I liked Babylon 5 at the time, it's probably hokey now, LOL
If it made me nauseous, I probably wouldn't have wanted to watch it either. OR I'd close my eyes, LOL

Jackie, I also missed out on Babylon 5 as well. I've got nothing against BSG, it was just the floating camera, made me nauseous.

Then you missed out on an awesome show. I couldn't care less about floating camera angles, the outstanding creative writing and phenomonal casting were enough to keep me happy for years. Just the fact that we had an intelligent program made me ecstatic.

I used to watch the original BSG. The floating camera angles on the remake turned me off on the show.

THE PLAN is out. Yeah baby, you know what I'm doing today.

Of course they know. I think that's why they do it, as if somehow we'll multiply and there'll be more people watching it. Idiots.

Ugh. Why would they do that? Don't they know how many people are just waiting for it? Stupid people...

WahWahWah, I'm crying! WTH is wrong with these program schedule planners?

Word is that The Plan's release date has been pushed back to 2010. No idea why.

No word on The Plan. Months ago I read on scifi.com that it'll air in 'the Fall' but who knows what that means. I REALLY want to see it.
I saw Caprica and it seems interesting. Not sure that'll become the phenomenon that BSG was, but since I'm in serious BSG withdrawal, I'll take it, LOL

So I've seen ads for Caprica (yay, January!) but haven't seen any for the Plan in a long time. I thought it was supposed to run in September, but September is almost done. Anyone know anything? All I can find is about the DVD release (in October, which I'll rent if it's not going to run) but nothing on a tv date.

I can't get the link to work, but thanks for the info. He's a fantastic actor, I'll be pleased to see him in Caprica.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/18/e...

James Marsters joins Caprica for at least 3 episodes.

I just watched the pilot for Caprica. I downloaded the torrent from:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2484828

It was tame compared to BSG, but it might be worth watching.

Enjoy! Don't read too many of the comments here if you don't want it spoiled.

I am finally watching 4.0! Loving it so far!

This is a good yet concise explanation of Mitrochondrial Eve from Wiki:

Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca) is the name given by researchers to the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, her mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is now found in all living humans: every mtDNA in every living person is derived from hers. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived at different times.

She is believed to have lived about 140,000 years ago in Eastern Africa: specifically, in what is now Ethiopia, Kenya, or Tanzania.

Mitochondrial Eve is the MRCA of all humans via the mitochondrial DNA pathway, not the unqualified MRCA of all humanity. All living humans can trace their ancestry back to the MRCA via at least one of their parents, but Mitochondrial Eve is defined via the maternal line. Therefore, she necessarily lived at least as long, though likely much longer, ago than the MRCA of all humanity.

The existence of Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam does not necessarily imply the existence of population bottlenecks or a first couple. They each may have lived within a large human population at different times.


For more, go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondri...

Mito eve is the one common ancestor of the female line, but it dosn't mean all the other lines died out, just mated with this line.

Jackie wrote: "Bronwyn:
It does sound ridiculous when it's "we're all descended from one woman", but it makes sense within the context of generations and survival of the fittest."

Yes. I sometimes forget how few generations back it takes to have so many people.

Chani, for the little science I know, that was a good explanation. Thanks. :)

Bronwyn:
It does sound ridiculous when it's "we're all descended from one woman", but it makes sense within the context of generations and survival of the fittest.

Chani:
That was an excellent explanation. I knew it only passed through females, but I didn't know why or how. Very cool. I love learning new and exciting things.

Yeah Jackie has it.

On a side note, which I as a scientist find really cool...the mitochondria is a separate organelle (little organ) in a cell. It has it's own DNA because it is thought that it originated as a bacteria that was eaten by an early larger cell and survived in the larger cell by producing energy for the larger cell. It is only transmitted by the mother because sperm are too small to carry anything besides the genetic information of the nucleus of the cell (so the genetic information for most of the organism). The mitochondrial DNA doesn't really encode many genes (about 37) but it is really useful in tracing lineages and pretty cool that all humans share that connection so long ago.

I can expound on it more if anyone wants, but that would require some introduction of other terms. If anyone wants a thorough explanation just message me. I am studying for my PhD qualifying exams in biology so I am happy to practice giving answers to anyone in the good reads community :).

Jackie wrote: "I'm guessing that her decendants scattered all across the globe. The way the article explained it was that this Eve's DNA had the right stuff for survival. Where other lines died off, her's didn'..."

