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Book Issues > Please delete this book! (pt. 12)

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vicki_girl | 2751 comments RE #304: Yep. Got it. :)


Lobstergirl | 3238 comments I'm going to guess this should be "The Gamble" and combined with that work, and deleted? No work by this title is listed on Worldcat. Needs super.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...


Johanness (FictionWriter16) | 1 comments Yes, I think you're quite right with that one!


Paula (Paulaan) | 4286 comments Got 306


message 306: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
ping!


Paula (Paulaan) | 4286 comments Got 311


message 310: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Why?


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Ana (anasmith) | 129 comments Ana wrote:"This is a weird one. There is no record anywhere that a story/book with that name actually exists (I checked the anthologies as well). I googled it, found nothing except for a mention on this site: http://getglue.com/books/into_dark/ch... (which is highly suspicious). And the only data, here on GR, is the title and the author:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/78...


Ana wrote: "#117

Peter wrote: "Did anyone think of contacting alice, who the Librarians Change log shows as responsible for the data? That was what was recommended to me in a similar situation. "."


The librarian just answered my message, stating that she doesn't remember and that she even emailed the author who answered that there's no book/story by that name. So I would be grateful if a super could delete this book:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/78...


message 312: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
That's a lot of ratings to just zap. Any notion on what it could be merged into?


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Ana (anasmith) | 129 comments Dark Prince, the first in Feehan's "Dark" series. With the title, it's the best I can do. I just have no idea how a nonexistent book can have so many ratings!


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments rivka wrote: "That's a lot of ratings to just zap. Any notion on what it could be merged into?"

It was separated from another work, according to change log entry Sep 20, 2011 12:55pm (#9485018), by Carolyn Ford. Maybe someone at GR could look up the record and see what it was separated from, or someone could contact Carolyn Ford.


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Mina Saher (MinaSaher) | 6 comments no isbn, not published, the author (me) won't publish it.


message 316: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
مينا wrote: "no isbn, not published, the author (me) won't publish it."

Publication was originally planned for later in 2012 but has now been cancelled?


message 317: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (last edited Apr 23, 2012 02:41PM) (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Ana wrote: "Dark Prince, the first in Feehan's "Dark" series."

Yeah, that makes sense. Edit: done.


Ana wrote: "I just have no idea how a nonexistent book can have so many ratings!"

The word "fan" original comes from the word "fanatic". ;)


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Mina Saher (MinaSaher) | 6 comments yes, it has been cancelled.


message 319: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Ok, got 313/319/322.


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Tom | 73 comments Missing and/or incomplete isbn.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

[the second one resembles 3 other editions]


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Tom wrote: "Missing and/or incomplete isbn.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

[the second one resembles 3 other editions]"


The second one matches this edition at WorldCat:http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/123959155. This ISBN 13 had been put in the ISBN 10 slot. However, this edition matches http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32..., except for changes made by onix


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Tom wrote: "Missing and/or incomplete isbn."

Is this to be a valid reason for deleting books?


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Tom wrote: "http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13..."


WorldCat lists 14 editions for this book. Given that both have ratings, is it likely that these represent 2 of the 4 editions not listed on GR?


Lobstergirl | 3238 comments Peter wrote: "Tom wrote: "Missing and/or incomplete isbn."

Is this to be a valid reason for deleting books?"


No, for correcting them. It's sometimes a case of an ISBN 13 being shoved into the ISBN 10 slot, which is easily remediable; or it's a case of an ISBN-less "placeholder" which a user created before they knew what the book's ISBN was, so they could shelve it. If these have 5+ ratings, a super will need to come along and merge and delete them.


vicki_girl | 2751 comments Got 324 & 325.


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "Peter wrote: Is this to be a valid reason for deleting books?"

No, for correcting them. It's sometimes a case of an ISBN 13 being shoved into the ISBN 10 slot, which is easily remediable; or it's a case of an ISBN-less "placeholder" which a user created before they knew what the book's ISBN was, so they could shelve it. If these have 5+ ratings, a super will need to come along and merge and delete them. "


So you are saying that the supers have a responsibility to make absolutely sure that a book to be deleted is really merged with the correct edition, and that books that actually have no ISBN are not deleted.


message 328: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (last edited Apr 23, 2012 09:04PM) (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Peter, have we not had this exact conversation already?

