Steampunk, New Weird, Bizarro, Scifi, Fantasy Book Group discussion

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Chakara | 716 comments Hola its me Chakara Im interested in what books everyone has bought or checked out or borrowed recently.


Chakara | 716 comments I just came back from a huge used book sale thousands of books there I tell ya. I got all these books for 9 dollars :)

Summer Knight - Jim Butcher
Storm Front- Jim Butcher
Angels & Demons- Dan Brown
Domes of Fire- David Eddings
The Shining Ones- David Eddings
The Eye of the World- Robert Jordan
Lover Unbound-JR Ward
Writing for Children & Teenagers - Arnold Madison
Anna Karenina- Leo Tolstoy


Amanda i recently pre-ordered Mieville's New book Kraken from amazon and i want Gene Wolfe's new one wicked bad!


Chakara | 716 comments Krista wrote: "Just got in the mail (from Amazon):

Believable Characters: Creating with Enneagrams

[bookcover:The Wave in the Mind: Talks and Essays on the Writer, the Reader, and the Imaginatio..."


Omg I so want this book. Im a plot writer I always come u with what I want them to be doing first but I feel it makes my characters weak.


Krista | 102 comments I'm already finding it helpful and I've only had it a day.

Do you know anything about Enneagrams? There's lots of free info on the internet. Free tests, too.


Chakara | 716 comments Krista wrote: "I'm already finding it helpful and I've only had it a day.

Do you know anything about Enneagrams? There's lots of free info on the internet. Free tests, too."


Yes we used work sheets and character interviews in my Creative Writing class that was so long ago and I find that they don't help me as well as they used to.


Krista | 102 comments Using Enneagram personality types? If you still have those worksheets, I'd love to see them!


Chakara | 716 comments Oh no sorry I meant Character worksheets. Got confused :(. I dont think ive worked with Enneagrams


Amanda Just ordered Kraken from amazon. So excited to get it!!


Krista | 102 comments Amanda, I've never read China Mieville, but that sounds like something I'd enjoy. I hope it's as good as it sounds!


message 12: by Amanda (last edited May 07, 2010 10:34am) (new)

Amanda He's one of my top 3 fav authors ever! He's an amazingly talented storyteller. I love his books! i'm ordering Kraken from amazon.uk because it doesn't come out in the US til the end of June or something and i just can't wait that long.

If u want to try one of his books, i'd recommend u start with Perdido Street Station, it's the first of three books he wrote set in the world of bas-lag.

His most recent book is The City & The City but it's really not representative of the majority of his work. It's so completely different from his other stuff. I've heard he wrote it for his mother shortly before she died and she loved crime fiction. I loved it but not as much as any of his other books


Krista | 102 comments Thanks for the recommendation! I'll have to look into Perdido Street Station.


Chakara | 716 comments I haven't been getting many books form trading or buying but mostly from the library.
New from trade:
A Game of Thrones
The Court of Air-Stephen Hunt
From library:
Magic Study -Maria V Snyder( adult fantasy/alternate world this is the second book in the study series the first one is Poison Study Ixia is a place ruled by a Military dictator they call the commander.)
Fragile Eternity- Malissa Marr (3rd Wicked Lovely Book)
Impossible- Nancy Werlin
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Beautiful Creatures
Deadly Little Lies (2nd book in the Touch series,1rst book deadly little secrets)
The Otherworldlies (sounded different)


Amanda I recently got The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay and The Grand Ellipse(not sure why i got this 2nd one, not usually my type-think i was sucked in by the cover, but maybe it'll surprise me) and The Return of the Black Company which includes books (i think) 7 and 8 of a series i started a long time ago and hadn't been able to finish because one of them was out of print. They finally reprinted it in this edition so i can't wait to read the last 3 books in this series. Finally!