Ahh, okay, that works better then. The whole "survival of the fit" thing again. :)

I'm guessing that her decendants scattered all across the globe. The way the article explained it was that this Eve's DNA had the right stuff for survival. Where other lines died off, her's didn't. I'm sure it's more complicated but I don't really remember much else.

Jackie wrote: "Bronwyn wrote: The mitochondrial Eve part was great, though doesn't make complete sense. Are we really supposed to believe no one else had kids that would be our ancestors too?

That is the leadi..."

Okay, that's what I thought. (My mom's a science teacher so I learn some stuff without reading about it.) In that case then, how are we all decended from Hera...? It doesn't really add up to me. That would be my only complaint though.

Bronwyn wrote: The mitochondrial Eve part was great, though doesn't make complete sense. Are we really supposed to believe no one else had kids that would be our ancestors too?

That is the leading scientific theory: one woman. That's why they call her 'Eve' in reference to the biblical Eve who is supposed to be the mother of all. The mitochondrial Eve's mitochondrial DNA was found in every race. I read it in Discover magazine a couple of years ago, it was pretty interesting.

I thought the finale was wonderful. I couldn't've asked for much better than it was.

I loved the whole opera house bit. I loved that they found our earth and that's part of why we're around. I love that it was the music that led Kara to find earth. I loved the shots of the animals and the birds. Sort of "Planet Earth"y. The part with Tyrol and Tory was great; I've never warmed up to Tory and I'm glad Tyrol finally knew the truth. That Boomer saved Hera and it was her paying back Adama was just perfect, even Athena's killing her.

The mitochondrial Eve part was great, though doesn't make complete sense. Are we really supposed to believe no one else had kids that would be our ancestors too? Isn't that what mitochondrial Eve is? She's the one mother of everyone? Or are there multiple mitochondrial Eves? I liked that it was Moore reading the article.

I wish we knew more about Kara still though... I agree that she was some sort of "angel" that led the humans to their new home.

I loved that they sent the technology into the sun. They wanted to start completely fresh and it made complete sense.

I gotta say, the end really creeped me out though. I already don't really like robots, don't like the human looking ones the Japanese are creating, and so it just really freaked me out. (Though I know it will be a long time before we'd ever get to cylon level robots...)

I cried so hard through so much of the episode. I knew Laura would die, but I still bawled. And the whole part with Adama finding the place for the cabin... Man. Was I the only one who thought Helo died? I was really worried. I miss Kara, want to know what happened, but sort of liked that she disappeared.

I don't think that head 6 and Baltar are real in the present. They're still the head 6 and Baltar, just without being imagined. It really worked for me.

I think Cavil killed himself more because he would never want to be killed by a human, than because he lost resurrection again.

I loved all the religious aspects, even though I'm not at all religious. It just worked perfectly. And Baltar definitely said "It doesn't like being called that" not "He". Which was interesting. :)

I keep thinking about it when I should be doing other stuff. I've already watched it three times. I'll watch it more. I can't stop thinking about it.

I'll probably watch Caprica (and it is that they're releasing the mini-series on DVD early, the show will still run). I'll definitely watch The Plan.

A few (rather scattered) thoughts about Michael's post. If the vision Baltar&Caprica represent the gods of Kobol (Greek), well, that's a bit strange, isn't it, considering that Caprica is always talking about God (singular)? That's not to say that she couldn't be mistaken about her role, but considering the directness with which she operates, telling the truth about things that Gaius (or the physical Caprica) couldn't have known, she seems like a pretty direct representative of whatever divinity is out there. You're right, of course, that the Kara we see after she dies is much less self-aware. The distinction you seem to draw is that angel-Caprica/Gaius are more direct, so they're more like Greek Gods, while Kara wasn't given direct information, which is more like the Christian God. But then, if you take seriously Christian mythology as expressed in the Bible, that hasn't always been the case. Some of God's prophets were spoken to directly by God and seemed to know exactly what they were supposed to do, even if--like Baltar--they were too weak to always do so or tried to avoid their fate (Jonah as the most obvious example). So I tend to believe they were all instruments of unified divine whatever (if it doesn't want to be called God, it will just have to settle for "divine whatever").