Edit: In this thread, even?


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Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments rivka wrote: "Peter, have we not had this exact conversation already?"

I don't believe so. However, I don't see a need to continue it if my statement is correct. If it is not correct, I'd like it to be corrected.

Edit: I think you are referring to the posts on March 29, which were on a similar, but slightly different issue.


message 330: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
If you are asking a general question, superlibrarians are all aware of their responsibility and do not take it lightly. I don't think it is necessary to repeatedly drive that point home.

If you have an issue with a specific super, please either message them directly, or contact me privately.

If it's me you have an issue with, you are welcome to contact Kara or Patrick, both of whom are listed on the the About Us page.


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments rivka wrote: "If you are asking a general question, superlibrarians are all aware of their responsibility and do not take it lightly. I don't think it is necessary to repeatedly drive that point home."

I'm sorry. I did not mean offense.

Yes, I was asking for my own edification. I take the (volunteer) work I do here very seriously, and I posit that others do as well. I am sure that there is a lot that goes on behind the screen of which I know nothing.

I also probably should apologize for the way I phrase and emphasize things. I can write well but am more at home writing code than using English. Despite moderating another group, I am not really at home with bulletin board style chat; I never had time for it before I retired. I hope this makes the situation clearer.


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Tom | 73 comments Please delete then combine. Already separated. Thanks

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

Also, the most popular edition is missing isbn and cover art is different. It may have been pre-release placeholder. If you wish, merge it into the hardcover I separated out.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/99...


message 333: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (last edited Apr 23, 2012 11:57PM) (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Tom wrote: "Please delete then combine. Already separated. Thanks

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13..."


Done. I don't think the most popular edition needs deletion. (It might be an alternate-cover edition, for instance. Unless someone knows that cover was never published?)


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rivka | 21236 comments Mod
Peter wrote: "I also probably should apologize for the way I phrase and emphasize things. I can write well but am more at home writing code than using English."

Fair enough. :)


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Tom | 73 comments Isbn 10 placed into the 13 causing duplication. Can be merged with more popular edition.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32...


Renske | 2048 comments Needs super
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...

After that the other editon needs to be combined with http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/72...


Ninja Neko (Ninja_Neko) | 134 comments Can a super delete this placeholder for a 9 volume series: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34...
I've combined it with the first volume of the series.


vicki_girl | 2751 comments Got 339 - 341. :)


Ninja Neko (Ninja_Neko) | 134 comments Thanks! Can a super delete this one as well? http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77... The title is misspelled & it doesn't have an ISBN.


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rivka | 21236 comments Mod
zap!


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Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Ninja Neko wrote: "Thanks! Can a super delete this one as well? http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77... The title is misspelled & it doesn't have an ISBN."

Since this book was first published in 1962, it may be a pre-ISBN edition.


message 342: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 21236 comments Mod
It had no info -- no pub date, no publisher, no cover, no page number. Its edit history showed that it was initially added with not only a misspelled title, but a misspelled author as well.


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rivka | 21236 comments Mod
poof!


Lobstergirl | 3238 comments I'm pretty sure we're not deleting those yet.


Lenny | 3 comments ok so stop posting them? Because i'm finding quite a bit.


message 348: by Lobstergirl (last edited Apr 25, 2012 12:01AM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 3238 comments Yes, stop posting them. There are thousands of them still in the database with identifiable data invisible to the naked eye, but I think there's still some possibility they can be matched to their correct data.


Lenny | 3 comments alright, my apologies


Peter (pete_C) | 388 comments Lenny wrote: "Super needed for the following as there is no information to recover these....

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12......"


A couple of them had some information with them to help, which I added. Hope this helps identify them.

Lobstergirl wrote: "I'm pretty sure we're not deleting those yet."

I certainly hope not. Maybe someone else can spot more information to rescue them.


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