2013: The Year of Reading Proust discussion
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Reading Schedule **Final**
Ok, here are the Kindle locations for the complete boxed set version(based on Proustitute's Modern Library schedule above):
06 Jan – read to 1180
13 Jan – to 2160
20 Jan – to 3260
27 Jan – to 4220
03 Feb – to 5310
10 Feb – to 6310
17 Feb – to 7250
24 Feb – to 8320 (finish Swann's Way)
03 Mar – to 9400
10 Mar – to 10490
17 Mar – to 11530
24 Mar – to 12570
31 Mar – to 13660
07 Apr – to 14760
14 Apr – to 15770
21 Apr – to 16780
28 Apr – to 17890 (finish Within a Budding Grove)
05 May – to 19140
12 May – to 20310
19 May – to 21490
26 May – to 22700
02 Jun – to 23840
09 Jun – to 24980
16 Jun – to 26130
23 Jun – to 27470
30 Jun – to 28820 (finish The Guermantes Way)
07 Jul – to 29880
14 Jul – to 30940
21 Jul – to 31990
28 Jul – to 33020
04 Aug – to 34100
11 Aug – to 35180
18 Aug – to 36220
25 Aug – to 37160
01 Sep – to 38550 (finish Sodom and Gomorrah)
08 Sep – to 39780
15 Sep – to 41030
22 Sep – to 42180
29 Sep – to 43360
06 Oct – to 444610
13 Oct – to 45870 (finish The Captive)
20 Oct – to 46860
27 Oct – to 47760
03 Nov – to 48700
10 Nov – to 49710
17 Nov – to 50990 (finish The Fugitive)
24 Nov – to 52250
01 Dec – to 53370
08 Dec – to 54510
15 Dec – to 55630
22 Dec – to 56770
29 Dec - to 57910 (finish Time Regained)
This is only applicable to the "boxed set" Kindle version found here:
http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Library-...
I have no idea how Nooks work, and if people buy the individual Modern Library versions for Kindle, the locations would start from 0 at the start of each book (rather than continuing all the way up, for the boxed set). But I can only guess what those Kindle locations would be, because it's probably not as straightforward as subtracting out the previous location (each individual book might have introductions and pre-text notes that would impact the locations).
Proustitute wrote: "JANUARYSunday, 6 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 64 in ML edition / page 48 in the LD translation (through Combray, Part I)
Sunday, 13 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 139 in ML / page 102 in LD (page break, ..."
Very nice. Copying this to a file now. I can't guarantee I won't get overexcited and let Proust take my literary life over a little by finishing one of the volumes ahead of schedule, but since I've got three or four books going most of the time these days, this will be an excellent guide when I can only read him in smaller doses.
most excellent, Proustitute. i hope you helped yourself to your favorite treat after compiling that. and you too, Jason. i *think* nooks track the same as, or very close to, the actual book. my first e-reader was a nook but then i got a kindle and i like it better and i never got very adept with the nook.
Marieke wrote: "i *think* nooks track the same as, or very close to, the actual book."I have a Nook, but I don't have the e-book version of Proust. (I personally would feel weird reading him on an e-reader, but that's just me.)
It's close to the actual book, but not exactly. It's also not similar to Kindle at all.
If anyone here has a Nook or other e-reader they'll be reading Proust on, feel free to chime in with the pagination "cues."
i got the book-book versions. but if my library makes e-versions available for lending, i might try them, just to see, especially if they have a nook-friendly format. i'll check on that.
It does seem weird reading Proust on an electronic reader, doesn't it? But I read Woolf on the e-reader and I think I enjoyed it just as much as I would have in dead-tree version. Words are words, I suppose.
Words are words! But I also enjoy just looking at these books. :)If I find I want to read them while commuting, I hope I can borrow e-versions from the library.
I really wish publishers would start bundling, especially classics.
Oh, I would never judge. I use my e-reader all the timeI just think Proust and I have such a bond that I need the physical book in my hand when reading him.
However one reads him is irrelevant. It's the reading that matters.
Thank you! Looking forward to this. Geesh, besides at IJ, I have to remember to pop in here before the threads get out of hand.
Proustitute wrote: "However one reads him is irrelevant. It's the reading that matters."I think you and this group are going to help a lot of people appreciate, with Proust, what they may not have been able to do as easily on their own. I am looking more and more forward to this group read every day.
Yes, thank you, Proustitute. This is great. Reading with a group, especially an enthusiastic one, is so much better.
Proustitute wrote: "Oh, I would never judge. I use my e-reader all the timeI just think Proust and I have such a bond that I need the physical book in my hand when reading him.
