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message 1: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
What do you think "Love" is?


message 2: by Michelle, Reality is twisted fantasy. (new)

Michelle | 161 comments Mod
I believe love is a neccessity in life. People tend to find it for a lifetime, some just already know who it is, and is happy. but no matter what, love is important. A person who has a deep understanding of you, and knows all your flaws, and loves you just the way you are.

I haven't found him yet, but I can wait. If it's person who I deeply care about, and loves me back, then I'll be great throughtout my lifetime.

:)


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

I read something that said "Love is Nature's way of tricking us into reproduction."
I really really don't want to believe that, but is there a kernel of truth there?


message 4: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
I actually like that. "Love is nature's way of tricking us." but wouldn't it be lust instead of love?


message 5: by Brooke (new)

Brooke | 663 comments just a question, does anyone believe in love at first sight?


message 6: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
Judging by all the YA books out there that have the main character(mostly female) and her boy toy meeting some one out there believes in it very strongly.

As for me, I believe in attraction at first sight but love, nope. You can love some one as a human but how can you fall in love with someone at first sight?


message 7: by Brooke (new)

Brooke | 663 comments i know it doesn't make sense to me either. thats why i hate books sometimes. i mean, things like twilight and all the lovey dovey stuff, never happens. and it just leads people to believe that it actually does


message 8: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
Lol. true, I think that is why they call it fiction. Fiction is great escape from reality though, sometimes it is nice to think there is such a thing in this lifetime.

I have a love hate relationship with Disney movies for this reason too. The little mermaid, Aladdin, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, and the list goes on. Most of the Disney princess movies are love at first sight. It drives me crazy.


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't even think that love at first sight exists. Unless you're some like freaky mind reader, all that you're falling for is their appearance when you don't know anything about the real person. Love at first sight just irritates me to no end.


message 10: by Brooke (new)

Brooke | 663 comments i know my mom has a daycare and they watch those movies all the time. it gets rather annoying. i perfer spongebob


message 11: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (alwaysrebecca) | 635 comments I don't believe in love at first sight either. I believe you have to know someone really well and beable to acept all their faults and still love them for it to truly be love.


message 12: by Isreal (new)

Isreal I think that we have not evolved enough to feel that we can 'love' and that we are taught the wrong way. We are taught to love with our eyes and ears...when the man stops making the woman feel good and visa versa then they go looking for it else where...RE-education can only combat this and having a firm foundation in your self is key...That is the only way...True love can never be broken...
Right now though...>love is only seen through the eyes and leaves through them...


message 13: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
I don't believe that. It's not like we can help the way we are. Women are auditory and men are visual. We like to hear it and men like to see it. Humans are just, in our uncouncious insecure creatures. We need the reassurance that we are loved. If not with words then actions. If some one is truly in love then they know that they are loved and vice versa but it is still nice to let your partner know how much they mean to you reguardless.


message 14: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments 'Love' is something strong, something that cannot hold us down. That learns and yearns for physical and emotion touch, that will never let us down. Love is something that is felt and pumps within us to that someone special. It is the foundation of a relationship as well as communication. 'Love' is a dying spirit that new generations just take for granted when they whisper it to someone. In all, 'love' to me is a spirit that brings us closer and bonds us to the outside world. It is the key to success and the layers of our breath that interconnects with everything in our life or in our spirit world. It creates this sense of well-being and health that we take for granted. It brings us to a new definition, a new depth in our past society.'Love at first sight?' it depends, love at first sight blinds us and tricks our subconscious minds into something that we cannot control, but love at a distance is something that tricks our hearts and does not break them as much as love at first sight. love at a distance is something that we weigh both sides and find out a connection with that person rather than to say 'I love you'. It is hard to determine what love really is. It is hard to relate everyone to love when we are different and so much that we haven't seen yet. Love is out there underneath that Cotton Candi Cloud waiting for its time to shine on us and guides us to that special heartbeat that is in sync with us.


message 15: by Isreal (new)

Isreal Yes...thanks for both of your responses...You must realize that men and women are evolving...which means we are both visual and auditory(christa) um, wolf spirit, I am still trying to grasp your idea, I like that you say you can not define love...In the end, I am 32 and I understand it a 'little' bit better...Love is seen and heard through the eyes and leaves as so...great conversation.


message 16: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments THank you. Ask me what you are having a hard time to grasp and I will explain it more in depth. =)


message 17: by Isreal (new)

Isreal You already explained your idea is not in depth cause your still unsure. Your quote(It is hard to determine what love really is. )
reread what you wrote...and tell me what love is in one line...like I did..."Love comes through the eyes and ears and leaves through them as well" it feels like a sad statement that said and I wish to say it is more...maybe it is my fleeting experience that allows me to say this...


message 18: by wolf spirit (last edited Oct 21, 2010 01:43PM) (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments Okay. *reads* Love is the cherished moments,it is the source of all life, it is the very breath to which we hold our desires, it is the little details that create our life of joy and pain. Love is something that comes through with an open mind. It is the feeling of freedom soaring into the air. It is something that we share with our true love.


message 19: by Isreal (last edited Oct 21, 2010 01:52PM) (new)

Isreal Nice words for that...I wish that in practice it could as grand as you put it...

