That sounds like a great episode.

I also found this------

If you think she's desperate now, just wait'll you see Gabrielle Solis in 30 years, with gray hair and saggy jowls! ABC's still-surprising sudser returns with its first post-plane crash episode to find the gals of Wisteria Lane imagining how their lives would be if they'd made different choices or if certain events had played out differently. "Its our big what if show" says creator Marc Cherry. "We do a parody of Grey Gardens showing Gaby as this demented stage mom in her 60's. Carlos and Juanita have bailed, and Gaby is living on food stamps and trying to make her youngest daughter into a great actress." Under anesthetic in the hospital, Lynette dreams that one of her unborn twins, who has been harmed in the crash, will grow up disabled. Angie envisions herself getting busted for her hush-hush crime. Bree finds out what its like to be married to the philandering Karl, while Susan-the only Housewife who goes back in time-sees how truly miserable she'd be if she hadn't divorced him. "We find out Susan would have dealt with Karl;s cheating by eating and getting really huge. The most expensive thing about this episode was Teri Hatcher's fat suit. She had a blast wearing it!"

Gossip and News-----

Fans shocked by Sunday’s plane crash on Desperate Housewives will have to wait a few weeks to find out who is among the fatalities, but the good news is that Eva Longoria Parker’s Gaby is not among the deceased. “It’s not me, I know that!” she told TVGuideMagazine.com at the Creative Coalition dinner honoring Latinos in Hollywood on December 8.

Dana Delaney, who plays shed a little more light on the situation. “There are three people who have died, so that will be revealed in January. One of them is a main character."

While she couldn’t reveal the name of the departed, Delaney said it’s always sad when a fellow cast member leaves. “It’s always very touching. We’re a family and it’s a great show to work on. Nobody wants to go.”

Katherine herself was last seen getting committed to a mental hospital. She’ll be returning in two episodes' time, but her emotional state will remain questionable for the foreseeable future. “I have a feeling that you’re never going to know whether she’s sane or not. But I think we need to get her back on the street,” says Delaney, who says she enjoyed the challenge of playing a crazy woman. “It’s been really fun. I’ve had a ball. I think we went as far as we could go with that storyline.”

Stacy, I was thinking the same thing, that Bree needs to be on her own! She seems very unhappy in her marriages anyway. She can have a lover, but why does she have to be married?
And where's Andrew been? Haven't seen him in a while. He's probably hiding from her too, LOL

Jackie, I agree with you about Angie. I like her, but could care less about the rest of the family.

I think that it is probably Karl and Orson too. I don't think Bree has any business having a suitor; she just emasculates the ones that she is with. Can you imagine if one of the guys were to forget to use a coaster?!

I think they killed both Karl and Orson. They seem to like killing off the men in Bree's life.

I've seen some talk online that maybe Lynette will lose the babies when she pulled Gabby's kid out of the way of the plane.....

Maybe it is both.... they being the central and major ones that die. That would make sense really. I wouldn't be too bothered by the two of them leaving the show.

I feel bad for Katherine in the fact that she's got serious mental health problems. It's not just 'about a guy' like I originally thought. I think we can expect a good storyline to come out of this, something from her past maybe?

I'd like to know more about Angie. What Mona(?) did was despicable, I'm glad she's gone. I think Angie's story isn't going to be as bad and ruthless as just killing someone would be. There's more to that story too. I like Angie, but I hate the husband. I'm still undecided about Danny. But I want Angie to stay for a while.

The big question: Karl or Orson? Maybe both? I don't see that anyone else was hurt at the party. Both are pretty usless as far as I'm concerned.

I just finished!! Oh my god... I hate when they end with a cliffhanger. LOL So who do you think it IS???? Obviously we know the $67,000 lady is done... she's going to be the minor one that dies. What about the central and major ones?? It freaks me out that Bree was in there too... I'm wondering if its Karl and now Bree has to stay with Orson.

And I'm glad we are learning more about what Angie did...

Katherine honestly seems certifiable. I kinda felt bad for her when her daughter was talking to her.

Yeah, it was good. Let me know when you're done, I don't want to spoil it for you.

Has anyone watched last night's episode yet? I'm starting it now...

Stacy wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Julie go. She is no longer the Julie we know and love.

Same here. I don't even like her anymore.

Danny is an emotional kid, still no excuse to act suicidal but it makes more sense than Krazy Katherine's love delusion. There's some nutty people on Wisteria Lane.
Danny's still a weirdo, wanting to be with someone who slept with his dad, EWWW, how gross. Twisted little freak.

What's off the deep end is that kid Danny trying to kill himself because a girl who's almost a decade older turned him down--a girl who has screwed his dad! I'm thinking Danny has some serious mommy issues.

I thought Julie was a real brat when she told Susan what she did was her own business. Susan could have told her that if she wanted to act like a ho, she could get her own place.

