Ben wrote: "my brother and my stepdad r both color deficient its not realy color Blind cuz they can still see color just some r different shaded or completely diff colors sometimes"

One of the teachers at school is color-blind, like the rainbow is totally out of wack for him, but I don't have him so ya. I wonder if my brother & dad are color-blinded?

I saw the video too. It could have scar those kids (the experiment), but it didn't & if this was don't in a high school back then, they pretty much had their own thoughts on African Americans, so really couldn't be changed (I am not sure if i worded that right, but could you understand what I'm trying to say?)

♥EmoNeko♥ wrote: "***Wikipedia article***
Steven Armstrong was the first child to arrive to Elliot’s classroom on that day, asking why King was murdered the day before. After the rest of the class arrived, Elliot a..."

wow

hah, I'd forgotten about this topic...

Count me in!

*hi-fives chels* Whoohoo for saving Jews in WWII! (I rhymed twice!)

Roni wrote: "I'm not sure how I would have responded to that kind of thing... "

It was hard. I was one of the "chosen" ones so I got the best stuff, but many of my friends were picked on. I think I'd be helping you with the whole smuggling Jews idea, except we wouldn't get caught, of course. I call second in command!

Oh, and to add to my last comment:

Today my step dad was playing a joke and asked my boyfriend "Did you ride your bike here?"
He said -Yes.
"It isn't outside." (He was lying.)
-Yes it is.
"What color is it?"
-Green.

And then I was like: Jordan, your bike is blue.
-What! No it isn't.
"Yes it is."
-Really?
:Yeah, it's blue. You didn't know?
-The guys at the store told me it was green!
"Your parents never even told you it was blue?"
-No. Are you sure it's not green?
:I'm sure, Jordan.
-Oh..

He's had that bike for like six years and always thought it was green. Hahahahhahaa, I felt so bad for him but couldn't stop laughing.

Oh, and I can explain the genetics of colorblindness.

A father has an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. A mother has two Xs. The gene that determines colorblindness is on the X chromosome. Colorblindness is recessive, so I'll use N for normal color sight, and n for colorblindness. If there is even one N, the child can see color.

If the mother is XN XN, then she passes the normal trait onto all of her children, regardless of gender. The father can be colorblind (Xn Y) or be normal (XN Y). If the former, his daughters will carry the trait but not be affected by it. They can pass the gene onto their children, though. A son will get the Y regardless, so it doesn't matter.

If the mother is XN Xn, then she has a 50/50 chance of passing the trait to her children. The father will give the Y chromosome to sons, so the sons have a 50/50 chance of having the colorblind gene from the mother, and being colorblind.

If the father is colorblind, the daughters will also have a 50/50 chance of being colorblind. (Xn Xn or XN Xn will be their sex chromosomes)
If he isn't colorblind then the daughters will have a 50/50 chance of being a carrier. (XN XN not carrier or XN Xn carrier)

If the mother is Xn Xn (colorblind) and the father is as well, then all of their children will be colorblind. (Xn Xn girls or Xn Y boys). If the mother is colorblind and the father is normal, the girls will be carriers (XN Xn) and the sons will be colorblind (Xn Y)

As far as how it is to be colorblind, I couldn't help you. I'm personally not. I just know about genetics. :)

aN!! wrote: "I want to know more about people that are color blind. I know someone that is color blind, but I want to know more. I'm probably not even on topic, but I want to know more!!"

My boyfriend is color blind.

Chels wrote: "We did that test at my school, but it was about Hitler's idea of blond people with blue eyes. Those of us with those features got special privileges and those without were forced to sit somewhere e..."

I'm not sure how I would have responded to that kind of thing... see, I have blue eyes and light brown hair, so I probably would have been one of the people getting the special treatment. But at the same time... one of my best friends has hair and eyes that are so dark brown that they're almost black, and she's also jewish...

If I had actually been living in germany at that time I would have probably been arrested/executed for smuggling jews. :)

Actually, the thing with eye/skin color is recent. It developed in humans within the last 100,000 years.

I'm pretty sure that Darwin's theory of evolution applies. Most likely, people born with a certain advantageous trait dealing with skin color were able to survive better in certain conditions. They then passed the trait to their offspring, and it spread, until the population of one area was dominated by that trait.

We did that test at my school, but it was about Hitler's idea of blond people with blue eyes. Those of us with those features got special privileges and those without were forced to sit somewhere else and do certain things. I thought it was a really cool experiment.

Gise ♥♫ wrote: "yeah i think so :) it's reality. i love blue eyes and i don't have them. the other day i was talking with a teacher tht said tht ppl who live in, idk, rusia has blue eyes and is blond it's bcuz of the weather. tht's y in africa ppl has black skin, bcuz of the sun. and it's stupid to think tht ppl with diff skin colour or diff eyes colour r stupid or not clever. i think tht ppl tht discriminate r stupid for doing tht."


I don't think it's discrimination to say that it's the weather. That could be partially true. But really it's in the genes. But, like the thing that was said about people in Russia, maybe it is, as they say, "Something in the water".

