pakilala lang. :P

KD wrote: Di naman gaanong ma-drama ang buhay ko.

Haha ang girls ata by default madrama. :P


message 282: by K.D. (last edited May 18, 2012 12:23AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Tama kayo dyan, Tina at Maria. "Searching" is not the right word. Tsaka siguro kasi di ako naging successful na magkaroon talaga ng bestfriend prior to my wedding day. Pero nagkaroon ako ng friends, females and males, kaso parang di sila naging bestfriends ko (in my definition of that term). Then, nawala na rin sila o nawala na ang communication kasi na-busy na ako sa married life at sa career.

Di lang siguro rin ako attached sa friends and I don't think that there were times na that I needed a fallback or a support system dahil depressed ako and I needed a shoulder to cry on. Ang support system ko siguro yong family ko at mga siblings kasi close kaming lahat. Sa kanila ako nangungutang. (Joke).

Tsaka, di naman gaanong ma-drama ang buhay ko.


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Or, I don't know. Is it different for married women? Feel ko kasi I would still need a best friend other than whoever I get married to. Of course, hindi na guy best friend. But siguro searching is not the word, but you know, keeping your best friend.

KD's statement is true to a certain degree. Hubby & I have 1 set of friends separate from our common friends. Tipong I go to them if i need to blow off some steam bcoz of hubby. or he needs some male-bonding time with his set of friends.

I have best friends until now. Worst case scenario (marriage fails or whatever), fallback ko sila. and i believe i can still grow up and mature (apart from hubby) if i have them with me.

that's why i hate those people who leave or forget their friends pag nagka-bf or nagka-asawa na sila. eh sino ba ang karamay nila nung heartbroken sila? nung may family issues sila? db friends?

i value friendship very much. so i love Jellicoe. :)


Tina (tinamats) | 2405 comments K.D. wrote: "Di na rin ako makarelate sa friendship theme. Pag married ka na kasi ang opinyon ko dyan, yon ng spouse mo ang bestfriend mo. Then yong anak pa, bestfriend na rin. So, I stopped searching for bestfriend when I got married."

I read a lot about stuff on this. Of course, I can't say I agree just yet because I'm not yet married, but from the couples I know who recently got married, ganun din yung nakikita ko sa kanila. They still have other friends, pero not as close as they are to each other, especially since they're husband and wife na.

Or, I don't know. Is it different for married women? Feel ko kasi I would still need a best friend other than whoever I get married to. Of course, hindi na guy best friend. But siguro searching is not the word, but you know, keeping your best friend.

Or maybe that's just me and my singleness and my need to be social. Haha.

I have a feeling I may have just opened a can of worms with my questions/statements. Haha. :P


jzhunagev | 3323 comments K.D. wrote: "It was different lalo na kung nakakabasa ako ng novels or nakakapanood ng movies about male friendship. Di ba, "Birdy" ni Wharton, Jzhun?"

Daming kong tawa dito, Kuya. :D

Parang may subtle (double) meaning.


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Di na rin ako makarelate sa friendship theme. Pag married ka na kasi ang opinyon ko dyan, yon ng spouse mo ang bestfriend mo. Then yong anak pa, bestfriend na rin. So, I stopped searching for bestfriend when I got married. But when I was single? It was different lalo na kung nakakabasa ako ng novels or nakakapanood ng movies about male friendship. Di ba, "Birdy" ni Wharton, Jzhun?

So, pass na rin ako dyan. Doon na lang ako sa parent-child theme. Namimili? :)

Maria, mabuhay ang erotica! Kelan ba tayo magkakaroon ng librong erotica? Something to look forward to. Pero ayaw kong moderator kasi required na tumameme. :)


Tricia (triciuhhh) | 1719 comments Thank you haha Dad is sober now and is with us. That's why I'm sad for Taylor because...

With the romance, I think Taylor and Jonah had it. I mean, I won't get kilig (even if a bit) like this kung wala? Saka I remember that they had (view spoiler)

I'm a happy person even if I'm sad most of the time. Happiness is a choice naman :) uhhh I'm more into listening into sad music. Dala siguro ng angst and 'emo' days nung teenager pa ako haha (not that I'm old, teen pa din ako.) haha


Tina (tinamats) | 2405 comments Aaron Vincent wrote: "Mas may bromance pa nga si Santagello with Griggs than Taylor. "

True! Haha and si Santangelo ata saka si Raffy ang may issue. :D


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Aaron Vincent (aaronvincent) | 1646 comments Tricia: Thank you for sharing that. *Hugs* :)

Marchetta's depiction of friendship is what also draw me into this novel. How your connections to people anchors you to who you are(anchor not define, that's different). It is this theme that I can relate with the most.

