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message 51: by Vanessa (last edited Oct 03, 2011 09:32PM) (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Went into the post office today to post a $1(Aust dollars) letter and what did they have there?! Two three packs of Jodi Picoult books on special! Went into post a $1 letter and ended up walking out with six new books and having spent nearly nearly $55! Oops!


message 52: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments LOL! Oh, dear! Vanessa, you are a book addict. (Takes one to know one.) I never heard of teh PO having books nearby. Is it located in a drugstore or - like mine - a Halmark store?


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CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Wow Vanessa! I thought AusPost only did kids' books? Will have to check them out next time I'm in there!


message 54: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "LOL! Oh, dear! Vanessa, you are a book addict. (Takes one to know one.) I never heard of teh PO having books nearby. Is it located in a drugstore or - like mine - a Halmark store?"

Our post offices here in Aust have all kinds of things out and sell all kinds of things like cards, stationary, gift cards etc. They have books too but only just certain random ones. They don;t stock anything in particular. Just my luck today they had two packs of Jodi Picoult books there! I joked with the guy that he must've known I was coming in!


message 55: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments That's pretty neat!


message 56: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Carob wrote: "Wow Vanessa! I thought AusPost only did kids' books? Will have to check them out next time I'm in there!"

Yeh do it but don;t get sucked into buying something like I did! Just my luck I;ve just read a Jodi Picoult book and LOVED it! I;ve never read one before I read that one! They also had the Jeremy somebody books out Recently. I'm not sure what his last name is but from the show Top Gear. I think they just stock random books and just my luck today they had these one's!


message 57: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Jeremy Clarkson. We love Top Gear at home. I'm not into cars, but those lads crack me up!

I've recently spent a bunch of money on books for my daughter (I refuse to buy her ebooks, I want her to really experience books) and couldn't beleive how expensive they'd gotten. Especially when I know she'll go through them in less than a week!


message 58: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments That''s him! Jeremy Clarkson! Yeh, they are real funny. Good on you for not getting ebooks for your daughter. I think it is so sad the fact that even books now are going onto computers. good on you for wanting to experience REAL books. I think it should be like this.


message 59: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Oh no Vanessa, lol! I wasn't clear. I am ALL about eBooks, for me. I truly would cry if my ereader was to get wrecked. I have over 1250 ebooks on my external hardrive. There's no way I could fit that many books in my house, let alone on my budget and our local library kinda sucks.

But my daughter is only 7, and even though she's going through books like they're going out of style, and costing me a packet to boot, I want her to love the experience of the books just a much as the stories. But I can foresee that she might have her own eReader by the time she starts high-school. I'd rather give a teenager an eReader than a mobile phone, but that's another rant, lol!


message 60: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "That's pretty neat!"

Lisa Kay wrote: "That's pretty neat!"

Yeh it's pretty cool but not when you walk in to spend $1 and walk out spending nearly $60!


message 61: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Carob wrote: "Oh no Vanessa, lol! I wasn't clear. I am ALL about eBooks, for me. I truly would cry if my ereader was to get wrecked. I have over 1250 ebooks on my external hardrive. There's no way I could fit th..."

Oh okay! I like the old fashioned books myself but don;t have an e-reader. Is that a Kindle or like a Kindle? You must be from the country too. I'm from the city and out=r library rocks! I couldn;t live in the country! Couldn;t do a big city like Sydney or Melbourne but country is too small and quiet for me. That;s why I like Adelaide! Just perfect! and I love Darwin too! My second home! Ever been to these two places?


message 62: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Yeah, I'm in a rural town near the Coast. It has it's pros and cons like everywhere else, I guess. I have a family and there's nothing but benefits for them by being here, but I grew up in Sydney, and I miss it so much sometimes it's an ache. It is such a vibrant, gorgeous city! I used to be a business trainer (before kids) and did some business travel to Adelaide some years back. I remember stunning sunsets and a great trip to the wine region, but I was in a strange city on my own, so pretty sure I didn't get a real feel for the city. Darwin is on my bucket list. I keep hearing it's a hoot.


