Bye.

I have to go now. Bye!

No problem, I was snippy too.

And it's my first year, we start mid-terms in seventh grade in Texas, so I wasn't really prepared for the pressure. But I think I did okay. I'm sorry again for taking it out on you. Thanks for forgiving me.

I understand, it can get super stressful.

Thanks for forgiving me. I was all stressed about my mid-terms. They count for eighty percent of my grade!

Sherry wrote: ""i thought that stephenie meyer let down alot of mother and daughters; moms were rly happy that edward and bella were saving themselves for marriage, etc., and then stephenie meyer just had to make..."
lol

It's okay, Kayla. :)

I'm sorry. I was having a bad day and I took it out on you. I'm sorry for that.

I like Breaking Dawn ..
I felt really sad for Jacob though, that he gives up EVERYTHING for Bella ... even the TREATY ..
and still he gets nothing ... but i was happy with the imprinting part...love the protective'ness it brought to him ..
and ofcourse the SAM JACOB part .. when Jacob leaves the pack ... loved it ..It was awesome!!!

Kayla wrote: "I wasn't trying to chastise anyone. Forgive me for being rude. I won't post here anymore. :("

No, don't leave. It's okay. :) I just wanted to say that I disagreed with you and why. I didn't mean to slam you with a big post. I'm sorry. :(
I really hope you stick around.

thanks Vivi. :)

When I was reading the series, especially after New Moon, I wanted Jacob to find his true love, which at times I thought could possibly be bella. However, I'm glad he imprinted on Renesmee. So, I don't think I had any real let downs, but I completely understand the people who did have some.
:)

aww dont leave kayla :D i didnt find your comment rude, i guess what she is trying to say is that we all have our own opinions and we shouldn't try to change others

I wasn't trying to chastise anyone. Forgive me for being rude. I won't post here anymore. :(

Right there with you Ericka. I dreamed of it to end alittle differently. Stephanie actually wrote Breaking Dawn after Twilight. So no matter who said anything, it would end like that. I personally thought she should have ended up with Jacob. They would have made a great couple. I would be jelous, but it is how it should of ended.

Kayla wrote: "I don't get you guys.... I disagreed with pretty much any criticism about BD"

If you don't "get" us, that's the same as saying you don't understand us. And it's illogical to "disagree" with what you do not understand.

Kayla wrote: "I enjoyed it immensely, and no matter how many bad things you point out, I will either be able to disagree or find something good about it to contradict the bad.
:) Try me"

Why should we "try" you? There are already arguments in this thread you fail to address.

Anyway, you say that you "disagreed with pretty much any criticism"? Well, instead of chastising us for disliking something you enjoyed why didn't you, in your comment, just address what you disagree with? You know, rather than just saying you disagreed.

Also, I don't really think you understand what this thread is about. It is not about trying to convince the people who enjoyed it into not enjoying it. No. It is about the select few (most people enjoy BD) that happened to dislike it, or where disappointed. It's not as if we're all on a crusade to make everyone unhappy. This thread about the people who went into the book with a certain amount of expectations, and were let down. This is a place to share our frustrations.

So, I find it kind of rude for you to come in with the challenge of "Try Me", because it is really not about you. Which makes your comment off topic.

I agree with kayla. I love the fact that jacob has finally found someone to be with him, even though i must admit i was thinking that he was going to end up with Leah.

I don't get you guys. BD is my fave book out of all of them and if you want proof, I've read it one-hundred and eighteen times, soon to be one-hundred and nineteen, and it just keeps getting better. I can't imagine better writing and I absolutely love the work Stephenie put into BD. I think it was way better than the others. And...
I think that the name Renesmee is the prettiest name I've ever heard. And I also think that the ending was very good, though I think that if Steph doesn't want to finish DHN(MS) she should write another book i the Twilight series, set maybe twenty or so years later and mostly about Renesmee.
I disagreed with pretty much any criticism about BD, and that doesn't change now. I enjoyed it immensely, and no matter how many bad things you point out, I will either be able to disagree or find something good about it to contradict the bad.
:) Try me...

Maria wrote: "Someone not very important could die!"

Yeah, or someone semi-important so it has more dramatic effect. I mean, I liked the new character Benjamin, but... it would have been so dramatic.

I thought Breaking Dawn was a bit of a disappointment in "Book 3" when Bella was a vampire.
1. Jacob imprints on Renesmee? This broke my heart! Jacob should be with Leah!
2. Bella should have slipped up once. The world is not perfect!
3. The Volturi needed to have a fight! There was all that build up to something that NEVER happened! Someone not very important could die!
The rest of the book was good though!

you should not despise bella its her choice

I know what you mean i hate when books do that too its really annoying!!! it flustrats me alot like most of the goosebums doo that all the time i hate it so much

the most important thing in BD was the guarantee of closure. i liked that bella and edward ended up together and got their HEA (yess, i believe in HEAs!!) so yeah sure, it totally made sense for bella to be a vampire (eventually). i would have done things a bit different, but i enjoyed the ending!
what i dont like are books that end on a really ambiguous note, where you're just left to guess whether or not characters end up together, or if they just break up the next day ;)

fair enough!! I actually wouldnt have minded if that book was done in EPOV, although Midnight sun is from his but yeah I wouldnt have minded that...getting everything from his point of view!!

I could never really dislike Breaking Dawn, it is a Twilight book. So I don't speak from a place of not enjoying it, more as, I speak from being disappointed with how much better it could have been.