Also, I'm not sure I buy that Cavil was really "ultimately religious." Although he sometimes played a minister, it was pretty clear that he understood that as a cynical sham. He seemed to be presented as the most consistently atheistic character. In fact, what he represented was a particular kind of atheism in the way that he viewed himself as a machine. Human beings can also view ourselves that way, as simply programmed by our genes for certain limitations (remember Cavil's ranting at Ellen about this?) and behaviors. He basically sees himself the way that many of the humans view the Cylons: machines with little or no freewill. That isn't Moore's vision of either humans or Cylons: in fact, we're basically the same. Our genetics may give us certain predispositions, but we have free will to choose what we are. Consider the Cylons as a case study: they're set up as being "identical" within a particular model, but over the course of the series, this has fallen apart, most notably with the 6s and the 8s, where their life paths have taken them down very different paths. The Cylons who DO stay identical do so because they've chosen to in one way or another, they've embraced the idea that that's what they're SUPPOSED to be (i.e. Cavil's way). I'm coming around to your basic reasoning for why Cavil kills himself, though: he doesn't believe in real creativity or growth, so he doesn't believe in his or the other Cylons' ability to rediscover resurrection (I also suspect it's something of a cop-out: wrapping up that side of the storyline on the one hand and condemning atheism--or at least that materialist-determinist [straw man:] atheism).

About the question whether He or It didn't like to be called that: I recorded the show on my DVR and turned on closed captioning. It had Baltar saying "It". Granted, CC has been known to be wrong, but I think that's solid confirmation. So what's "It"?

Battlestar Galactica: The Plan is scheduled for this fall. It's a two hour movie, from what I gather.

It sounds like the same one. I'm mistaken about when Scifi plans to air it; it was quite a while ago that I read the article. Oh Dang, now I have to wait even longer than I thought, LOL
Thanks for the info

I had also thought it was a series. But at the end of the trailer for it, it said "Available on DVD or Direct download", something like that.

But here is what Wikipedia has to say:

An extended version of the pilot will have its world premiere exclusively on DVD on April 21, 2009.[1:] In early 2010, the first season, composed of the two-hour pilot and 18 hour-long episodes, is expected to begin airing on the Sci Fi Channel in the United States.[2:][3:] The rights to broadcast the series have also been picked up by Sky1 in the UK and Ireland.[4:]

Here is the blurb on Netflix:

Set half a century before the "Battlestar Galactica" series, this feature film follows industrialist Daniel Graystone (Eric Stoltz) as he harnesses powerful technology to create the first-ever Cylon in the wake of a personal tragedy. Gravely concerned about Graystone's ethics, attorney Joseph Adama (Esai Morales), father of future admiral William Adama, becomes a fervent opponent of the powerful scientist and businessman.

So it looks like the pilot is direct-to-video and the series will run next year. Hmmm

That's interesting, I read on SciFi Wire that it's a series scheduled for this Fall on the Scifi Channel.

All I could find on IMDB was about the TV series:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799862/

Does netflix give a description or synopsis?

It looks like Caprica is a direct to DVD movie. It's listed on Netflix and available April 21.

StarGate had 2 movies come out after the show ended, I'm hoping we can get some of that for BSG. I like the characters from BSG, as long as we're getting I'm in. I don't think I want to care about their ancestors in 'Caprica'. Spin-offs are never satisfying to me.

I can't answer most of your questions but I can say that I'm pretty sure Baltar said It didn't like to be called that.

You have some interesting questions. I think had Moore tried to address some of them the show would have had less mainstream followers and I think it would have felt wrong given the plot of Battlestar Galactica. People don't ask those kinds of questions when they are trying to survive.

Jackie, I am excited about the next BSG movie, at least it has the same actors and actresses. But like you (and probably many Battlestar fans) I am unsure about Caprica. I guess only time will tell.

Oh, and call me wacky, but I'm not religious. The closest I come to religion is adopting Taoism as a way to view the world. I like to think of myself as a little bit Zen.

But, even so, I've always thought we're part machine. Or at the very least, born of a collective intelligence. One of my favorite books is The Singularity is Near. Not for the crackpot timeline of evolution that Kurzweil posits, but because of how fun the implications of his theories are.

His theories certainly could be even slightly correct (it's his timeline that's waaay too fast).

And if his theories are even slightly near the target, chances of us being the first to, someday, move beyond the singularity and find ourselves capable of uploading ourselves to the universe, become some part of a collective consciousness, means it's already happened over and over again.

How does one introduce a little "chaos" into a staid, predictable collective consciousness without seeding it with a little new blood?

There's our God.

Seeding the universe with little planets of life, all that will someday reach their own singularity, upload to the universe, as more planets of life, in billions of alternate universes, do the same thing, and so on and so on...

It's a fun book.

