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message 1: by E-Kai (last edited Apr 06, 2007 02:52PM) (new)

49268 Warning this contians spoilers!!!!

Everyone is looking fill something within themselves - the people in the book are trying to find it by validating themselves against women. However, near the next some dont find what they are looking for and turn to religion, but even that isn't enough.

I found the real message is finding whatever you're looking for within yourself. Tackling your insecurities, amitting your faults to yourself and then working on them. Neil becomes Sytle, his altered ego in order to fix his insecurities about himself but in the end he's back to Neil and that's what gets him Lisa.

We're all looking for our Lisas but we have to realize that the only place you're going to find her is within yourself


message 2: by deleted member (new)

The deeper message is ... whatever gets you the ladies is good.


message 3: by Amitai (new)

30883 Yes, but he adds the caveat that the PUA community let him meet Lisa in the first place. And he still associates with it, so he has not rejected it completely.


message 4: by Andrew (new)

81719 Most people avoid alter egos, this book preaches embracing and cultivating them.

While reading the book, it was hard to believe that it was non-fiction. I searched online for more info and after seeing a video clip, its hard to not laugh.

The saddest part is the people are absolutely serious about what they do. Perhaps its the naivety of an outside on-looker, but I doubt I'm the only one that sees an excessive degree of comedy in their whole "game." They've tried to eliminate all the spontaneity and social-ness from social interactions--attempting to reduce it to a science. Terrific, relationships can now be predicted with game theory and regression analysis.

The book goes so far as to suggest carrying a bag of crap around in order to impress people, ladies and AMOG's alike, such as laundry lint and magic tricks. The parlour tricks are a means to make up for a lack of interesting personality and/or experiences. *sigh* I bet all those PUA's are the same people on Second Life, which, theoretically makes it their third life...

There might have been a deeper message in the story however it was lost in the overall shallowness of the book.


message 5: by Daniel (new)

Nophoto-m-25x33 While i agree that that life style is shallow, i think the book just goes to prove it. our whole socetiy today is filled with people "falling in love" which in reality is nothing more than infatuation.

people think that "love" just happens and you cant plan for it, well guess what? you can.

women who will sleep with a man just be cause he is funny and interesting, and she is infatuated with him, are just as much to blame for this.

the men are not forceing women to sleep with them rather makeing the women want to sleep with him, and then allowing her to do so.

women do this all the time to men by dressing up all fancy, matching clothes, and plucking eyebrows and makeup, in order that men should want to sleep with them, and i dont see the difference in that.


message 6: by Mike (new)

662042 It will be impossible to make any sense out of this book until you realize that the men depicted are obviously all closet homosexuals. Then it just seems kind of sad. Mike Lindgren


message 7: by Greg (new)

Nophoto-m-25x33 I think you're right on the part that the secret is inside ourselves, but without the confidence that the PUA community gave him, he would never have so much as spoken to lisa, let alone got anywhere with her. Let's face it, with the way style looked before becoming a PUA, and his lack of game, she would have never dated him.
I think it also shows you how far one will go to get the affection of the opposite sex. Women spend tons of money on clothes, hair and makeup. Even altering their bodies with plastic surgery. And all of this costs lots, and lots of money. Men in the PUA community try tweak their personalities and spend thousands on bootcamps.


message 8: by Peacerenity (new)

Nophoto-u-25x33 Mike wrote: "It will be impossible to make any sense out of this book until you realize that the men depicted are obviously all closet homosexuals. Then it just seems kind of sad. Mike Lindgren"

i rofl-ed on this one. dude, just because somebody is unsuccessful with women and generally insecure doesn't mean that they are a closet homosexual. neither does wanting the approval of other men mean that you are a closet homosexual. otherwise everyone on a sports team, in a fraternity, or with a close relationship with their father would also be a homosexual.


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