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Total Recall Remake: 2012

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Michael | 64 comments Here's a link to a trailer for Total Recall 2012.

Looks typically action-heavy, but finger's crossed that it's a good film.


Pickle | 29 comments im genuinely gutted this is being remade as an action movie imo and starring the absolutely crap Colin Farrell :(


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stormhawk | 9 comments Great. Unnecessary remake. Plenty of other novels and stories to choose from and we get this? Sigh. I suppose it's keeping them from another Scooby Doo.


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Sérgio | 53 comments The trailer makes me think a lot about Minority Report but I can't see this being more than a bland blockbuster - I don't know why they gave this job to the guy who directed Underworld.

To make a brainless but effective blockbuster you don't have to screw around with PKD's work I think, any half-assed script would do.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments this REMAKE fills me with such 'dread', as almost everyone who's attempted a PKD film adaptation has just failed (I haven't seen Confessions of a Barjoe yet, the French film) to capture the questioning social aspect of a PKD novel, 'that life he lived'.

A Scanner Darkly 'tried' but just ended up being 'trying'.


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Byron  'Giggsy' Paul (giggsy) | 110 comments Mod
One article I saw said this was going to be much closer to Dick's story than the first movie. Another article I saw said to consider this a remake of the first movie, and not a remake of the Dick story.

Hoping for the first, but I think we all know its likely to be the second.


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Alex Ruhsenberger (ruhsena) | 2 comments Maybe I am the only one, but I thought the first one with Arnold was pretty poor... so if they started from Total Recall, as the remake, I am not sure they would have much to go with. But if they are going by the PKD story, well then it is a blessing then cause the first movie kinda pooed on that idea. Either they remake a story the right way, or try to wise up the goofiness of a crappy B-movie. Here we go Hollywood.


Pickle | 29 comments Mike wrote: "this REMAKE fills me with such 'dread', as almost everyone who's attempted a PKD film adaptation has just failed (I haven't seen Confessions of a Barjoe yet, the French film) to capture the questio..."

I thought A Scanner Darkly was magnificent and is easily the best PKD story on screen.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Here's my take on 'film adaptations' of books and 'remakes' of classic films etc.

1) film adaptations:
they're a different media - accurately depict a book on screen, you're making a fairly boring and unwatchable film. Blade Runner is a beautiful, poignant, amazing detective film set in a biogenetic future. Nothing wrong with that. But as far as Mood Machine, Mercerism and Kipple; it missed the target, for me.

2) remakes:
let time pass. Remember the EXCELLENT John Carpenter's THE THING. Now that was a remake. Time had passed. It was a different era. It was WORTH revisiting, with today's mentality and political environment.

3) foreign language remakes:
Nikita, The Vanishing, Girl with Dragon Tattoo etc. all great foreign films. What the fuck is wrong with people that thay can't READ? As soon as you sit through a foreign language film, read the subtitles, watch the scene, etc you don't feel it's as alien as when you first watched it. And you have the REAL PERSON acting, rather than some overdubbed English voice or Hollywoodised i.e. often sub-standard version.

4)A Scanner Darkly - one-trick pony, for me. Wobbly poster graphics were done more effectively (and more artisitcally) in Linklater's earlier film Waking Life

5) Flow My Tears - it's a CRIME that this film hasn't been made yet. A crime.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments I'm actually looking forward to watching TOTAL RECALL 2012, despite my cynicism. Why? Because I have masochistic tendencies and ALWAYS BELIEVE THE HYPE before watching a film. I've been well trained by years of commercialisation. My mind is their marketing toy, now.


:)


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Byron  'Giggsy' Paul (giggsy) | 110 comments Mod
I'm looking forward to it as well. But I think you have to distance your thoughts from PKD and the original story and just look at it as a potentially great sci-fi film.


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Ricky (trulyblissed) | 1 comments Michael wrote: "Here's a link to a trailer for Total Recall 2012.

Looks typically action-heavy, but finger's crossed that it's a good film."