Yikes, I re-read and saw this was a bit in left field. My impetus was to address that idea that we're all a little bit cylon and what that might mean. After all, as much as Moore addresses big questions like war, identity, religion, cloning, etc., he doesn't address the biggest questions of all -- are there multiple universes? Where did God come from? How can something come from nothing, even if the something is a "God"?

Does Baltar say "It" or "He" doesn't like to be called that?

And wouldn't it/he be beyond the need to address such a petty thing? How does one explain God as eternal? The Universe or Universes as eternal? Stuck in time as we are, how can we wrap our brains around the notion of a thing or things being truly outside time, truly eternal, when everything we know has a beginning?

There is so much to this show, I constantly forget things and lucky for me, I have this group to remind me too.

I'm enjoying reading everyone's comments and views on things.

Did anyone see the preview for the 2 hour TV Movie scheduled for the Fall about the Cylons point of view? It looks interesting. I'm definitely going to watch it.
http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=106822...

Not sure how I feel about Caprica, I'll see when the time comes amd decide then.
I feel that BSG was so outstanding, that anything else would be a disappointment, BSG cannot be outdone.

Jackie, thanks for reminding me and correcting that bit of misinformation. And thanks to any who enjoyed my post.

I did want to mention to Matt that I'm not sure we should interpret the Baltar/Caprica figures at the very end, 150,000 years in the future, as mortal.

I interpreted them as, corny as it sounds, angels among us. Visible to whoever they wanted to be.

Ultimately, I think the final message in terms of the God/Gods conflict, that Baltar stating "You know he doesn't like to be called that," is evidence that there is JUST one actual God, regardless of how one culture vs. another culture chooses to interpret their idea of who or what that God is (Christian/Muslim/Greek/Roman, etc.).

Kara was a metaphor for one interpretation, in-head Baltar/Caprica, another.

It stands to reason that Baltar/Caprica would be metaphors for the "Gods" because Greek/Roman Gods all had much more direct involvement with humans. Baltar/Caprica were following "orders."

It stands to reason that Kara would not -- in Christianity, God takes a background role, leaving Kara to figure things out for herself.

That's my way of interpreting it. No right or wrongs, just my way.

I love reading what everyone has to say.

Thanks for reading!

Yep, it was Moore. I thought it was a nice touch.

I enjoyed the ending, although I thought it was too long. I actually expected it to be darker, with a sadder ending and more people dying. Perhaps that is why some view it as disappointing.

I'm not sure who the Baltar and Caprica "Angels" were supposed to be. As Kevinalbee pointed out, Baltar said "You know He doesn't like the called that". So does that mean the God they represented was really something else? At least BSG left us with something to think about.

Did anyone else notice they guy who was reading the National Geographic that Caprica was reading? Am I right that was Ron Moore, one of the producers and scriptwriters?

Michael,
I like you take on Why Cavil killed himself. It makes sense. But I need to remind you that Lee and Kara did sleep together on New Caprica. Maybe they couldn't be together for whatever reason, but sex wasn't one of them. And they did love each other. So much so, that she didn't have much to do with Sam physically after the boxing-ring fight with Lee. Sam and Dee both saw it, recognized it for what it was. Kara still loved Lee but she wouldn't leave Sam because it was a vow she took in front of the gods. I don't think it had much to do with Sam really. Not until after Sam was shot, did Kara seem to really care about Sam again.

Lori wrote: "Besides, BSG has always been about religion. So why the surprise?

BSG has always had religous elements. But they could all have a sientific explinaition or remain unexplained

the problem Ihave is SCI Fi IMHO is about people overcoming obsticals not god stepping in and fixing everything.

Kara comming back as a "angel"
The Baltar and Caprica "Angels" being shown as real on earth 150,000 years later.

This converts a human story of humans overcoming incredible odds to a fantacy of humans have messed it up again so it requires divine intervention in the form of sending a person back with the knowledge of how to find a new earth.
It hAD CAVIL accepting Baltars logic and releasing Hera.

Human decisions were involved. Free will prevented Cavel from getting reserection tech etc.

But the final solution was the intervention of 3 "angels" one incarnate in Kara and two visible only to guide critical characters.

Even the reference 150,000 years later "You know He doesn't like to be called that. (GOD)"

As far as the robot montage it is a reference to humans never learning because we don't know our own history.

I was truly disappointed.

Michael, I am glad you posted. I too don't have places to discuss the finale - or the series at all - and this has been a great group to share thoughts and get ideas from/with.