However one reads him is irrelevant...."
i do too. i have a tendency to call myself a promiscuous reader because i read all formats. lol.
Schedule looks great!I copied the dates into a calendar - if anyone wants they can use it too. Link for Google Calendar, and for iCal.
Joshua wrote: "I copied the dates into a calendar - if anyone wants they can use it too. Link for Google Calendar, and for iCal."Wonderful!
Hello everyone! My friend Aloha is encouraging me to read Proust. I am not sure since I think have a proustate problem. Must have been all those proustitutes. I guess I'll go and look for my lost time to get some in preparation for reading the book!
Hey, at least I didn't became a fugitive who got caught and became a prisoner in the cities of the plain.
This schedule looks very manageable. It makes tackling Proust for the first time a lot less daunting.
I just realized that, considering most "moderately popular" books on Goodreads have 5,000 ratings or more, and books that are popular among the general public can easily have over 50,000 ratings on Goodreads, Marcel Proust is seriously, seriously under-appreciated on this site. As an example, Orlando has 13,507 ratings as of this posting and that is not even Woolf's most popular title. Time Regained, on the other hand, has 911 ratings. 911! Thanks to Proustitute, by the end of 2013, we will have significantly affected the Proust stats on this website.
@JasonHave you checked the French editions and other translations? I wonder if, as these would be scattered under different names on Goodreads, people are less likely to rate all editions/translations and instead just the ones they've read.
For example, a French reader might read the all-in-one massive Gallimard edition or the smaller Folio editions of each volume. So the number of reviews for the former may be less than the latter if the majority of readers prefer smaller, easier to handle books to read than doorstoppers.
With Woolf this wouldn't be the case as many of her pages link to the non-English translations whereas Proust's texts here seem to be divided into a neatly divorced French/non-French cross-section.
I wonder how much Goodreads is frequented by non-Anglophone readers? Who are, in any case, notoriously insular in their reading habits; much more so than on the Continent, for example, where a far higher proportion of reading is in translation, and people are in any case more likely to have multiple languages...
It is true there are lots of different volume types listed, but that Time Regained link in message 31 is supposed to include all translations of that particular volume, including the French. Here is a list of his complete works: http://www.goodreads.com/author/list/...Besides Swann‘s Way, no other volume has more than 2,500 ratings. And even if one were to theoretically combine a bunch of the straggler editions toward the bottom, it wouldn't amount to very much. It's just, overall, a very low on the totem pole author on Goodreads and I think we'll have a chance to change that.
Not sure about totem poles. Maybe I'm an old-fashioned elitist but I don't take social media ratings as any indication of significance - especially not quantitatively. They're more like a bestseller chart. Fifty Shades of Grey has 212,281 ratings...Raising the profile of the Recherche would be good for Goodreads, rather than good for Proust :)
Joshua wrote: "Not sure about totem poles. Maybe I'm an old-fashioned elitist but I don't take social media ratings as any indication of significance - especially not quantitatively. They're more like a bestselle..."Ratings are the least interesting part of GR for me. Some people, for whatever reason, are obsessed about the star rating system - 5 versus 10 - and become apoplectic if someone gives their favorite best-seller only one star. I'd rather read the text of individuals' reviews, in GR and elsewhere, than concern myself with empty numerical data...
The schedule looks manageable. En Janvier, mes amis!
Jason wrote: "It is true there are lots of different volume types listed, but that Time Regained link in message 31 is supposed to include all translations of that particular volume, including the French. Here i..."As a person who lives in a community where totem poles are carved, I'm happy to report that the popular "low on the totem pole" analogy is inaccurate (at least among the Tlingit people). The lower on the totem pole the figure, the more important it is in holding up everything on top of it. A carver I know tells me the figure at the top of the totem pole is the one the birds poop on. Proust being low on the totem pole is a good thing. :)
I'm thrilled about this schedule and the group... thanks, everyone, for all the contributions. Kudos especially to Proustitute!
janine wrote: "As a person who lives in a community where totem poles are carved, I'm happy to report that the popular "low on the totem pole" analogy is inaccurate (at least among the Tlingit people). The lower on th..."I stand corrected!
janine wrote: "The lower on the totem pole the figure, the more important it is in holding up everything on top of it."Wow, I didn't know that. Fascinating!
and me, too...i know you said bird, but i still got an image/the voice of Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog in my head.
I was only made aware of this fact as of about a month ago. :) I just think it's intriguing.But yes, the main point is that because of this group, more people on Goodreads will read Proust. That's awesome.