The romance isn't apparent until the latter half of the novel. I don't even think Santangello and Taylor have a romance. It was platonic friendship. Mas may bromance pa nga si Santagello with Griggs than Taylor.


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments Tina: Tomoh! :D


Tina (tinamats) | 2405 comments Angus: Over drinks ang discussion na yan. With earth-shattering questions. :P

Tricia: *hugs*

I think I'm a generally happy person, but I like happy books. But sometimes I like sad books/songs too, kasi wala lang. :) Haha trip trip lang siguro.

I liked Jellicoe even if I cannot relate to Taylor's family issues. I really loved it more for the friendship, because in all of Marchetta's novels I've read, it's the friendships that felt absolutely real. These are the kind of friends that I compare to my own real life friends. For some of you who have met them and talked to them for a while, you probably know what I mean. :)


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments Paabot mareng Jason. :D


jzhunagev | 3323 comments Rollie wrote: "Mars wag mo ko ibuko. :D"

Sorry naman. :D *hands mareng Rollie a panyolito*


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments If the theme is about love and romance, pass ako.

If the theme is about love and romance, game ako! I relish reading different love stories of other people in books. I like reading different takes and insights on relationships.

dagdagan mo na din ng erotica. bwahaha


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments Mars wag mo ko ibuko. :D


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Maria, natawa ako binaliktad mo at inapply mo sa sarili mo :) of course, not. It does not work that way and I did not mean it.

Hahaha! i know, KD. i'm just playing with you. =P iba iba tayo ng ways to relate to a book, right?

Chami: pag parent issues ang pag-uusapang, kailangan nga ng alak. LOL


jzhunagev | 3323 comments ^I believe Kwesi is still marathon-reading the book. Well, he doesn't mind spoilers to begin with.

Anywhooo, parenthood is one the stronger themes of this book, at least for me and it's the one that I spotted right away.

Okey, alam ko na kung bakit napaiyak si Rollie ng book. ALAM NA! I feel for you pars (ay mali, Mars pala. Haha!) (^^,)v Peas!


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Maria, natawa ako binaliktad mo at inapply mo sa sarili mo :) of course, not. It does not work that way and I did not mean it.

Angus, siguro di ka talaga sad person. Iniisip mo lang. :)

Jzhun, good point. If the theme is about love and romance, pass ako. Pag tungkol sa parenthood, game :) Good point in hiding the spoiler. Not everyone is done with their reading yet. So, focus lang tayo sa earlier half. Baka may magma-marathon pa tonight at bukas :) Good luck na lang sa kanila :)


Rollie (zheick) | 2059 comments I could relate a bunch Taylor's longing for a father. :)


Angus (angus25) | 3533 comments KD: Eh paano naman ako, sad person na, sad books pa ang binabasa? OA din?

Chami: Sa Alabat na lang pag-usapan ang issues with parents.

Tricia: Thanks for sharing something so personal with us. :) *huuugs*


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Tricia wrote: "Huhu naalala ko nanaman. Naiiyak ako when one person don't have a Father. IDK, I lost my father once for couple of years (he was into drugs and was in rehab) and I know that sad feeling when you do..."

hugs, Tricia! I am a Daddy's girl and I will gladly share my experiences with you, not to make you envious, but to make you see that fathers come in many shapes and forms. :)


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Tricia wrote: "I haven't read or seen the One Day so I can't compare. I like Jellicoe Road not because of the romance or the first love. Friendship. It is that one that moved me while reading :)"

I'm not saying na ung romance lang ang dahilan kaya ko nagustuhan ang Jellicoe. I'm saying na you can't judge Taylor to be too dramatic or corny without knowing and understanding where she's coming from: a girl who grew up without a father and a mother. can you blame her for being screwed up?

I loved that from Narnie's family tragedy, friendships bloomed and eventually, a new family was formed.


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments Maria, oo naman. I prefer sad songs. I prefer sad stories. Sad na kung sad. Kasi happy person na ako. Tas kung happy pa rin ang babasahin ko, OA na. Ako na yong nasa story o yong nasa song. Wala nang nakaka-amuse.

So kung prefer ko ay happy songs/stories/endings, sad person ako, ganun b?