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Chakara | 716 comments Sounds really good now I try to look for books that I wouldn't normally read. I usually read YA because im very impatient and YA usually jumps right into the story giving you the back ground as you go along instead of adult which usually builds up to the action starting slow and moving on forward. If a book doesn't get me in the first 3 chaps I will not read it lol. Im looking forward to more steampunk and Bizzaro though :)


message 17: by Amanda (last edited May 28, 2010 06:22pm) (new)

Amanda I read a lot of YA at ur age too although i think there's many good adult books that get right into the action, but i see what u mean.


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Chakara | 716 comments Yes The Study Trilogy by Maria V Snyder is actually Adult Fantasy but sometimes you find it in Romance or YA because of its cross over potential she does a good job of connecting with different age groups. I love her play on magic too so much better and more mature than Middle Grades Harry Potter. Magic Study is the second book and I love there little magic school and what not it wasnt to much of that in the first book Poison study though.
When I was younger I actually would not touch YA I read alot of Adult AA but there arnt alot of those now days that dont repeat the same story that Im not trying to hear. There seems to be no imagination in those and you barely come across a AA author that can write Fantasy or Scifi. L.A Banks and Octavia Butler being the only two that come to mind.


Chakara | 716 comments I still find that most of the time I can still relate to the characters although they are mostly missing the reality of different races or they represent the races really wrong. Like I couldnt finish Dead Until Dark because when the Author would talk about Sookie or someone she was friends with the description would be so clear and nice but if there was a person of color it seemed the description was dismissive like 'she was a black girl' and thats it lol.When I read that I just couldn't get into the book anymore I love books where race isnt important they dont have to keep saying throughout the book this person is black or this person is white or this person is Asian and listing things they think that whole race must do.

Ps. this is so not the right form for this convo lol but im bored. :(


Mike Riley | 46 comments I think that is totally appropriate for this forum, just as other criticism of style or content.

I'm currently reading an older book (not among the genre of this forum) in which I keep seeing traces of hints that the central character is maybe black. I keep asking myself why it matters.

It's aggravating to me that I still carry around this reflexive mind-set that I basically always visualize the central character as anglo just because I am. Just about the time I think I don't have prejudices, I find out something new and unflattering about myself.

Oh, well, something to work on until I'm just totally perfect, I guess.

(Instead of mostly perfect, as I am now!)


Amanda yeah i think its fine for the topic too and i never pay to much attention to topics anyway. I'm always going off topic.

I know what u mean with books like that. I've been fortunate to not have read a book with that problem in a long time. What is the book ur reading Mike?


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Chakara | 716 comments There is a book YA that came out 2008/2009 idk I havent read it and its called Liar a lot of people bloggers and readers boycotted the book because the main character was supposed to be black but the character on the front cover wasn't. The Author herself had nothing to do with the cover but I do believe the publishers ended up pulling that cover off the shelves the new cover the girl still isnt as she is described in the book but I guess you could say a little closer.

Because of the Genre of books I prefer I usually view my characters in my mind as White even if the author doesn't say that character is white.

Main thing is I love a good book. Just every now and then I come across a Author that relies to much on race in their books and I just get totally turned off by that author.


Mike Riley | 46 comments Amanda wrote: "I know what u mean with books like that. I've been fortunate to not have read a book with that problem in a long time. What is the book ur reading Mike?
..."


It's YA thing titled "The Red Pyramid" by Rick Riordan that was cheap on Amazon for the Kindle. Okay so far.


Chakara | 716 comments Mike wrote: "Amanda wrote: "I know what u mean with books like that. I've been fortunate to not have read a book with that problem in a long time. What is the book ur reading Mike?
..."

It's YA thing titled..."


I was thinking about reading that.I love Egyptian Mythology. Actually I love Mythology all together. Its so interesting.


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Julia | 89 comments Chakara,

You mentioned Octavia Butler and LA Banks. Have you read Samuel R. Delany Babel-17? This is one of his more straightforward books. It won all sorts of awards when it was poblished in the early '60s.Dhalgren may be a bizarro book, it sure is weird! And good!
Also look for the science fiction of Steven Barnes and the horror of Tananarive Due Blood Brothers*, Charisma *My Soul to Keep*The Between*Tananarive Due
Also look for this wonderful anthology! Dark Matter: A Century of Speculative Fiction from the African Diaspora.