I wouldn't mind seeing Julie go. She is no longer the Julie we know and love.

He'll be cleared eventually but that's where the Susan-Mike-Katherine drama will most likely lay for a while.

She needs to be committed. Stabbing oneself? Yeah, that's completely off the deep end, LOL I never thought she'd go this far. I think it's taken on a life of it's own. I can't imagine going this crazy over a guy.

Yeah I'm thinkin' that's where that storyline is headed too Jackie. Unfortunately. I think she's really gone off the deep end now!

I don't blame himn either; that was over the top crazy talking to a 6 yr. old about his mother!!! I don't even get the reasoning behind it. A restraining order would have been a good idea, but too late now. Looks like Katherine is going to say Mike stabbed her. Mike's already been in prison for killing someone, it won't be hard to frame him for this. And he did touch the knife so his prints are on it. I'll bet he wishes he stabbed her, LOL

After Carlos's behavior, I'm almost ready to see him die. But I don't think it is him.

I think Katherine is dangerous, and Mike should not have set her off. He should get a restraining order against Katherine; I don't blame him for being mad about her taking MJ.

I wonder what the circumstances were with Angie killing someone.

Carlos is being really cruel. I think Lynette jumped the gun with the lawyer and that's why Gabby and Carlos are angry, but I think they are more hurt than angry.

I can't believe how mean Mike was to Katherine, I know she's gone too far and is delusional when it comes to him. I can understand why he said those things, but they were really awful and cruel. She's really gone around the bend this time.

Well now we know what's going on with Angie and her family and why they are in hiding!

I feel horrible for Lynette. I know she lied and that wasn't cool but Carlos is being totally unreasonable.

I couldn't believe what Katherine did!

Definitely not Carlos! I think Karl is most likely for the one who's been around since season 1. Maybe McClusky, but I hope not. Possibly Julie, since they've totally run her character into the ground.

One central--I'd say Katherine or Orson.

One minor character--maybe Carlos's niece.

I know! I feel the same... I'm hoping its not him too.

I don't want Carlos to go, I hope it's Karl who goes. Really, where is his and Bree's storyline going anyway? She admits she doesn't even like him.
What about the old lady, (Karen, I think her name is), she's always around but not essential. Any storyline centering around her is still in the periphery and quickly resolved.
Or the guys who live next door to Susan, either one is not essential to the show.
Just please don't let it be Carlos. I love him and Gabby's interactions; much needed comedy and gives a lightness to the show.

**TV GUIDE SPOILERS**


Exec producer Marc Cherry tells me the plane crashing into Desperate Housewives’ December 6 Christmas party will claim three characters’ lives—one minor, one central and one biggie who’s been on since Season 1.

As for that longtime cast member, Cherry says, “The fans are going to be sad over this one, but it was a good time to end this character’s story line.” (I’d start digging a grave for either Ricardo Chavira’s Carlos or Richard Burgi’s Karl.) The producer praises his fired actor for taking the news “with a lot of class” (unlike a certain blonde who blasted the show after her exit last season). “This person stood up at our table read and told everyone what a joy it was to be a part of the show,” he says.

I agree with all of that..... this is going to be interesting!

Early in the day. I don't know if I'd remember her after all the customers in between. But I'd sure remember the last guy there.
They do like to try to make it look one way when it's not. It'd be too obvious...unless they want it to come out now.

Angie is a likely candidate too, the person that ran away after Julie was strangled didn't look like a man. Whoever it was had a slight build. I'm going to have to take a closer look at Dominic's body but he seems average size to me.
And Angie would be the most hurt in all this, but still, she should go after Dominic, he's the one who has a commitment with her, not the other girl.

Yeah, I'm kinds thinkin' the same... but Angie had been in there too before that right? Hmmm

I think it's Dominic. The girl in the coffee shop said 'Did you forget something?' and he had just left.
I don't get his appeal either.
And his accent sucks.

She said she was doing it for Orson so that he didn't get his heart broken but I think there is more to it too....

Holli, the Julie-Angie scene was AWKWARD!

I don't really get why Angie would be helping out Bree, especially when she herself was cheated on. I think Angie is going to want something in return.

I felt sorry for that poor coffee shop girl! Maybe you are right about Angie being the strangler, since the girl was flirting with Dominic.

Again--I don't get Dominic's appeal!

I wish Orson would get another story line; I like him and think he deserves better.

Any thoughts on this past Sunday's episode? I loved the whole scene of Orson coming home and Angie calling... and Karl outside naked!!

I also thought it was sad that now Gaby and Carlos are mad at Lynette but you know what... I kinda don't blame them.....

I really liked Angie too and I love her and Bree's new budding friendship. I think deep down inside there is a lot of Angie type behavior in Bree just waiting to be let out :)

I really think their family is in witness protection after this episode.... I'd be surprised if its not what is going on with them.

