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message 25: by Phillip (new)

299646 Just my 'magination.....


message 24: by Rob (new)

2198088 Ha! Would that be labeled paranoia or extreme ego? ;)


My film crew fell asleep a long time ago.


message 23: by Phillip (new)

299646 In my world there is....
:)


message 22: by Rob (new)

2198088 Manuel wrote: "Thats the point of this thread!"

Well...then why are we able to observe what's going on in ANY film, sci-fi or otherwise, like we're bystanders? Is there a film crew following every occurence at all times with sufficient lighting and sound recorders?


message 21: by Manuel (new)

1008237 Ive heard of the Internal flame........
oh wait......!!!!
I meant the Eternal flame..........

Never mind


message 20: by Phillip (new)

299646 Haven't you heard of the light within?
:)


message 19: by Manuel (new)

1008237 Thats the point of this thread!


message 18: by Rob (new)

2198088 "I always questioned the light source that illuminated the beautiful universe inside the human body of "Fantastic Voyage" "


Wouldn't be much of a movie if it were all in total darkness would it?


message 17: by Manuel (new)

1008237 I never questioned the "physics" necessary to shrink the crew to perform surgery at the micro level.

I always questioned the light source that illuminated the beautiful universe inside the human body of "Fantastic Voyage"


message 16: by Terence (new)

1019174 Manuel wrote: "in all those history making moments.........everyone spoke clear American English and they understood each other without any problems...."

That's because the TARDIS projects a field that translates everyone's language into...oops, sorry, wrong far-fetched, time-travel concept ;-)

And as for shrinking people down to germ size, in The Micronauts the author sort of gets around that problem in a not-quite-as-far-fetched way: Miniature bodies are cloned from the originals and, in a process the author wisely leaves largely to the reader's imagination, the personalities are transferred.




message 15: by Phillip (new)

299646 Uhhhhh, reflecting off the ice?
;)


message 14: by Manuel (new)

1008237 It was really a stupid scene.
The submarine is bombarded with chunks of perfectly formed sheet ice that has apparently melted from the ice caps.

The crew in the submarine are looking out that huge "viewing" window and seeing the ice fall.......which reminds me....where is all that light coming from, that enables them to have such great visibility???


message 13: by Phillip (last edited May 29, 2009 12:52PM) (new)

299646 Tell that to the guy in script development who is screaming, "if we don't have sinking ice boulders, we don't have a movie!"

:)


message 12: by Manuel (new)

1008237 here is another one from my childhood.

In the 1961 movie "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
the Van Allen radiation belt catches fire and causes temperatures on Earth to start climbing, producing massive ecological damage....as ridiculous as that premise is.......I was always bothered by those scenes of the "Seaview" (submarine)while she is traveling under the Arctic Ice caps. As the ice caps start to melt, we see the submerged submarine getting pelted with huge chunks of sinking ice.

Physics was never my strong point, but even as a child, I knew water was more dense than ice, there is absolutely NO WAY for ice to sink!!!!


message 11: by Phillip (new)

299646 i saw it for sale the other day in one of the two-for-one specials....i forget what other film it was paired with, but i almost bought it out of nostalgia.


message 10: by Manuel (new)

1008237 still very enjoyable to watch, despite my pet peeves


message 9: by Phillip (new)

299646 i loved that film as a kid! i got so excited when i knew it was going to be on tv.


message 8: by Manuel (new)

1008237 One of my favorite movies is "Fantastic Voyage"
from the 1960's.

Despite the impossible physics and the incredible amount of energy required to shrink a human crew and vehicle small enough to maneuver inside a human body.....

My biggest pet peeve about this movie is the incredible amount of beauty and color inside the body of the government official on the operating table. It didnt occur to me until years later that it would probably be very dark inside our bodies........where was all that color and lighting coming from????


message 7: by Jim (new)

695116 I remember 'Time Tunnel'! That was a fun show - when I was about 8 or 10. I doubt I could stand it now.


message 6: by Becky (new)

1376766 Haha! That is far-fetched Manuel. You'd think they'd at least have accents. ;)


message 5: by Manuel (new)

1008237 I remember the old TV series the "Time Tunnel"

the two main characters enter a time machine that isnt quite ready; consequently they go back and forth through time, landing at key moments in history.

They never seemed to land at an ordinary day, they always landed as the Trojan horse is entering Troy, the day the Alamo is overrun, or the day the walls of Jericho fell.

in all those history making moments.........everyone spoke clear American English and they understood each other without any problems.


message 4: by Jim (new)

695116 Point on the problems with Minority Report.
There was a short story (I forget by who or when) about a future world where violent crimes had been pretty much gotten rid of because the cops could look into the past. They could watch a murder take place & always got the guy. In a love triangle, a guy sets himself up with a murder weapon, a scalpel, & angers the other guy until he hits him with a whip or something. This gives him cause to slash with the scalpel, killing him, leaving the girl for him.

They sit down to dinner in a restaurant & she's lukewarm to his advances. He tells her how he was smart enough to actually murder the other guy. She infuriates & belittles him, so he kills her by crushing her head with a pitcher in public.

There is no perfect way of defending against crime, but the SF writers have sure found some doozies.


message 3: by Phillip (new)

299646 i like your minority report citation. i also liked the idea, but imagine actually making that work (even philip k dick saw the problems, and included some of them in his text).

and yes, your diehard comment....are these modern uber-heroes immune to scarring?


message 2: by Jim (new)

695116 Ridiculous: Ignoring physical realities
- Space ships that fly around in space as if they had air. They have wings & know how to use them, even in vacuum. Star Wars is fun, but the suspension of belief is almost unbearable.
- So many of the action scenes in movies now do the same thing; Bruce Willis sliding down a roadway without road rash (Diehard 4) or Ultraviolet where she can balance in the oddest ways.

Cool: The idea behind Minority Report, the idea that crime will be stopped before it happens by precogs. Far-fetched, but an awesome idea.

Not so far out there: The depersonalization in so many SF films. THX, 1984, Metropolis & more.




message 1: by Phillip (new)

299646 Cite some examples of Science Fiction that really seemed far-fetched....like, "how did they ever conceive of that?" - in a good way, or in a bad way. It could be an idea that drives a book or film, or it could be a small detail that seemed ridiculous.



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