I like the idea of Caprica 6 and Gaius representing the Fates - that probably makes more sense to me than anything else.

I am going to watch it again tonight and see if I can see or think anything different. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, and spent some time yesterday reading internet commentary. Finally, I made myself work on the taxes. It was the only thing that required enough concentration to put BSG out of my head!

I never post anything anywhere, but I don’t really have anyone to talk with about this outstanding finale.

It’s a few days later and I need to watch it again. Some details are beginning to grow a bit hazy.

It was FANTASTIC! So, I’m going to include some random thoughts and perhaps respond to some of the most recent comments about the finale. I think I’ll start with offering my theories about who and what everyone might have been. I stress ... MIGHT have been.

While I can understand the disappointment by some, I’m personally ok with the fact that everything was God’s plan. I think what we need to remember is that some characters were FATED to do what they did, and some made choices. We can debate whether choice really is choice or not -- after all, many will argue that the most recent choice we make is always determined by all of our previous actions up to that point, and therefore not a choice at all -- but some characters on the show were FATED to be who they were (Kara, Gaius, Caprica Six), and some made a CHOICE (the Chief’s murder of Tori).That was Moore’s decision how to handle that philosophical debate, and we shouldn’t consider it a cop-out. Catch-22. One side or the other could call it a “cop out” and be wrong. Moore’s ultimate stance is: It may be God’s plan, but we have FREE WILL. The cynic in me says, yeah, because without FREE WILL, we wouldn’t have the drama necessary for a TV show...

Of all the wrap-up stories, Kara’s was the most disappointing. My personal belief is that she was God’s instrument -- and angel -- the only angel on the show (and I know some disagree with that). Kara went to Heaven. She loved Sam. She never could have been with Lee. Their relationship would have been born from sin (treachery against his brother). I liked their flashback story, because it provided context justified why they couldn’t live happily ever after. It also explained WHY they never got together in the first place. They were 2 of the many heroes of the story, and heroes have a sense of conscience that simply won’t allow for that kind of immorality (for lack of a better word) to occur. ALSO, several times throughout the series, Adama referred to Kara as “daughter.” Son and daughter incest would have been wrong. Kara was the representation of the “God” that the cylons believed in.

I don’t believe in-head Gaius and Caprica were angels as some believe. I believe they were Greek/Roman Fates. They were representations of the “Gods” that the humans believed in, and they held the hands of real Gaius and Caprica as they fulfilled their destinies. In this case, there was no FREE WILL. Simply, DETERMINISM.

Adama/Laura -- hard, I cried, but correct.

Humanity going off to live isolated, and without technology -- tough to swallow, but necessary for the choices Moore made about the end of the show.

Lee -- waaaaay too fast. And simply not quite right. The weakest part of the finale.

Ellen/Tigh -- eh, whatever.

The Chief -- perfect. He did some morally questionable things throughout the series (I believe, someone correct me if I’m wrong). A hero, but not the perfect hero.

Cavil killed himself because he was weak. He wasn’t going to get resurrection -- EVER -- and couldn’t live with that. Remember, evil though he was, he was ultimately religious. The prophecy was broken by FREE WILL (the Chief killing Tori). Only the final 5 had the knowledge necessary for resurrection. His personal belief, his personal religion, had no room for developing resurrection on his own because it was a DIVINE GIFT and he was merely one of the flock. He was weak. He shot himself. A villain who got his in the end.

Baltar’s speach to Cavil at the end was NECESSARY. Moore chose Baltar to be his voice. Baltar was always the heart, and conflict, of Moore’s message. (Weak though the whole harem storyline was). Was it a bit stilted and awkward? Absolutely. But, it was necessary for the morality play that BSG was to play out -- and Moore always saw BSG as a morality play. Who else but Baltar could fulfill this role, controlled as he was by one of the Greek/Roman Fates?

My favorite moments of the finale -- the Chief snapping his head at Tori when he learned that she killed Cali -- and the fulfilling of the Opera House visions.

Thanks for reading!

Besides, BSG has always been about religion. So why the surprise?

Chani, I like what you say in your last paragraph.

I didn't really see it as God fixing it in the end. I saw it more as this one group attempting to stop the cycle (whether by God's influence (like Baltar and 6) or by their own desire for peace and to not 'have their brains outpace their hearts (like Lee said)). I thought the destruction of the technology was a way to stop these people from going after the few remaining Cylons or the Centurions. It was a way for them to get peace.