I think the strangler was Angie... I really do. But who knows!!

More thoughts:

Why don't we ever see Karl's other kid? (The boy that's the same age as MJ.) I think they showed him last season, but as much as we're seeing of Karl, why don't we ever see/hear about his kid?

When they referred to Kathryn and "Moose" as members of the "I Hate Susan" club, I really wished Edie was still there. She would definitely be a member. I think I would have hated Susan in high school too!

What if the strangler was Dave? Maybe he got out of the psych ward. Nah, I can't see Dave playing it cool for this long.

We got to see a lot of Angie, the new neighbor, in today's episode. I really like her.

It was very telling when she told Bree she lit a candle for the burn victim. Little does Bree know...

The new family will not stay, they never do. Either it will be a husband or one of the new family who dies in the crash.

Holli wrote: "TV GUIDE Sweeps Preview:

It never snows in Fairview, but there will be plenty of chills on Wisteria Lane when a female neighbor becomes the block's second strangulation victim. "The neighbors w..."

julie and danny YUCK, from father to son!!!!!!

I wouldnt be surprised to see Susan and Bree get into it, when the affair is exposed? Maybe the housewive is the one who called Gabby a bad mom and Gabby helps her daughter through it and becomes a good mom again

Stacy wrote: "Spoilers say that a midseason airplane crash will kill a Desperate Housewives character.

Who do you think it will be?

My guess would be Katherine; they've pretty much written her character in..."

I hope not, Katherine is playing her plot quite well, it could be the new family, they really don't fit in just like the last time they tried this.

Funniest line of the night:

Gabby: I know someone who isn't getting 'blanked' tonight.
Carlos: Fine with me; I 'blanked' off earlier.

Bree would deserve that. She is so cold-hearted!

I'm laughing Stacy, I thought the same thing when i read that about Orson and Karl. Totally makes you go there when you read it huh? ;)

1. Strangling victim--I hope it's not McClusky! Wish it was Katherine.
2. Surprise twist--Orson and Karl are gay? :-0
3. Ana/Porter, Julie/Danny *yawn*
4. Gaby & Carlos--get over yourselves!

Thanks for the info, Holli!

TV GUIDE Sweeps Preview:

It never snows in Fairview, but there will be plenty of chills on Wisteria Lane when a female neighbor becomes the block's second strangulation victim. "The neighbors will be left wondering if there's a serial killer on Wisteria Lane" says exec producer. With Katherine reaching a point of "high craziness" viewers may wonder if its her or someone from the secretive and suspicious Bolen family. This mass paranoia will lead the Housewives to enroll in a self-defense class where one of the feuds between the women comes to a head. And don't be so quick to assume its Susan and Katherine as other rivalries will intensify during November. By the end of the year, Bree will be forced to choose between Orson and Karl but the exec producer teases " There will be a huge surprise twist involving both men." In the midst of all of these family feuds Romeo and Juliet-style romances will spark between Ana and Porter and possibly Julie and Danny. As for MJ expect him to once again be used as a pawn in Katherine's attempts to win back Mike. Also, Susan will resent Bree when her affair with Karl is exposed while Gaby and Carlos hold a grudge against Lynette for concealing her pregnancy.

Then they can be equally obsessive about each other...sounds like a perfect match to me, LOL

I know!! Maybe they should get those two together... they would be perfectly crazy as a couple. LOL

Orson is pretty useless these days too. Him and Katherine should hook up, LOL
If Orson dies, then Bree will act all sad and guilty, UGH, not looking forward to that.

Totally think she had every right to shoot Katherine... who does that?? Sneaking around the doors and windows... she is so weird.

Talk online is that its Orson they kill off in the plane crash ;)

Totally in agreement. If Katherine was there to tell her about the Crimewatch schedule change, a phonecall would do or if she had to go there, why didn't she ring the bell? Her shadow went across the front door. She's been skulking around there a lot. I think Susan and Julie had every right to be frightened, especially with Mike not being home.

The crash, I'm thinking Katherine too. I would have liked to see her have a huge meltdown and be carted away in a white coat. Who even travels? The only ones I can see travelling, and it would be for business, would be Lynette but that would imply that Carlos would go too, then that means Gabby. Don't see that working.

Oh, and I don't blame Susan for shooting the gun, although I feared Mike was the one that was going to be hit.

Katherine was skulking around Susan's house right after someone tried to kill Julie. Susan and Julie had reason to think they were in danger.

Spoilers say that a midseason airplane crash will kill a Desperate Housewives character.

Who do you think it will be?

My guess would be Katherine; they've pretty much written her character into a corner.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment...

Finding them again is the important part.
OK, so I see it is possible for Julie to change significantly. Now the question is, will she get back on track?