I have a nook tablet, and all of Proust on it (but i may read it on my dog-eared paperbacks). Seems that Combray ends at p. 204 on the nook. Do ereader paginations change when one changes font size?
Rick
Joshua wrote: "Schedule looks great!I copied the dates into a calendar - if anyone wants they can use it too. Link for Google Calendar, and for iCal."
Merci beaucoup, Joshua. So great to have iCal dates.
@RickI don't think the page demarcations change if you switch the font or font size. I also have a Nook, but Jason's page-by-page break down of the reading schedule is specifically for the Kindle, it would seem.
Do you have the Modern Library edition on the Nook? If so, would you care to perhaps volunteer to use your search/find function to give corresponding pages for anyone in the group who may be using a Nook? (I would, but I don't have Proust as an e-book.)
Proustitute,sure, I'd be happy to nook-ify the paginations. I do have the Modern Library version.
Rick
@Proustitute,can i give you here the nook pages and let you incorporate them as you wish in the schedule?
I've only done Swann's Way for now:
Jan 6 p. 69
Jan 13 to p. 119
Jan 20 to p. 176
Jan 27 to p. 227
Feb 3 to p. 281
Feb 10 to p. 333
Feb 17 to p. 382
Feb 24 to p. 434 (end of volume)
Thanks a lot, Rick! When you edit your post and nook-ify (great word) the remaining volumes, I'll link to your Nook pages and Jason's Kindle pages in the original post above.
Initially, we discussed among several group members in one of the threads—I think this one?—about organizing the Proust discussions by volume. This would mean one folder for each volume of the Recherche, with threads for each week's reading housed inside. It seems Goodreads doesn't allow for threads within folders, unless I clumsy up the main group page. Does anyone who has more knowledge of running group reads on here have insight/info to share regarding this?
Proustitute wrote: "Initially, we discussed among several group members in one of the threads—I think this one?—about organizing the Proust discussions by volume. This would mean one folder for each volume of the Rech..."This seems odd to me, Prostitute-- I think we should be able to do it. Want me to go in and see if I can do it?
2013: The Year of Reading Proust
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Orlando (other topics)Time Regained (other topics)
Sunday, 6 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 64 in ML edition / page 48 in the LD translation (through Combray, Part I)
Sunday, 13 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 139 in ML / page 102 in LD (page break, next section starts: “While I was reading in the garden...” / “While I read in the garden...”)
Sunday, 20 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 224 in ML / page 162 in LD (to the paragraph beginning: “It is perhaps from another impression which I received at Montjouvain...” / “It was perhaps from an impression received also near Montjouvain...”)
Sunday, 27 Jan: Swann's Way, to page 299 in ML / page 220 in LD (to the paragraph beginning: “And so, when the pianist had finished...” / “And so when the pianist had finished...”)
FEBRUARY
Sunday, 3 Feb: Swann's Way, to page 379 in ML / page 277 in LD (end of page in ML, to the paragraph beginning “One day, when reflections of this sort had brought him back...” / “One day when reflections of this kind were leading him back...”)
Sunday, 10 Feb: Swann's Way, to page 457 in ML / page 334 in LD (to the paragraph beginning “It was at the Marquise de Saint-Euverte’s...” / “It was at the home of the Marquise de Saint-Euverte...”)
Sunday, 17 Feb: Swann's Way, to page 529 in ML / page 386 in LD (to the paragraph beginning: “On certain evenings...”)
Sunday, 24 Feb: Swann's Way, finish
MARCH
Sunday, 3 Mar: Within a Budding Grove, to page 83 (to the paragraph beginning: “I continued to go along the Champs-Elysées on fine days...”)
Sunday, 10 Mar: Within a Budding Grove, to page 167 (to the paragraph beginning: “Meanwhile we had taken our places at table...”)
Sunday, 17 Mar: Within a Budding Grove, to page 248 (to the paragraph beginning: “Granted that the intellectual distinction of a salon and its elegance...”)
Sunday, 24 Mar: Within a Budding Grove, to page 332 (to the paragraph beginning: “There is perhaps nothing that gives us so strong an impression...”)
Sunday, 31 Mar: Within a Budding Grove, to page 417 (to the paragraph beginning: “After dinner, when I had gone upstairs...”)
APRIL
Sunday, 7 Apr: Within a Budding Grove, to page 502 (page break, next section starts: “That day, as for some days past...”)
Sunday, 14 Apr: Within a Budding Grove, to page 582 (to the paragraph beginning: “I paced up and down the room...”)
