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message 1: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 • Text worth £20,000 among missing volumes
• Some have not been seen for more than 50 years

Anil Dawar and Maev Kennedy
The Guardian, Tuesday 17 March 2009

More than 9,000 books are missing from the British Library, including Renaissance treatises on theology and alchemy, a medieval text on astronomy, first editions of 19th- and 20th-century novels, and a luxury edition of Mein Kampf produced in 1939 to celebrate Hitler's 50th birthday.

The library believes almost all have not been stolen but rather mislaid among its 650km of shelves and 150m items – although some have not been seen in well over half a century...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/17...
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Okay, you guys. I know you like books, but when they are library books, you don't get to keep them forever. Hand 'em over...


message 2: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 No. Not gonna.

::Runs in the corner with my alchemy treatise and growls::


message 3: by RandomAnthony (last edited Mar 18, 2009 10:31AM) (new)

721021 Mislay? Like they put them down in the wrong spot? Is that what they call losing things across the ocean?

:)


message 4: by Lisa (new)

83445 I hope they're still there. I have a horror of permanently lost books.


message 5: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Now, I can understand when books get in the wrong spot in a public library. The PUBLIC (bless their hearts) has access to the stacks. They put things back incorrectly. Or they put them in their backpacks and walk out without checking them out. These things happen.

But the British Library has closed stacks. Readers have to request the books, they don't get to wander willy-nilly around the library.

And - they're BRITISH! They're supposed to be GOOD at organization. I am SO DISAPPOINTED.


message 6: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 British People good at organization?

Whahahahahahaha!!!!!

This is the nation that invented and perfected the muddle through.


message 7: by Sarah Pi, lost in the supermarket (new)

642041 Maybe this is just to throw us off the trail. They've actually been stolen by a supervillain is amassing a library of arcane texts, with which to plot our doom.




message 8: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 Shhhhhsh.


message 9: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Sarah Pi wrote: "Maybe this is just to throw us off the trail. They've actually been stolen by a supervillain is amassing a library of arcane texts, with which to plot our doom.

"


Yes, yessss! Yes, Sarah Pi, that must be it!

I can the villain now, wearing a smoking jacket, stroking the books...


message 10: by Christy (new)

935176 This is very disappointing...while I have never kept a library book forever, I have been tempted to "lose" and pay the fee for out of print books that I really wanted and knew I would take care of better than "the public". I worry about books being lost forever and clearly that was a legitimate fear. But it's probably best that my selfish side is usually defeated by my kind and sharing side.


message 11: by Ruth (new)

335159 But the British Library has closed stacks. Readers have to request the books, they don't get to wander willy-nilly around the library.

Horrors!




message 12: by Sarah Pi, lost in the supermarket (new)

642041 I will now admit that somewhere at my mother's house there is a paperback that I took out of the library in San Antonio in 1985 and never managed to return when we moved. The fines were only five cents a day back then, so assuming they would charge me at that rate and not the current one, and that they still don't charge overdue for Sunday, I believe I would owe about $375.


message 13: by Lisa (new)

83445 Christy and All, On at least two occasions when I was a kid, I pretended to lose and then paid for a library book to keep that I did not know how to buy. Once I learned how to buy books, even if they weren't on the bookstore shelves, I bought my books without taking them.


message 14: by Debbie (new)

686757 Alchemy Bun? Somehow I pictured you in your smoking jacket stroking the medieval text on astronomy.....


message 15: by Sarah Pi, lost in the supermarket (new)

642041 If you stroke the alchemy text long enough, it turns into gold.


message 16: by Brooke (new)

126262 I was once very, very tempted to when the library had a copy of an out-of-print book by an author I love.

I couldn't do it. Later, a friend found a copy in a used bookstore for me. Thank goodness.


message 17: by Cosmic Sher (new)

1639357 Once, a long time ago, I found myself skipping willy-nilly through a British library and absconded with the original, unabridged copies of the Bible (before the Vatican got a hold of it), notes from Gallileo, sheeves of drawings of some Leonardo guy, and the complete works of Berkeley Breathed.