message 63: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Darwin;s awesome! I'd love to live there. I'm going there in a few weeks actually. Just for a getawy. If youevr get the chance, goto Darwin! It;s awesome!


message 64: by CaroB (last edited Oct 06, 2011 01:12PM) (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments In light of yesterday's news about the death of Apple CEO and technology visionary Steve Jobs, I thought I'd share this little quote I saw on facebook from him:

"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. " - Steve Jobs



message 65: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments Carob wrote: "In light of yesterday's news about the death of Apple CEO and technology visionary Steve Jobs, I thought I'd share this little quote I saw on facebook from him:

"Remembering that I'll be dead soo..."


That's a great quote.


message 66: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Hi everyone,

I;ve decided to come out of hiding! This is me! Nice to meet you all!


message 67: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments Hi, Vanessa! Nice to see you on your avatar. :)


message 68: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments Always fun to put a face with a name


message 69: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Like your hair Vanessa, looks funky.


message 70: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "Hi, Vanessa! Nice to see you on your avatar. :)"

Sorry Liss Kay but what's an Avatar? Maybe we refer it to something else over here?


message 71: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Carob wrote: "Like your hair Vanessa, looks funky."

Thanks Carob. I only just got it all cut off recently. I like it lot better. Alit more easier to handle


message 72: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Vanessa wrote: "Carob wrote: "Like your hair Vanessa, looks funky."

Thanks Carob. I only just got it all cut off recently. I like it lot better. Alit more easier to handle"


This is also actually after it;s done! first thingin the morning it doesn;t look like this!


message 73: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Vanessa, an Avatar is the common name on the web for the picture you use to represent yourself. Not a US thing, an Internet thing :-) So my Avatar is a flattering caricature of me, and your avatar is a photo.

Still trying to figure out why the movie Avatar was called that :-)


message 74: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Carob wrote: "Vanessa, an Avatar is the common name on the web for the picture you use to represent yourself. Not a US thing, an Internet thing :-) So my Avatar is a flattering caricature of me, and your avatar ..."

Thanks Carob! Yeh, I wonder why they did call the movie that!


message 75: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Just started Jodi Picoult Hrvesting the Heart. Can;t wait to get into it!


message 76: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments From Wiki:
In computing, an avatar is the graphical representation of the user or the user's alter ego or character. It may take either a three-dimensional form, as in games or virtual worlds, or a two-dimensional form as an icon in Internet forums and other online communities. It can also refer to a text construct found on early systems such as MUDs. It is an object representing the user. The term "avatar" can also refer to the personality connected with the screen name, or handle, of an Internet user.



message 77: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Thanks Lisa Kay:-)


message 78: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Thankyou!


message 79: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments I just have to share this article!

http://news.yahoo.com/cyclops-shark-o...


message 80: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments oh EWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Love it. They described it well. It is creepy cute!


message 81: by Anna (new)

Anna Wadlow (awadlow42) | 226 comments CaroB wrote: "Kit★ wrote: "Lol, you had me worried for a second! ;)"

LOL! I couldn't resist the opportunity, I've got to try to curb the impulses :-D"


I think its great that you did that,considered it myself...LOL


message 82: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments Is Kindle Format 8 KF8 – and its inevitable copycats – the final nail in the coffin for paper books?



http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapte...


message 83: by Michelle (last edited Oct 25, 2011 12:03PM) (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments Romance novels—the bread that intoxicates the soul

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news...

Unlike many young people in western countries who party after school or work or during their days off, a large number of women in Taiwan grow up reading romance novels on the couch in the living room, immersing themselves in a world with an enchantingly sweet air that tastes like strawberries, the stories told with playful words packaged with pretty images and yet less than likely storylines.