Also, I don't think there was a goal to destroy their 'knowledge' only the technology. I think Lee's point to the whole thing was to learn from the past and try to break that cycle. By giving them time to learn to be at peace before they had the wartime technologies again.

I think that Baltar and 6's end overshadows the other main characters who were not acting based on 'God' but instead based on right or wrong. Lee, Adama, Tigh, Tyrol, Roslin and others were acting to preserve humanity (and cylonity) and give them a chance to live in peace with each other.

I have to say unlike the rest of you I was deeply disappointed. The ending and explaintion of all that happend was it is "gods will".

That was a total cop out. If God did it there is no point. We don't even need them to survive he could just start over.

Then they destroy their tech. With what they had left and thier population they would have had to fall back but not give it all up. They could have saved the knowledge. and parked the ships on the dark side of the moon. When we earn space again theknowledge is there waiting. Just in time to warn us against enslaving the AI's we are about to create.

With the loss of knowledge about the mistakes made we are doomed to repeat them.

This ended a great science fiction series with a religous fantacy. Why even try God will fix it in the end or keep tryinbg till a human race gets it right. ICCCCCCK

And, as I suspected, everyone, at least on our "earth" ended up by Cylons. Because if Hera was Mitrochondrial Eve, then we're all part machine. :)

I really struggled with the last thirty minutes of this episode. Some of the personal wrap-ups of the main characters just don't sit well with me.

Kara seems more like an Archangel incarnate that either forgot her mission or was deliberately kept in the dark (chaos theory?). I believe she was physically there through the whole story for the other characters, but once she accomplished her mission, she was called home or earned her wings to return to paradise.

I have so much to say about the ending, I don't know where to begin - so here are my comments - a bit scattered, I know - and I would LOVE to hear your thoughts.

- I really liked the first 60 minutes. Everything was perfectly real, knocked me off my feet.
- I loved the way the opera house came together.
- I loved Sharon "saving" Hera, and Athena ending it for her.
- I LOVED the part where Tyrol killed Tori. I hated Tori, and the interruption of the Resurrection Technology transfer was perfect! I am really glad that transfer was interrupted. I could "see" everything happening again with the Cylons led by Cavil "forgetting" their agreement hundreds of thousands of years into the future, and a new human/Cylon war beginning.
- I thought Baltar talking Cavil "down" was a bit of nonsense. Cavil was so mean, cynical, strong - I had a hard time believing that he would actually listen to Baltar, even for a minute.
- I did not get it at all when Cavil shot himself. That seemed out of character - I would have expected him to fight or run. After all, this whole battle was all about survival.
- I LOVED when Kara entered the jump coordinates from the song. That was a GREAT moment for her.
- I would really have been a-ok with the series ending when Battlestar Gallactica was flying over the moon and we saw earth.

- I thought the second 60 minutes was some of the most beautiful photograpy/cinematography ever.
- I absolutely disagreed with the decision to send all their technology into the sun.
- If Kara was just going to "disappear," why didn't they just send her into the sun with Sam? I thought that was artificial and really didn't like that at all.
- I was super sad when Laura died, and was sad for Adama as well, but agree that it had to end that way.
- I can't imagine that any group of travelers landing on a planet deciding to destroy all their technology and then taking minimal survival supplies and Splitting Up. The fact that the main characters all went off alone - I found that less "real" than almost anything that they have done.
- I was really sad for Tyrol. I understand that he is tired of it all, but all he ever wanted was that vision that Sharon shared - a family, a life together. And he ended up alone on an island - oh my, quite sad. I do like your idea, Chani - that he went to Great Britain and made quite the life and built Stonehenge - that makes me smile!
- I can't reconcile how Baltar STARTED the whole thing, then was actually some kind of "Angel" from God guiding himself through it all (along with Caprica 6, of course). Sheese.
- I did like the tie in with Mitochondrial Eve at the very end, and of course, the shot of Baltar and Caprica walking into the crowd was priceless.

I am sad sad sad that it is over.

I loved the connection with mitochondrial eve too! I was also excited (from the perspective of someone whose best friend is an anthropologist) about the presence of the two humans at once. It could be Neanderthal and Homo erectus and explain why we see them living at the same time.

Kara is a bit confusing. Likewise, the 'angels' of Baltar and Caprica 6 present in the future. Despite that I liked both those bits.

I think my favorite 'ending' is Tyrol (even though he wasn't my favorite character) moving to an island in the north. I imagine him building Stonehenge and confusing us all in the future.