Was I wrong to keep these? I think they're all holding up uneven coffee tables somewhere here.


message 18: by Sarah Pi, lost in the supermarket (new)

642041 Gasp! That's where the Berkeley Breathed went? The Vatican has been looking for the sacred original preachings of Billy and the Boingers for years.


message 19: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Sherrie wrote: "Once, a long time ago, I found myself skipping willy-nilly through a British library and absconded with the original, unabridged copies of the Bible (before the Vatican got a hold of it), notes fro..."

Were you wearing a smoking jacket at the time, Sherrie?




message 20: by Cosmic Sher (new)

1639357 Why yes, and a velveteen mask in charcoal grey. I think it had a monocle on it as well.


message 21: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 Aha!


message 22: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 My own life of crime has been delayed by my being unable to find just the right shade of smoking jacket.
But if I were a master criminal with the proper attire, I would immediately rappel into the University of Leeds and tiptoe away with this:
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/library/adopt-a-b...


message 23: by Cosmic Sher (new)

1639357 Jackie, I will recommend an excellent tailor that specializes in smoking jackets. Just pick out your perfect jacquard. ;)


message 24: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (last edited Mar 18, 2009 03:05PM) (new)

747169 Ooooh! I myself will be tiptoeing out of the Musee Conde with a little item known as Les Tres Riches Heures du Duc de Berry under my smoking jacket.

Here is the page for March.



Lust, lust, lust. Waaaaant!


message 25: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 I love that blue with the gold, Bunny.


message 26: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 It is unquestionably one of the most beautiful books in the world. Here is another page.




message 27: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (last edited Mar 18, 2009 03:17PM) (new)

747169 Also I will be skibbling out of the Bodleian with zisssss.





message 28: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Alternatively, I would like to hide out in Powell's Bookstore, similar to what Claudia and Jamie do in From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs Basil E. Frankweiler, and read all night long.
They'd never catch me!


message 29: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 Hee hee!!


message 30: by Debbie (new)

686757 Not if I get there first Bun....tried to reproduce those once but not artistically good enough (or patient enough!!)


message 31: by Ruth (new)

335159 If the Book of Kells ever goes missing from the Trinity Library in Dublin, I shall deny everything.



message 32: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (last edited Mar 18, 2009 05:16PM) (new)

747169 ::Whistles innocently::


message 33: by Bruce (new)

1874239 skibbling????


message 34: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 Have you not met Eloise?



She is a six year old girl who lives at the Plaza Hotel, where she skibbles, skidders, slomps, sklonks, about the place. Series of books from the fifties.


message 35: by Bruce (new)

1874239 I adore Eloise! But a temporary brain cramp caused no doubt by consorting with aliens has affected my memory. Thanks for the reminder.


message 36: by Lisa (new)

83445 I adore Eloise also!

Alternatively, I would like to hide out in Powell's Bookstore, similar to what Claudia and Jamie do in From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs Basil E. Frankweiler, and read all night long.
They'd never catch me!


Love that book. Another one taking place in Powell's would be fun. Doing it would be even more fun. Powell's is on my wish list as a vacation destination.


message 37: by Debbie (new)

686757 Me too....have used Eloise as my avatar from time to time.....



message 38: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 ::Passes Bruce the alien brain spot remover::


message 39: by Bruce (new)

1874239 Scrub, Scrub, Scrub. Ah, all better now. Thanks, Bun.


message 40: by Danielle (new)

1739487
More than 9,000 books are miss...


9,000 "It's not exactly a pack of peanuts Tyrone!!!"
Someone knows ,someone knows everything!!!
Jackie, the British Library, not exactly Tip -Top.ehhh?
I'd love a part in the search and rescue


message 41: by BunWat , Book Club Cheerleader (new)

747169 Awesome title change!!@!


message 42: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Danielle wrote: Jackie, the British Library, not exactly Tip -Top.ehhh?
I'd love a part in the search and rescue


GREAT idea, Danielle!
I volunteer to help look for the missing books! I wouldn't need to be paid, I'd do it for plane fare and room and board.


message 43: by Sherri (last edited Mar 19, 2009 02:53PM) (new)

1167793 Jackie, it's the Germans who are famed for their organization skills. The British are famed for making everything look appropriate. The French get kudos for convincing the world that garbage looks fashionable.