There are in general two categories of romantic novels to be found in the hands of readers in Taiwan—those that are imported from the West, and those composed by local writers.


Foreign and translated works have had a good share of the Taiwanese romance novel market since the 1950s. Narratives featuring strange lands, aristocrats or abandoned castles and Gothic gardens within a specific historical time zone have fed the souls of many female readers. Meanwhile, local romances were also favored.


The origin of contemporary local romantic novels can be traced back to the early 1900s, when the “mandarin duck and butterfly” school emerged as a popular genre in China. A blend of diverse themes featuring upper-class young men and women and romantic elements, the works of the genre were written in plain Chinese, in contrast to the more elevated style favored by the elite and commonly used in writing at the time.


The genre soon became popular, mostly among female readers, and was considered a profit-making business. Despite the fact that it was widely received, however, it faced criticism from the elite, who attacked the works for their insubstantial, trifling “whine”, and a writing style that was deemed out-of-date and rough.


Romantic stories were also named “Saturdays” because they mostly made their appearance in the Saturday weeklies.


The genre gradually lost ground after the 1949 Chinese Civil War in China, however, when literature was made to mainly serve political purposes. Nevertheless, it survived and eventually blossomed in Hong Kong and Taiwan.


One legendary contemporary romance novelist is Chiung Yao, whose works are so popular that they have been adapted and re-adapted into movies and TV series.


Chiung Yao dominated the Mandarin romance market before the 1980s, and remains influential even today. Huan Zhu Ge Ge, meaning Princess Pearl in Mandarin, is one of her recent masterpieces.


The plotline of Huan Zhu Ge Ge circles around Princess Huan Zhu in the reign of the Emperor Qianlong during the Qing Dynasty, telling of love stories and repartees of the aristocrats in their prime. The small-screen adaptation and remake and the novel itself have achieved tremendous success across Asia.



Book-rental business— a major distribution channel for romance novels


The book-rental store, where readers can read books or take the books home for several days for a modest rental fee, has been a major channel for distribution of romance novels. Over the years the book-rental business, which originated in Japan, has evolved into comprehensive chain stores that provide various services from the Internet as well as rental books and DVDs, plus food and beverages for complete service, thus attracting different groups of people.


According to Hsu, a book-rental store owner in the Danshui District of New Taipei City, romantic novels bring in female customers of a wide age range, from teens to middle-aged married women.


On the other hand, the emergence and blooming of chain bookstores like Kingstone and Eslite in the 1980s in Taiwan were a huge help in the distribution of literary works. Chiung Yao’s contemporaries, mostly female, did not receive as much as attention as she did. With the help of these large book distributors, romantic novels get more exposure in the market and thus better sales.


To boost sales and to meet market demand, local publishers adapted the packaging and marketing strategies of imported romances—standardizing and mass producing romantic novels, and expanding supply beyond book stores.


According to an estimate made in the 2000s, romance novel publishers offered an average of about a thousand titles per month. These books, many written by less well-known writers or new recruits, are sometimes subject to criticism for their amateur quality and typical narratives, as well as debauchery that has started to emerge in recent years as local works are influenced by imported novels such as those published by Harlequin. Some critics even refer to the novels as “women’s soft core pornography.”


The Danshui book-rental store owner says he longer stocks his store with imported romance novels because “they are more expensive, and are often stolen or never returned.”


This may also indicate that the quality of local works has deteriorated—they are much less collectable than imported titles.


As romantic and entertaining as the novels may seem, readers are aware of what they are getting from the stories.


“The narratives are just too fancy,” says long-time reader Cindy Lee, “I think they are all made up.”


Cindy said she may fantasize herself as one of the characters in stories with a happy ending, but “they are just too good to be true.”


Besides being too idealistic, the stories often follow certain patterns or formulae. Take local novels for example, the scenes are often set in modern urban landscape, or during some historical time, where a handsome, rich upper-class young man falls helplessly in love with a girl-next-door with minor character defects such as overeating or forgetfulness.