Had Breaking Dawn been a separate entity from the series, and written by someone else, I would have really liked it, but since it was supposed to be a continuation from the first three books that I loved, it really upset my expectations and a lot of others.

yeah I know aye lmao IDK I tend to have mixed feelings with this book lolz all though it would be a little disturbing transfered to screen I bet they shud have a rating for that! they actually needed to put a rating on the book too, coz like under ten year olds read these books and this was a bit explicit, well not to the extent but not for children lol but yeah I often see myself swinging in every direction with this book lol I find a lot of flaws and alot of favs in this book ;)

Yeah, which is sad, because that was kind of the concept of the series in the first place.

*nods head in agreement* totally on your guys boat!!! ;)

Yeah, totally! It's just not as appealing, I guess?

OMG! yes thats what I mean! haha!

Yeah, I liked her human. Lion and the Lamb is gold. Lion and the Lion is just not the same, and love between two vampires isn't forbidden love.

;) although one thing did pee me off a little lmao I didn't really want her to become a vampire (bella)...in a way I did but then when it happened it kind of felt not interesting anymore!! I liked the way she was human!! it made edward more humerous lmao because he teased her a lot!! so yeah that was dumb, yeh shel still be in danger, but I would have loved her if she stayed human, because she doesnt pull the gracefulness for me as vampire, shes just clumsy old bella to me lol

haha yeah I know and I know what you mean by JPOV but it was hard to get the voice of Jacob going on in my head haha!! but it was done and yeah like I said it was needed but I still dreaded it lmao!! Only because when your reading from Bella's POV you almost think its you in the book, but with Jacob it almost third person view, IDK thats just me haha I messed up just like the book I guess haha!!! OoOh and the bit wit the locket I loved, I got teary eyed IDK y :P:P but yeah this book was my fav outta the lot!! ;)

Without Jacob's point of view, I'm not sure if I could look at the book in the same way. Instead of three stars I would have given it two stars, which is reserved for books I really do not like. Many people do not understand Jacob and his motivations throughout the series, and it really helped shed light on him that many were not able to see previously. Besides, breaking from the pack, and his painful thoughts were very powerful, and added depth.

It wasn't really a happily ever after. The Volturi are still alive, and well. I like happily ever afters too, but I like them to feel in tune with the rest of the books. Breaking Dawn felt too segmented from the others. However, I do like happy endings.

You aren't the only one who enjoyed Breaking Dawn, but this thread is titled in a way so people who didn't enjoy it can voice their opinions, so you are not alone, it's just this thread specifically.

Bella did mature, but it wasn't a more mature Bella, it was like a more mature someone else. A lot of her characteristics were lost with this new found maturity, it didn't even feel like Bella anymore. And she was only eighteen when she had Renesmee, if that had happened in real life, no one would think of it as maturity. They'd think of it as a too early pregnancy.

Stephenie Meyer said the reason she added the POV in was because throughout that portion of the book, Bella was pregnant, and unable to do anything. And the Cullens did not share the situations with her, so that she could be in peace while having the baby. If it had been in Bella's point of view, most of the book would take place in the Cullens living room, on the couch.

Okay so I am probably the only one who did like BD out of the lot, okay eclipse was funny, new moon was devastating (break up) but I seriously like BD, although she could have given us a better sex scene!! seriously lmao but thats not why I liked it, I liked how Bella's character evolved and matured in this book, especially when she had Renesmee in her life, I found it touching that she found her reason for living and not just the edward thing, but a child can change your view on a lot of stuff, but thats what matured her so I liked it!!! the biggest disappointment in my view was changing POV to JPOV, although it is needed I dreaded reading that part lol and maybe getting married was a bit overboard but people must remember that Bella is desperate to become a vampire so she takes anything she can get lol although the volturi didn't seem badass enough...at least no one died!! sorry Imma sucker for happily ever afters and BD gave me some of that haha!!

definitely.

Hehe, that would make things a lot easier. :)

i like that they ended up being together. i liked the closure. so many authors are like: ohh, they're "together"--the end! and it's like, do they get married? do they break up? what happens!
but yeah, that "unbattle" for me was pretty anticlimactic. and i think i spelled that word wrong. i wish goodreads had auto-correct or something :P

I think it's romantic but only when it's spoken well my spanish is terrible I sound like an idiot most of the time.

I agree in a way Melzz

Well, I did like that last phrase, but the other stuff... Don't get me wrong, I could never hate it, but in comparison to the other books and what I'd come to expect, it disappointed. I think it was the fact that it felt so different from the others, like a separate book.

haha we missed the point in here...well I like the honney moon, it was funny to read what Jacob thinks, when all the vampires arround the world come to the cullen house was cool and the end when Bella allows Edward to read her mind it was just perfect for me, so.. basicly I like it XD

Haha, that's not what I meant. What I meant, is if someone's voice is very loud and annoying, even Spanish can't sound romantic. XD

Anyway, I didn't really enjoy Breaking Dawn. I thought it was almost too much of a happy ending...

then I'm not your guy....hahahahha my spanish is completly american XD, I don't like iberic spanish even when is the original :)

Oh, all right. Spanish is romantic when spoken with the right accent.

Melzz wrote:
I can understand that. They say English is going to be the new universal language in the coming decades."

what I mean is that the first school where we learn english is in tv and music, but I think is true... nearly everybody will have to lear english, allready is a requirement for many jobs, any way I love my language the spanish is very romantic XD

Manuel wrote: "here in El Salvador that's our first language school XD"

I can understand that. They say English is going to be the new universal language in the coming decades.

most of the english I know, I've learned watching tv and listenning music, here in El Salvador that's our first language school XD

Well I'm not Mexican I don't have hispanic family everything I know I've been taught over the last year and a half