Unless I took a lot of drugs that I certainly don't remember taking or am in my own PKD universe, I do not remember PKD writing science fiction action books. The first Total Recall pretty much sucked as a PKD movie. And these scenes don't bode well for an intelligent PKD movie. I hope I am wrong.


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Sérgio | 53 comments You guys are too harsh on the first Total Recall. Sure it's not a good PKD adaptation and it's not a movie masterpiece but it's a very fun action film. The plot is more concerned with the entertainment value than with deeper philosophical questions but it's still well constructed.

And in Verhoeven movies you can really see his personal touch, which doesn't happen with some of those current Hollywood action directors like Len Wiseman.


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JoJo Laforte (jojolaforte) | 1 comments As stated earlier I feel it's not true to the source but it was a fun action flick and a part of my childhood nostalgia. Does anyone think the remake is borrowing a lot from the Deus Ex video game series? The set dressing seems eerily familiar.


Michael | 64 comments Scott wrote: "Nothing could be worse than the Paul Verhoeven original."

Looks like you could be wrong about that, Scott.


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Gabriel | 7 comments So I just watched the remake ...

My gut reaction while watching it was: "Why does he steal the set design from Blade Runner and chase sequences from The Fifth Element and play out the this whole script like Paycheck?" In other words, I don't think this was originally meant as a remake of Total Recall. I think the whole Rekal, Inc. slant was added last minute for some 22nd anniversary bs.

Interestingly enough, I had heard (from Jessica Biel in her interview on the Daily Show as well as other movie critics discussing the press release) that this was supposed to hew closer to the original short story ... I think the 1990 version might actually be closer. At least, it was cheesy and mildly comedic (which is still my take on that short). Plus, it had Mars ... which is the opening line of the original short (and everyone would explain that "It's Not On Mars" is the big difference between remake and 1990, then, in the same breath, say that it's closer to the original short story).

Sigh. I'm going to watch Blade Runner and wish for someone else to make another movie half as good.

[For the record ... I also really like Minority Report, but I haven't read the original it's based on]


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Mohammed (Maxamed) | 102 comments Mod
Looper looks like what a good PKD adapatation should be like. Frankly when i saw the trailer i thought about how bad this film looked and how Looper looked like i was reading PKD time travel story.


Pickle | 29 comments Scott wrote: "It looks like Len Wiseman managed to do an even worse job than the dreadful original Arnold TR. Almost a miracle. I also don't like that he always plugs his wife, Beckinsale, an adequate actress,..."

i loved A Scanner Darkly but will admit im not keen on the others including Bladerunner (first 30 mins excluded)

I havent yet seen Radio Free Albemuth through want of trying :(

http://io9.com/5773699/first-trailer-...


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Well, as I masochistically claimed, on this forum, back in May 2012, that I was, "Looking forward to it," it's only fair that, having just seen (and reviewed) it I share my thoughts with you'all:

While the "two weeks," fat woman customs scene and the triple-breasted hooker "you're gonna wish you had three hands," scene provided chucklesome nods to the original Paul Verhoeven 18-cert version of this film, the constant use of the expletive "shit" and the one use of the word "fucking" especially if you're watching this with the subtitles on with the family is a bit much for a (supposedly) 12-cert film.

Read the rest here - MONOTRACER GOES FUTURISTIC IN TOTAL RECALL and the boss of Peraves, who make those gorgeous bikes, agrees with me.

:)


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Bobby Morris (bobby_morris) | 11 comments The Arnold Schwarzenegger version is one of my all-time favourite films, but I'm not getting my hopes up for the new version. Recent action films, imo, have been too pre-occupied with special effects and "trendy" dialogue. Die Hard and Die Hard 4 exemplify this turn-for-the-worse.

Continuing from Mike's comments, I'll say that I'd have preferred a Flow My Tears films to another Total Recall, e.g. this one


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Flow My Tears film, please!

:)

Oh, and for those who've been thinking about watching Looper ... don't. Gah, I dunno, there's DEFINITELY a PKD vibe to Looper's 1950's grunge style future and the TKs who're not mentioned in the trailer ... but it just, any time you do these sortsa films you hit the Paradox wall. Even the time-torture-amputation scene, I had 'issues' with.