Cindy readily admits the stories are all very similar. “I just borrow them from libraries,” she says. “I wouldn’t want to read the same stories again.”


Yidi Lee, another female fan of romances, says she would not spend money collecting the books, and both Yidi and Cindy agree that the beautiful covers do not really affect whether they like the books or not, since they all look the same, with characters that have perfect figures and faces posing for attention.


Despite various criticisms, the industry associated with romance novels remains robust in Taiwan. One reason may be that the “love” element is as indispensable to the soul as bread to the body.


“I guess the drive for me to devour the books is to satisfy, in some way, my expectations of an ideal love life,” said Cindy.


The stories also create a world of fantasy that is easy to access.


“The stories entertain me whenever I feel like it and wherever I am,” says Yidi Lee.


Courtesy of culture.tw

http://www.culture.tw/index.php



message 84: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments This might interest those of you that like to go shopping on Black Friday:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wal-mar...


message 85: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 3219 comments I saw this article in another group and wanted to share it here. It'll definitely appeal to the anti- ereader people, LOL!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/lo...


message 86: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments Great article, ✿M✿! Even though I'm hoping for a Kindle Fire for Christmas, my first love is paperback. For all the reasons he listed. Love hunting in bookstores too and hate to see them closing. When my Kindle for PC wasn't working for almost a month, I freaked. And, I remember Kit★ talking in this group about all our VHS tapes becoming obsolete. Makes me think.


message 87: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments VHS? What's VHS? LOL just kidding :). I still have a VCR for the kids to watch old Disney VHS movies on. Now Beta Max is obsolete!


message 88: by Vanessa (last edited Jan 01, 2012 02:59AM) (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments HI everyone, I know I haven't been on here for a while but I just want to say I hope everyone had a great christmas and a really good new year! I hope everyone has an awesome year and I wish you all the very very best. See you on here soon and hope you are all well x o


message 89: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments Thanks, Vanessa! Happy New Year to you and yours!


message 90: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments I've been MIA too Vanessa, been crazy busy. Looking forward to a slow down and some good books in my near future. Happy New Year!


message 91: by Lisa Kay, Moderator (new)

Lisa Kay (LisaKayAliceMaria) | 18822 comments Welcome back, Tracey! Happy New Year!


message 92: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa (IHaveAlwaysLovedToRead) | 87 comments Thankyou! My mum got a kindle for christmas too and I can;t work oput how to use the damn thing! Happy new year everyone!


message 93: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Vanessa, I have a kindle. Feel free to send me a message through the GR inbox if you have any questions about it.

Great to have you back as well Tracey :-) How's your laptop working out? Or was it a tablet?


message 94: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments A laptop. And I LOVE it!!! Thanks for asking :). Actually read a book on it the other day Coffee with Thunderbolts by Marianne G. Petrino


message 95: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Just read the synopsis for that, sounds intriguing! And kudos on the laptop, I'm trying to not go an uncivilised shade of envious green. I really want one.


message 96: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments I must give credit where it's due. My husband stood outside in the cold for 6 hours to get me that laptop on black Friday :). I've been super productive since getting it. I finished, submitted and released my second book Love's Destiny (Love Trilogy) by Tracey Smith
Crazy excited!


message 97: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments ohmygosh, that's fantastic! Congrats, no wonder we've not seen you here as much!


message 98: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments Yeah I've been lost inside my laptop :) I get kinda OCD when I'm writing don't do much else :). But I'm back and ready to start a buddy read anything good coming up that you would recommend?


message 99: by CaroB (new)

CaroB (CarobSimms) | 5551 comments Hmmm, would One Day interest you, Tracey? It doesn't start til the end of the month.


message 100: by Tracey (new)

Tracey Smith | 415 comments Definitely intrigued! I'm in. Thanks CaroB!


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