I once "lost" a book from my school library. I was very careful about it, though. I checked out the book at the beginning of the year, loved it, and noticed it had not been checked out in two years previous to me. I returned it then, but I'd visit it every so often. Near the end of the year I noticed no one had checked it out after me. So I checked it out again, "lost" it, and paid the fine. I'm glad I did, because I've never seen another copy.

I also "traded" a book while I was in England. We stayed at a very spiffy resort hotel that was once a manor house dating back to Tudor times. The once glorious library had long ago been gutted and the shelves filled with leather bound farm reports and various things bought because they looked good, not because they were readable. The exception was a Georgette Heyer hardback I very much wanted. As it happened, the hotel library had two copies of the book. So, while touring around, I hit upon a used bookstore and purchased a little trilogy of inexpensive, but nice looking, fiction books of one sort or another, and slipped them into the place of one of the Heyer books, which later went home with me.

I don't consider it stealing. I consider it diversifying.

But, I swear, I did NOT pull off the British Library Heist! In fact, it was the British Museum bookstore that got almost $300 out of ME (plus the cost to ship home 70Lbs of irresistible books).


message 44: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 You're right, it IS the Germans that are supposed to be orderly. What was I thinking?

I hate libraries that are just supposed to LOOK good. I once heard that Barbara Streisand was having her library done in earth tones. Argh! That's what wallpaper is for, not books.

Very creative trading there, Sherri. I think I'd have been tempted to do the same, especially since the hotel library had two copies.

As for not being the culprit of the 9,000 book heist, you could have easily slipped a couple of the missing titles in with the rest of the books you shipped home.

A few books here, a few books there... It was clearly a GANG of book thieves.

:::looks around suspiciously:::


message 45: by Bruce (new)

1874239 A gang of book thieves with VERY deep pockets.

I know how you feel about designer libraries. Just recently I've run into a couple of places that sell books by the linear foot so designers can "stage a library" for their clients. And they offer bindings in color palletes.

I am still not sure if this makes me want to weep, or slaughter someone with librarians scissors and book paste. The last time this happened, it was at a halfway decent antiquarian book store in Boston. ARRRRRGGGGHHHH


message 46: by Sherri (new)

1167793 Jackie, in one of my favorite movies "Auntie Mame", Gloria -- an Upper Richmond Girl's School Girl, Top Drawer -- and her perfect clenched teeth come into Mame's apartment, which is currently full of books as Mame has gone literary, and says "Books are awfully decorative, aren't they?"


message 47: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 I remember that scene, Sherri. That was the first clue that she was no good for the boy.

I also remember the revenge, where Auntie Mame has installed hydraulic stools in her place and is torturing the girl's family with them.
Bwa ha ha!!!


message 48: by Sherri (new)

1167793 YAY! Someone else who's seen that movie! I knew I loved you, Jackie :D


message 49: by Christy (new)

935176 Last year it seemed I couldn’t open a magazine without seeing design articles suggesting I arrange books by color, stack books horizontally, or (the most horrifying) place them in the shelf spine-in so it’s just a giant wall of beige. What happens if someone actually wants to get to a book to, I don’t know…read it?


message 50: by Jackie "the Librarian", Cool Star Trek Nerd (new)

289556 Love you too, Sherri!

You know the secretary who LIVES in Auntie Mame, i.e. goes out and has a wild night on the town, and returns home drunk, pregnant, and (we find out later) married?
Well, I've wondered if that was the inspiration for the movie Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day. Which I haven't seen, so this is really idle speculation...


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