We are writers, you need to know...first and formost..we experience things in our writing that people want to read...We have to craft words in 'perfection' so that others will want to 'experience' it with us...
I have much experience in life and in writing in this area to craft wonderful words and to show it on paper... not all the time though...then I get into trouble as the woman usually gets angry with me or thinks I am not interested. I then have to realize that reality, fiction and life sometimes be mistaken for the same thing...Thus the idea that we are not evolved yet...


message 20: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments Really? Thank you Isreal. Yeah, reality can sometimes play a trick on us thinking that reality is fantasy and fantasy is reality. Have you ever had a dream and it felt so real that you didn't want to wake up from it or that this will be your last day? In reality it was just a fantasy.
I always wondered if our dreams are actually our reality and the fantasy is when we are awake.


message 21: by Isreal (new)

Isreal Um...I think that you should explore that further or maybe read less books and go out more and compare them together...

I did that and now I write all the time...and barely read...

thanks for the input


message 22: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
Nicely put wolf spirit. Love, a simple word that hold so much meaning.it is the one thing in life everyone seeks without even knowing.
I'm not understanding Isreal. How are not evolving?


message 23: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments I should explore this world. YOur welcome for the input.
THank you Christa.


message 24: by Isreal (new)

Isreal exploration of the fantasy and reality relm is much needed...I see people that only live in the reality world...I see people that only live in the fantasty...It is when the person can actually take the two apart and see them that evolution happens...otherwise we get a lot of paranoid shuts ins and people who hate the world and men and woman because their experience was not 'like' the book or the movie...I wish that we would choose to evolve and the creepers would seize to be because they understand what is going on...not living in some urban fantasy love story that is not true...This could go on...also the censorship of porn...etc..etc..The glamour stuff gets in the way and that is fantasy as well...
then again what do I know?
this is why it is a conversation and most wonderful one as well...
thank you christa...


message 25: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments well said Isreal.


message 26: by Isreal (new)

Isreal That saying in the bible says it well...love is patient, love is kind, not judgemental, etc..etc.
That would be so sweet to meet a partner like that...
That is worth all the words in a book...

thanks wolf spirit as well...


message 27: by wolf spirit (last edited Oct 21, 2010 02:56PM) (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments your welcome. I love the Bible's words


message 28: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (alwaysrebecca) | 635 comments I agree wolf spirit and isreal


message 29: by Isreal (new)

Isreal Yeah,

Too bad they are to interested in how the church looks than that reality of those words...


message 30: by Isreal (new)

Isreal thanks rebecca


message 31: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (alwaysrebecca) | 635 comments Your welcome


message 32: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments Thank you Rebecca. I actually go to a church and he preaches about the Lord Jesus and his words. Nothing about money, about what the church wants or anything like that.


message 33: by Isreal (new)

Isreal I go too, when I am bored to tell the truth...I like feeling of it...I wish I could have been in the time of jesus or buddha and talked with them...To actually have it all and have nothing...
Wolf spirit I do not mean to make you angry with these words...I think that you believing is great and it shows...


message 34: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments LIfe is too precious to get angry or offensive with every some thing. It is just a waste of time. Thank you Isreal...it does show...as spiritually it does within me....I wish I could have met Jesus and tell him all my troubles...my mistakes....my heartaches... and my life to which will never stop amazing me. =) I love being spiritual...it is a feeling of love....hate...pain...memory... and of what you believe in.


message 35: by Isreal (new)

Isreal yeah for sure...It is getting up in the morning and telling yourself that no matter bad happens as I long as I believe in love and the spirit everything will be ok...I learned a lot about myself and love in these last 3 years especially. I have learned to let go of your fears and to be great in the eyes of the spirit no matter how bad it gets...To believe, when there is none left. To stay strong when you are alone...I think I am grasping the meaning of these teachers now...I have lived wide life...I have seen so much and still I have love in my heart when I should have none...


message 36: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments That is great...i am trying to let go of my fear that keeps getting in the way...I don't know how to let go of that fear... the fear of speaking in front of people...the fear of what people think of me. It is hard for me...