I've read several of Larbalestier's Magic or Madness books, but not Liar. Yet. The point is, as I remember it, her first person narrator was supposed to be an unreliable narrator, but according to the wrong book jacket she even lied about her color?

Well, no, her publisher thought more books would sell with a white face on the cover... Not when the writer forced them to pulp the whole run with a white girl on the cover, made them look bad, and got attention to her book.


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Chakara | 716 comments Julia wrote: "Chakara,

You mentioned Octavia Butler and LA Banks. Have you read Samuel R. Delany Babel-17? This is one of his more straightforward books. It won all sorts of awards when it was ..."


Thanx for the Recs Ill check them out and see if its something I would like.I have absolutely no problem with their being any race on a cover but I do understand peoples frustration with them sometimes. The book The Red Pyramid is about two kids that are of mixed races and I saw a review that said the book was great but if it becomes a movie and the children arn't of a mixture of races (which idk how you can tell really everyone is something different) that they should get the publishers lol. I really love books that dont rely much on race or create their own races . I feel like race isnt real its something that we have created and dealt with for so long that we believe that its everything. (if that makes sense).I don't even really like to read books that deal with black people who are are all about being this way and that way and using slang.

That's why I enjoy Eric Jerome Dickey Gideon series he is just a mixture of all races and nationalities he doesn't even know what he is actually and because of that I think he can relate better to everyone than some other African American characters.


Chakara | 716 comments Honestly I tried to read one Octavia butler book and it kinda bored me. I do want to give her another try though I think the book was called Fledgling.


Julia | 89 comments Fledgling was Butler's last book. I loved it, but by then I'd read all of her books and I knew what to expect from her. My favorites, that don't have Fledgeling's slow start are Wild Seed and Kindred.

Also her Parable of the Sower is pretty amazing.

Kindred* Wild Seed* Parable of the Sower* Fledgling*


Chakara | 716 comments ok cool thanks I plan on checking her out again.


Amanda Julia wrote: "Chakara,

You mentioned Octavia Butler and LA Banks. Have you read Samuel R. Delany Babel-17? This is one of his more straightforward books. It won all sorts of awards when it was ..."


I've got Dhalgren and been wanting to read it for so long. It's such a cult classic


Chakara | 716 comments Back to Hauling ! :) I went to the library today even though I shouldnt have with everything that I have going on right now. Possible new job,school starting and about 10 other library books to read before these.Any who they are :
Fever Crumb (The Hungry City Chronicles Prequel, #1)
Mythology  Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes
Hex Hall (Hex Hall, #1)
Inside Out
The Demonata #1  Lord Loss  Book 1 in the Demonata series
The Complete World of Greek Mythology


Chakara | 716 comments Im really excited about Fever Crumb! :)

Fever Crumb is a girl who has been adopted and raised by Dr. Crumb, a member of the order of Engineers, where she serves as apprentice. In a time and place where women are not seen as reasonable creatures, Fever is an anomaly, the only female to serve in the order. Soon though, she must say goodbye to Dr. Crumb-nearly the only person she's ever known-to assist archeologist Kit Solent on a top-secret project. As her work begins, Fever is plagued by memories that are not her own and Kit seems to have a particular interest in finding out what they are. Fever has also been singled out by city-dwellers who declare her part Scriven. The Scriveners, not human, ruled the city some years ago but were hunted down and killed in a victorious uprising by the people. If there are any remaining Scriven, they are to be eliminated. All Fever knows is what she's been told: that she is an orphan. Is Fever a Scriven? Whose memories does she hold? Is the mystery of Fever, adopted daughter of Dr. Crumb, the key to the secret that lies at the heart of London? Haunting, arresting, and astonishingly original, Fever Crumb will delight and surprise readers at every fast-paced, breathless turn.