♂ya some subs r just dumb♂ unless u get them from subway then they rock☺

it is very fun but subs take it too far. We were doing peaceful protest and she threatened to send us to the principles

♂i bet. it sounds like it would be♂

back on topic I've had the same thing done several times in my school. It's actually very intresting

my brother and my stepdad r both color deficient its not realy color Blind cuz they can still see color just some r different shaded or completely diff colors sometimes

It's a recessive gene, and in males it's very common to be red/green colorblind.

I want to know more about people that are color blind. I know someone that is color blind, but I want to know more. I'm probably not even on topic, but I want to know more!!

i bet it helped alot. i wish we could have done that at my school when i was younger. or do it now in high school n see how people react

it was teaching a lesson though to help them understand.

yeah

YEAH
i think there r very few people have unattractive eyes
but there r some people who have irresistable eyes (guys or girls)

Yeah

it's sort of like prejudice

yeah i think so :) it's reality. i love blue eyes and i don't have them. the other day i was talking with a teacher tht said tht ppl who live in, idk, rusia has blue eyes and is blond it's bcuz of the weather. tht's y in africa ppl has black skin, bcuz of the sun. and it's stupid to think tht ppl with diff skin colour or diff eyes colour r stupid or not clever. i think tht ppl tht discriminate r stupid for doing tht.

ninjafanpire im pretty shure she was talkin about the Wikipedia article

Teacher was a he, just so you know, and seriously, we were all in high school. I think we could handle it.

See, the way I see it, it was a good idea, but she never got parent consent or anything. Just within that short amount of time could have seriously damaged a child. From personal experiance, even a few days can ruin a persons whole life. For all we know that kid could have developed insecurity about themselves.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! One of my high school teachers started randomly doing that test in class, and then he told us about it afterwards. He started picking on this chick who had like brown eyes or something, and then started saying things about other colored eyed people. And the one girl started to get like offended. But then he told us about it, and it was okay.

I think that this test was a good idea. it would help children understand more of both sides of the line, and over all I think that this Idea was very clever.

***Wikipedia article***
Steven Armstrong was the first child to arrive to Elliot’s classroom on that day, asking why King was murdered the day before. After the rest of the class arrived, Elliot asked them what they knew about Negros. The children responded with various racial stereotypes such as Negros were dumb or could not hold jobs. She then asked these children if they would like to find out what it was like to be a Negro child and they agreed.[2:]

On that day, a Tuesday, she decided to make the blue-eyed children the superior first, giving them extra privileges like second helpings at lunch, access to the new jungle gym and five minutes extra at recess.[2:] She would not allow blue-eyed and brown-eyed children to drink from the same water fountain.[4:] She would offer them praise for being hard-working and intelligent. The “brownies” on the other hand, would be disparaged. She even made the brown-eyed children wear ribbons around their neck.[2:]

At first, there was resistance to the idea that brown-eyed children were not the equals of blue-eyed children. To counter this, she used a pseudo-scientific explanation for her actions by stating that the melanin responsible for making brown-eyed children… also was linked to intelligence and ability, therefore the “brownies” pigmentation would result in lack of these qualities.[2:] Shortly thereafter, this initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades also improved, doing mathematical and reading tasks that seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[4:]

The following day, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. At 2:30 on that Wednesday, Elliott told the blue-eyed children to take off their collars and the children cried and hugged each other. To reflect on the experience, she had the children write letters to Coretta Scott King and write compositions about the experience.[2:]

This exercise changed her life, both as a teacher and personally. Her reflections on what she had witnessed would influence how she would approach race relations and teaching. “She had not told her pupils to treat each other differently, only that they were different; and yet they developed the characteristic responses of discrimination. Jane Elliott felt that they did this because they had already absorbed discriminatory behavior from their parents and other adults.”[4:] Their willingness to accept the inferiority of a group of people was no small part due to the fact that children believe what adults, including teachers, tell them and follow their example. However, the brown-eyed students who had experienced discrimination on the previous Friday, seemed to modify their behavior when it was their turn to be “superior” on Monday. While they did exhibit some of the same discriminatory behaviors, they were much less intense supposedly because they already knew what it was like.[2:] The exercise seemed to suggest that black underachievement was a product of “white-dominated constructions of reality”. [1:] She believes that what has been taught in schools (1968 to the present) conditions students that whiteness is the objective. Schools teach virtually nothing of what people of color have contributed to mankind while most people would have little trouble naming 10 white males who have done so. “That’s called racism, people,” according to Elliott, as she believes it is racism to deny or ignore what other people contribute. Elliott believes that teachers perpetuate racism by how they interact with their students. Teachers will call on white boys first, then white girls. They also establish a hierarchy based on who they pay attention to, where students are seated and how groups are formed.

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So what do you think? Do you think this test was a good idea or not? We debated this in school one day just a couple weeks ago and I wanted to see how we would do it... what is your opinion?