I also prefer sad or bitin ending. Yong nagi-isip. Ayaw ko yong parang sobrang lungkot at daming problema (like "The Color Purple") tapos biglang gagawin ng author, maso-solb lahat ng problems at presto, happy ending! Unnatural. Contrived.

it's not about problems being solved, what i want is a good closure in the end. yung tipong satisfying in terms of "i have issues, so what? at least there are still some things good that happened to my life".

Ayan. At least, alam na natin kung saan tayo nagkakaiba. Magkaibigan pa rin tayo kahit iba tayo ng kaligayahan :)

I agree. remember: you can't call someone a friend if you didn't have at least one argument with them first. :)


jzhunagev | 3323 comments Tricia wrote: "Physically there pero wala pa din, until he moved to the rehab facility. Tulad ni Taylor, memories and his gifts ang pinangangalagaan ko hehe pero nothing beats when he's here with the family hehe
(woooh, Daddy issues pala to haha) "


Good point. I think magandang thrust din ng discussion ang parenthood. Just a theme suggestion. :)


Tricia (triciuhhh) | 1719 comments Huhu naalala ko nanaman. Naiiyak ako when one person don't have a Father. IDK, I lost my father once for couple of years (he was into drugs and was in rehab) and I know that sad feeling when you don't have a father to run to when you have problems. Physically there pero wala pa din, until he moved to the rehab facility. Tulad ni Taylor, memories and his gifts ang pinangangalagaan ko hehe pero nothing beats when he's here with the family hehe

(woooh, Daddy issues pala to haha)


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jzhunagev | 3323 comments K.D. wrote: "Mayroon din yong memory ni Taylor na nakataas sya sa shoulder ng father nya. Ay, relate ako dyan dahil father ako at ginagawa ko yan dati sa anak ko noong toddler pa sya :)"

(view spoiler)


message 257: by K.D. (last edited May 17, 2012 06:49PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Tricia: That's a good point. The book is not just about love or romance. :)

Why did I not see that? Hmmm. I dunno. Towards the end of the story na kasi nabigyan ng emphasis ang friendship eh. Meron sa flashback (italics) pero malabo. So, when things clear up, andoon na yong idea ng romance triangle between Taylor and Briggs and Santangelo. Then tsaka pa lang pumasok yong friendship.

Pwede pa yong mother-daughter or guardian-daughter relationship. Mas nakita ko yon. Kaso di ako daughter. Mayroon din yong memory ni Taylor na nakataas sya sa shoulder ng father nya. Ay, relate ako dyan dahil father ako at ginagawa ko yan dati sa anak ko noong toddler pa sya :) For those themes, I can't dislike this book. :) Sad yon eh. Imagine wala syang ala-ala sa father nya except yon.


Tricia (triciuhhh) | 1719 comments I haven't read or seen the One Day so I can't compare. I like Jellicoe Road not because of the romance or the first love. Friendship. It is that one that moved me while reading :)


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Maria, oo naman. I prefer sad songs. I prefer sad stories. Sad na kung sad. Kasi happy person na ako. Tas kung happy pa rin ang babasahin ko, OA na. Ako na yong nasa story o yong nasa song. Wala nang nakaka-amuse.

I also prefer sad or bitin ending. Yong nagi-isip. Ayaw ko yong parang sobrang lungkot at daming problema (like "The Color Purple") tapos biglang gagawin ng author, maso-solb lahat ng problems at presto, happy ending! Unnatural. Contrived.

Ayan. At least, alam na natin kung saan tayo nagkakaiba. Magkaibigan pa rin tayo kahit iba tayo ng kaligayahan :)


Maria (mariasm) | 2141 comments hahaha! you see, KD? magkaiba tlg tayo pagdating jan.

I steer clear of depressing love stories. ung tipong after all they've been through, it still won't work out in the end. cynic as i may be in real life, but i am still a hopeless romantic at the core. thus, i almost always crave a happy ending.

I liked Taylor's teenage drama, I can relate to her at most, understand where she's coming from. pero pag drama ay depressing, nope. not for me.


K.D. Absolutely (oldkd) Maria: Oh yes, I prefer depressing love stories. There is also, as a subplot, the relationship of the male lead with his parents, so I think that's what actually struck me. I was in awe watching that scene when the father and daughter were climbing up the mountain where the father and the dead girlfriend (the mother of the daughter) used to watch the city when they were dating. Very moving. I did not feel those while reading "Jellicoe".

"Jellicoe" is more for younger people, say 25 below IMO? First love? "One Day" is for 25+ that have gone through lots of heartaches. Definitely not first love. Or yong mga na-inlove na tapos either they lost the love or unrequited (or yong naghihintay nang mahabang panahon, tapos wala).


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