Philip Reeve is the bestselling author of the Mortal Engines quartet and the highly acclaimed Here Lies Arthur. He lives in Dartmoor, England with his wife and son.


Mike Riley | 46 comments Chakara wrote: "Back to Hauling ! :) I went to the library today even though I shouldnt have with everything that I have going on right now. Possible new job,school starting and about 10 other library books to rea..."

Chakara, if you haven't read Edith Hamilton before, you will like it. She's very accessible, and the #1 authority on the Greek gods and Greek mythology. Morgan, our daughter read her Edith Hamilton book so many times it was in tatters.


Chakara | 716 comments Mike wrote: "Chakara wrote: "Back to Hauling ! :) I went to the library today even though I shouldnt have with everything that I have going on right now. Possible new job,school starting and about 10 other libr..."

Thanks Mike, I love mythology all though I've heard and grew up with Greek and Roman Mythology so I really want to find some books on different types. Like Celtic and Egyptian and Russian to start also maybe some Irish type Mythology or Lore. Sadly, my library has none of these so I will have to save up and buy them.


Chakara | 716 comments New book for my bday Spirit Bound (Vampire Academy, #5)


Amanda happy B-Day Chakara! Hope it was a good one! ;>


Chakara | 716 comments Thanx bday isnt until June 7th but I had money today so lol. I went to wally and they didnt have it so then i went to target and they had it :).


Amanda 2 new ones I'm getting, that i can't wait for: Adolf in Wonderland Hopefully it's some beastlygood bizzaro!

and

The Graveyard Book- i adore Gaiman and have been wanting to read this since before it came out, usually not too into YA/Children's books, but for Gaiman I'll happily make an exception. As my boyfriend loves him too we'll probably end up reading this aloud while on trips to town


Amanda Recently got The Walls of the Universe from pprbkswp


Krista | 102 comments Julia wrote: "Fledgling was Butler's last book. I loved it, but by then I'd read all of her books and I knew what to expect from her. My favorites, that don't have Fledgeling's slow start are [book:Wild Seed|523..."

Just finished Fledgling and really liked it. There were times when it felt a little slow, but midway through I was completely hooked.


Amanda WOOHOO! Leaving in a few min. to go to a 50,000 book sale. paperbacks are 50 cents and hardcovers $2. So excited even though i should really stay and do homework. I need a friggin' break! Will let u guys know what i come back wid


Krista | 102 comments Amanda, how'd the book sale go?


Chakara | 716 comments yaaay im back my interent was dww but instead of getting a wifi stick i got a new computer with the wifi in it and I just pay on the wifi every month :).


Chakara | 716 comments k, so today was pay day and I went to the used book store as well as target for their lil' sell they are having on some books :). This is what I got:
One for the Money
Two for the Dough
Destiny
Dhampir
Furies of Calderon
I also got two pyschology books for my classes.

Last week I got
The Morganville Vampires
The Awakening
The Reckoning
The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner: An Eclipse Novella

Smh I spend all my money after bills on books as you can see :(


Chakara | 716 comments I went library and used book store crazy lol.
The Agency - Historical Fiction YA
The Demons Lexicon
The Demons Covenant
Brightly Woven
The Dalai Lama An Open Heart
Rules of Attraction
The Irond Daughter
Dead Witch Walking
Fiction First Aid
Mistwood
White Cat
The Luxe
Raised by Wolves
The Dead Tossed Waves
Radiant Shadows
Beastly
Nevermore
A swiftly Tilting Planet- for our books I loved as child challenge
I'd Tell you I loved you but then Id have to kill you
Eight Grade Bites
Clockwork Angel
Perfect Chemistry

There are prob more but Im tired now lol


Chakara | 716 comments Oh I also picked up my own copies of Wicked Lovely and The Summoning to complete my collection for those books.


Chakara | 716 comments Recently got
Kissed By an Angel
The Maze Runner


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