Fun, enough, I suppose, but I don't wanna talk too much about it, as I might get angry for no good reason other than 'logic'.


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Alan (Alan_N) | 3 comments I thought this was ok. I'm kind of glad they did make a straight version of it, although the Arnie version is quite fun. I don't think it would win any awards, and definitely could have done with being weirder and much more Dick-inspired (rather than Hollywood-inspired); it just didn't show off Dick's genuinely thought-provoking ideas enough. On the up-side, I did get to watch Kate Beckinsale for about 80 minutes, which is always a bonus.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Wyrdskein,
you could always just phone Kate Beckinsale up and ask her out for a drink the next time she's in your town. Just man up.

:)


Randolph Carter (us227381) | 11 comments Has a decent Dick film ever been made? So few directors and producers "get" Dick and they are always trying to turn PKD into techno-thrillers. Maybe a Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan could do it if somebody would bankroll them.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Blade Runner, as good as it was, had NOTHING to do with 5 core concepts of the novel.

Total Recall was maybe the most Dick-fun.
Minority Report was a bolt attempt at movie making.

A Scanner Darkly came the closest to a 'real' Dick book, but it had that one-trick visual pony and the director let the actors over-act too much.


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Zay (Book_Guardian) | 2 comments Randolph wrote: "Has a decent Dick film ever been made? So few directors and producers "get" Dick and they are always trying to turn PKD into techno-thrillers. Maybe a Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan could do it..."

Screamers (1995) really is a lot better than people give it credit for. It may not have stuck to the story 100% of the time, but it did have that "Dick feel" throughout.


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Pickle | 29 comments Randolph wrote: "Has a decent Dick film ever been made? So few directors and producers "get" Dick and they are always trying to turn PKD into techno-thrillers. Maybe a Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan could do it..."

I disgree with Mike.. i thought A Scanner Darkly was magnificent and very close to the source material. The rotoscoping worked really well, probably due to the crazyness of the dialogue.

Finally i thought each of the actors/resses done a great job.


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Simon (toastermantis) | 14 comments I second "A Scanner Darkly" because how faithful an adaptation it is. "Screamers" is also pretty underrated indeed.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Guys,
I'm with you on the AUTHENTICITY OF SCANNERS script, it felt (though I haven't checked) like a word for word adaptation (rare indeed). But the acting was overdone, and I (personally) was more a fan of the rougher visual trick in Linklater's earlier picture WAKING LIFE. Scanner's was just 'too clean'.


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Alan (Alan_N) | 3 comments Wyrdskein,
you could always just phone Kate Beckinsale up and ask her out for a drink the next time she's in your town. Just man up.

:)

K.


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Brad | 1 comments It's hard to put a Philip K Dick story on the screen and get the same feeling. The only one that worked for me was A Scanner Darkly.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments AND... nobody flew any commercial jetliners into any buildings at the end of it - oh, wait, that might have been a Steven King (Richard Bachman) story RUNNING MAN.

The book ends with the plane crashing into the tower, resulting in the deaths of Richards and Killian. The novel comes to a close with the description, "...and it rained fire twenty blocks away."

No, it was the Scroll of Gratitude: that was it.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments PS: whatever happened to the (potentially most PKD-ian) film BRANDED (2012)?

Anybody see it?

The trailer rocked ... http://mikephilbin.blogspot.co.uk/201...


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Byron  'Giggsy' Paul (giggsy) | 110 comments Mod
I wouldn't say BRANDED was bad, but it failed to impress me or be very memorable.

It's at least good enough I'd recommend you try to catch an airing or find a cheap rental and decide for yourself, I'm sure somebody else here may like it much more than me, but the movie wasn't as interesting as it had potential to be.


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Hertzan Chimera (HertzanChimera) | 225 comments Giggsy,
not good news, BRANDED sucked how?
I was hoping it was gonna rawk!

:)


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