message 37: by Isreal (new)

Isreal You need to do it and then do it again...and talk to others about it as well...I remember in high school, I practiced this piece on the flute for ever...literally and bombed it cause of stage fright...I burst into tears on stage in front of a lot of people...Later on, I was like, I was not afraid to cry and realized that a lot of people can not feel us, well actually no one can...I think...We can read into others through body language and stuff and you need to see that your emotions are what you think you need to be like...You need to be you, first and formost...I should have fear too in my life...I have people judge me all the time and in the end, it is me that has to make the choice to live or not...if not I would be doing nothing but fearing fear...In the end I lose...The only way to be successful is to go ahead and do it...Sometimes you fail or if you are me, a lot and in the end, if I feel that I succeeded, even if I did not get the part, or get published, that should be enough...Life is too stressful, I am angry that there is a holleywood and glamour that makes so many people angry and afraid of themselves...The wrong portait is being told to people and they paint the 'wrong' self portrait. I have lived and experienced so much with so many people that I see that they fear as well, maybe more than you...Just do it...as long as you are trying to get out there and as long as you keep trying...And do not be greedy and do not hurt others wrongfully or intentionally...tell the truth to them...In the end if they come after you and you are not guilty, you have nothing to fear...Anyway


message 38: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments Thank you Isreal...I will try the next time to use my emotions towards people and to be me and have no fear.


message 39: by Isreal (new)

Isreal Grand.


message 40: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
The one thing I don't like about this word is the way it is flung around so casually. You can say you love a person then turn around, I love that lamp, those shoes. I love the way it smells after it rains. We fling it around too often.


message 41: by Isreal (new)

Isreal right on christa...We fling a lot of words around that should me more around...We may be losing heart...
Reality for the aware is coming to an ever faster reality and the younger ones are awake not closed like the thousands of generations before them...


message 42: by Michelle, Reality is twisted fantasy. (new)

Michelle | 161 comments Mod
Christa wrote: "The one thing I don't like about this word is the way it is flung around so casually. You can say you love a person then turn around, I love that lamp, those shoes. I love the way it smells after i..."

I could not agree with you more. How can you fling around the powerful word of love? It's really childish,and I believe it should be taken cautionsly and used for someone you really love. I don't say "I love you" to anyone. Just my family,and friends who are considered family. :)

My quote of love. "Love is friendship on fire."


message 43: by Isreal (new)

Isreal Well said Michelle, you summed it up nicely!

I will take that one and may it from time to time, if you do not mind.

'Love makes me think of exciting thing in life, opening presents when I was a child, Great food and meeting that person that I have not met yet' See, I am far from that and my idea is wacked too...'love comes from the eyes and leaves from the eyes'
Thanks .


message 44: by Michelle, Reality is twisted fantasy. (new)

Michelle | 161 comments Mod
Thanks Isreal! :)

I like those! Really good!


message 45: by Isreal (new)

Isreal thanks


message 46: by wolf spirit (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments I agree with you christa. We use alot of love for everything and not for the right thing, the right person, and we just don't see eye to eye.

If we knew what love truly is then I believe that it will change the way we view everything in our life and as a result we all can relate to it as a person and not on materilize things.


message 47: by Isreal (new)

Isreal I am still in love with the idea of falling in love though...That is what keeps me going...


message 48: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
This is something I don't understand, how can someone spend so much time and energy trying to find their "soul mate" or the "love of their life." It's what they live to do like they are hunting for it but once they find it, they don't know what to do with it. If finding it is what keeps you going then what will happen when you find it?


message 49: by wolf spirit (last edited Oct 27, 2010 04:07PM) (new)

wolf spirit | 604 comments If I found my soul mate, my love of my other half that completes my soul. I wounldn't know what to do. I would be so joious that I found him, but in the back of my mind I wonder if this is what I should have been looking for. I mean, in everything in life once we find that certain thing that we want, we just want to throw it away as if it is trash and what if it is the samething when someone finds their soulmate.

I would rejoice and find myself reading and enjoying his company until our time is up.


I hope this makes sence to everyone.


message 50: by Christa, The Inverted Pessimist (new)

Christa (christabella) | 442 comments Mod
exactly! I love the way you put that wolf spirit, the part of where when we find it we throw it away. If we finally find what we have been seeking, in love, in anything. Shouldn't we be content? Cherish it? Why are we so quick to throw it away?
We can find a bag of sapphires on the side of the street and abandon it because something beside it or a little away sparkles like dimonds.

*sorry about the rant, I went a little off the topic.*


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