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I hate babies/small children
Honesty, is there anything worse than being trapped in a cramped train compartment with a screaming autistic 4-year-old kicking the back of your seat?
I find it hard to bare youth in any capacity... Twitching eyes, abdominal pains the works; nasty business kids are.
I wouldn't survive that trip...
Well there's your problem then. You should arrange it so they wouldn't survive that trip.
You should arrange it so they wouldn't survive that trip.
And you still insist that you chose to leave your job at the toy store?
I left that job because the company was in bankruptcy (it came out a few months later, then filed again and the company folded) and also because because i couldn't stand my boss anymore. She once left a voice mail to all the stores in her district saying "have a superdy-duperdy day." I still have nightmares.
On the other hand, I still have fond memories of the 12 year old i caught shoplifting Pokemon cards, with (possibly fake) tears running down his face, begging me to let him of the hook. "Please don't tell my mom. Please don't tell my mom. I'll give you all the money i've got. I'll give you nine dollars. Nine dollars!"
Oh, i didn't take the nine dollars. I called mall security-- mall security in some places i've worked are snotty, full-of-themselves rent-a-cops but these guys were pretty cool. They took him down to the security office and, as i was gleefully informed later, was told that because he's a minor caught shoplifting they had to not only call his parents but call the police as well. We didn't bother to make a formal complaint or anything, because it would have been too much trouble, but they did keep him in there for a good long time to let him squirm. Mom came to pick him up, and from the account i got the kid was gonna get a whuppin of the type you can't give your kids in public anymore.
worse than, "being trapped in a cramped train compartment with a screaming autistic 4-year-old kicking the back of your seat" would be actually BEING the autistic child.
Yes, we've missed you Marie, where were you all this time?Matt - I feel your pain. Small children should not travel. It needs to be made official, required by law. Why do the little vermin need to be hauled across the country anyway? Do they have important business meetings to attend to? I didn't think so.
Tom - well handled!
I think you all only have yourselves to blame. If you don't want kids traveling you need to complain about it. Maybe airlines will start offering kid-free flights and trains will offer kid-free cars. (The last train I was on DID have a quiet car.)I travel with my kids now and then. Everyone is always super sweet and helpful about it. They pick up their toys when they drop them, make stupid faces to amuse them, ask them questions, help me carry stuff, ect. Only every once in a while do I get a dirty look from someone and then everyone else shrugs apologetically like "Sheesh what's HER problem?!" So since you are all obviously in the minority you need to be LOUDER.
As for Matt's particular experience: If the kid was NOT autistic and kicking your seat repeatedly that's unacceptable.
Or maybe you are a better parent then most... has it occurred to you that people are so kind to you and your children, when traveling, because they are not hanging from the luggage racks screaming.There are a lot of bad parents out there. I don't mind kids on a plane as long as they are sedated. Air travel sucks enough with out the added joy of some assholes disgruntled offspring.
Just wear ear plugs!It's annoying when parents make no efforts to get their kids under some kind of respective control. And the kicking your seat is soooooooo annoying.
Otherwise I'm with Marie and Gretchen.
Remember when you were a kid and you were always puzzled by those cranky unpleasant adults who said they hated kids? How could they, they used to be kids! is what those kids think.
Well, you've turned into those catankerous adults!
And it wasn't that long ago that Matt was one of those kids. :D
Heh heh.I don't really hear children, anymore. They're the soundtrack of my life. I would definitely feel my seat being kicked, though.
Private train compartment. Voila!
I was never loud/obnoxious, Lori. I liked quiet places as a youth.Yes, children are awful. I shall never have them.
Also, it's worth noting that my generation is poised to be the "childless" generation--that is, the idea of a 'family' will no longer be held in such esteem. Many, many more people my age will decide against having families*.
There are currently a few fascinating studies that were recently published.
*: Granted, this only applies to the middle/upper-middle/upper classes. Those in lower income brackets/those lacking formal education will still reproduce as normal.
Kids = horrible.
Today I talked about cats with two fifth graders for about twenty minutes and pretended to love them. I'm totally a liar to children.
Haha, I love cats! I've tried to love dogs in the same way... but... I just can't.Do your fifth graders like cats?
I remember fifth grade... 2001, where have you gone?
Adults are WAY more horrible than children, they just know enough to hide it. I hate that I can't afford a private train compartment.
Matt wrote: "I was never loud/obnoxious, Lori. I liked quiet places as a youth.Yes, children are awful. I shall never have them.
Also, it's worth noting that my generation is poised to be the "childless" gen..."
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Matt - since you are a quiet soul, and hate loud children, it's no wonder you're more of a cat person! Tis true, cats are quiet, independent, can take care of themselves, and cleaner as well. Dogs can seem loud, slobbery, rambunctious, and don't clean themselves - as a matter of fact, if you give them a bath, they will go to the nearest mud pit to roll in and get right smelly again.I loves them. Then again, I also have a loud rambunctious child. :) Altho everyone else says he's so mellow and polite. I guess he saves it all for us. Argh.
If the smart people don't have kids, you are leaving the earth to the stoopids! It's your responsibility to have kids then. God dammit!
Matthew, what about when/if you fall in love with a girl who is beautiful, smart, eccentric, stacked, intriguing and doesn't let you treat your body and soul poorly and makes you want to be a better person and is a bit of a nympho...but wants kids. Then what?
Montambo wrote: "Matthew, what about when/if you fall in love with a girl who is beautiful, smart, eccentric, stacked, intriguing and doesn't let you treat your body and soul poorly and makes you want to be a better person and is a bit of a nympho...but wants kids. Then what?"Ten million other guys will descend upon her while he's pondering the cost-benefit analysis of the situation.
Why does everybody want the kid to have kids?
Besides, he's barely out of his teens - what he thinks and feels now will have little to no bearing on what he thinks and feels in five or ten years.
Hahaha, me too Gretchen, no way in hell. I didn't want kids til I was mid-3os, didn't even think about having kids. And yeah, I didn't like them much either, altho I didn't hate them, just not for me. And was NEVER a baby person at all, didn't even baby sit ever. Now I think they are adorable.
Rusty wrote: "Ms. Montambo, are you trying to seduce him?"Good Lord, Rusty! I'm not a complete lech. Matthew is 19! I just always wonder when people say that they don't want kids, if they would change their minds for the right person.
Wait a minute, Rusty! Was that your way of telling me that I'm all those things? ;)
I'm not going to change my mind, Rusty.What does "stacked" mean, 'Tambo?
Lori: "Smart" people are smart for choosing not to bring children into this overpopulated, awful world. I've already accepted the fact that I shall lead a solitary existence.
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