Sunday, 21 Apr: Within a Budding Grove, to page 661 (to the paragraph beginning: “When we had finished eating we would play games...”)
Sunday, 28 Apr: Within a Budding Grove, finish
MAY
Sunday, 5 May: The Guermantes Way, to page 93 (to the paragraph beginning: “To return to the problem of sound...”)
Sunday, 12 May: The Guermantes Way, to page 183 (to the paragraph beginning: “I was wretched at having failed to say good-bye...”)
Sunday, 19 May: The Guermantes Way, to page 273 (to the paragraph beginning: “Mme de Guermantes had sat down...”)
Sunday, 26 May: The Guermantes Way, to page 362 (to the paragraph beginning: “Mme de Villeparisis meanwhile was not too well pleased...”)
JUNE
Sunday, 2 June: The Guermantes Way, to page 450 (end of page, to the paragraph beginning: “Luckily, we were soon rid of Françoise’s daughter...”)
Sunday, 9 June: The Guermantes Way, to page 540 (to the paragraph beginning: “It was Robert de Saint-Loup...”)
Sunday, 16 June: The Guermantes Way, to page 631 (to the paragraph beginning: “As for the Guermantes of the true flesh and blood...”)
Sunday, 23 June: The Guermantes Way, to page 728 (to the paragraph beginning: “There was at Combray a Rue de Saintrailles...”)
Sunday, 30 June: The Guermantes Way, finish
JULY
Sunday, 7 July: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 82 (to the paragraph beginning: “In the ordinary course of life...”)
Sunday, 14 July: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 164 (to the paragraph beginning: “We were told that the carriage was at the door...”)
Sunday, 21 July: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 245 (to the end of Part Two: Chapter One)
Sunday, 28 July: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 326 (to the paragraph beginning: “”About this time there occurred at the Grand Hotel a scandal...”)
AUGUST
Sunday, 4 Aug: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 407 (to the paragraph beginning: “The faithful entered the drawing room...”)
Sunday, 11 Aug: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 489 (to the paragraph beginning: “By this time, Mme Cottard was fast asleep...”)
Sunday, 18 Aug: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 568 (to the paragraph beginning: “After dinner the car would bring Albertine back...”)
Sunday 25 Aug: Sodom and Gomorrah, to page 641 (to the paragraph beginning: “Cottard arrived at length...”)
SEPTEMBER
Sunday, 1 Sept: Sodom and Gomorrah, finish
Sunday, 8 Sept: The Captive, to page 93 (to the paragraph beginning: “On other evenings, I undressed...”)
Sunday, 15 Sept: The Captive, to page 187 (to the paragraph beginning: “Already, in the case of quite a number of woman at any rate...”)
Sunday, 22 Sept: The Captive, to page 277 (to the paragraph beginning: “I guessed at once that M. de Charlus...”)
Sunday, 29 Sept: The Captive, to page 368 (to the paragraph beginning: “Since M. de Charlus also enjoyed repeating what one person had said...”)
OCTOBER
Sunday, 6 Oct: The Captive, to page 462 (to the paragraph beginning: “Already for some little time I had felt...”)
Sunday, 13 Oct: The Captive, finish
Sunday, 20 Oct: The Fugitive, to page 637 (to the paragraph beginning: “Set free once more, released from the cage...”)
Sunday, 27 Oct: The Fugitive, to page 708 (page break, to the section beginning: “I had suffered indeed at Balbec...”)
NOVEMBER
Sunday, 3 Nov: The Fugitive, to page 783 (to the paragraph beginning: “A month later, the Swann girl...”)
Sunday, 10 Nov: The Fugitive, to page 860 (to the paragraph beginning: “Meanwhile, Mme de Villeparisis...”)
Sunday, 17 Nov: The Fugitive, finish
Sunday, 24 Nov: Time Regained, to page 88 (to the paragraph beginning: “I had, in any case, not remained long...”)
DECEMBER
Sunday, 1 Dec: Time Regained, to page 176 (to the paragraph beginning: “These men, as they chatted quietly together...”)
Sunday, 8 Dec: Time Regained, to page 265 (to the paragraph beginning: “But this species of optical illusion...”)
Sunday, 15 Dec: Time Regained, to page 354 (to the paragraph beginning: “And now I have begun to understand...”)
Sunday, 22 Dec: Time Regained, to page 445 (to the paragraph beginning: “I told Mme de Guermates...”)
Sunday, 29 Dec: Time Regained, finish
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For Kindle-friendly complete six-pack Modern Library edition paginations that coincide with the above, see Jason's post here.
The Nook paginations for the six-pack ML edition is here.