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Franklin Pierce (The American Presidents, #14)
by Michael F. Holt, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. , Sean Wilentz
it's franklin pierce, y'all!!!

new hampshire's favorite son!
america's dreamiest president!
congress' hardest drinker!
a wonderful paradox of a man - he wasn't pro-slavery, he just hated abolitionists. how does that even work?? i'll tell you how: cuz frank loved rules. he fucking loved that constitution more than he loved his depressed, socially awkward, rich wife, and those filthy abolitionists were trying to destroy it, and therefore america.watch out abolitionists!
it's true, he is considered to be one of the worst. presidents. ever. but it's not his fault he was woefully unqualified. he was pretty, and pretty people are used to everybody paying attention to them and supporting everything they do whether it should be supported or not. it doesn't mean they are competent to serve. franklin was nominated, he batted his big eyes and said "sure, i'll do it. we going to the bar afterwards?? will there be any abolitionists there?? there had fucking well better not be"
the biggest criticism of pierce (besides being "responsible" "for" "the" "civil" "war")was that he tried to please too many people, and it all went horribly wrong. but i still maintain that he was a better president than zachary taylor. franklin pierce just wanted to make everyone happy, and to keep the democratic party together. he just didn't know quite how to do that.but he didn't actually seek candidacy, he was sort of shoehorned into it. here are some early signs that he might not have been the best candidate to lead our country:
priorities: "in the dormitory at night, when solitary study was the prescribed regimen, pierce was famous for bursting into other students' room to start furniture-smashing wrestling matches"
education: "as a result of pierce's carefree behavior, he ranked dead last academically in his class by the end of his sophomore year"
military finesse: "In his first serious battle, pierce sat astride a horse given to him by his concord townsmen and was ready to lead the brigade in a frontal assault on an enemy position. but a mexican artillery salvo frightened pierce's steed, causing it to buck and throwing pierce's groin violently against the saddle pommel. pierce briefly lost consciousness and began to fall from the saddle. his horse tripped and fell on pierce's knee, resulting in a serious and painful injury....in the brigade's next battle pierce, safely on foot - or so he thought - twisted the same knee injured in the previous fall and collapsed in acute pain. again his men marched by as their commander lay on the ground. this time pierce managed to hobble after his men, but by the time he reached them the serious fighting had ended. finally, pierce's brigade took part in the storming of chapultepec, the final battle of the entire campaign, but pierce did not accompany them, he lay instead in a sick tent plagued with acute diarrhea."
and ohhhhh god, the accolades that pour all over abraham lincoln... abraham schlincoln: there are a gazillion books devoted to that gangly bastard, while franklin pierce gets this tiny-ass book?? but what no one wants to remember is that the only reason that the republican party even formed, and therefore the only way that lincoln could have been elected, was because pierce made such a hash of the democrats, dividing them against themselves until there was nothing "swinging-dick" buchanan could fix in time. so, you're welcome, lincoln-lovers.
but isn't this america???
aren't we supposed to value and over-expose our most attractive members even if their accomplishments are negligible or morally questionable?? where are all my franklin pierce dolls and t-shirts and bedroom slippers?
and lord knows he had enough problems without people giving him a hard time about slavery issues. all his kids died, one of them in a train accident coming home FROM A FUNERAL!! i mean, really, cut frankie some slack.
and it's partly a case of wrong time, wrong place. if this had happened a little bit later in time, there would have been one of those wacky misadventure-type biopic movies where someone is mistakenly placed in a job because of mistaken identity but remarkably overcomes knowing nothing and succeeds and becomes the best at whatever it is they do. that should have been pierce's legacy.
instead, a lot of whiners about this civil war. let me just leave you with this: without the civil war, without BOOKS about the civil war, what on earth would i get my uncle for christmas??
i rest my case.
by Michael F. Holt, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. , Sean Wilentz
karen's review
bookshelves: americas-favorite-president, nonfictions
Jan 05, 12
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Read from April 18 to 20, 2010
it's franklin pierce, y'all!!!

new hampshire's favorite son!
america's dreamiest president!
congress' hardest drinker!
a wonderful paradox of a man - he wasn't pro-slavery, he just hated abolitionists. how does that even work?? i'll tell you how: cuz frank loved rules. he fucking loved that constitution more than he loved his depressed, socially awkward, rich wife, and those filthy abolitionists were trying to destroy it, and therefore america.watch out abolitionists!
it's true, he is considered to be one of the worst. presidents. ever. but it's not his fault he was woefully unqualified. he was pretty, and pretty people are used to everybody paying attention to them and supporting everything they do whether it should be supported or not. it doesn't mean they are competent to serve. franklin was nominated, he batted his big eyes and said "sure, i'll do it. we going to the bar afterwards?? will there be any abolitionists there?? there had fucking well better not be"
the biggest criticism of pierce (besides being "responsible" "for" "the" "civil" "war")was that he tried to please too many people, and it all went horribly wrong. but i still maintain that he was a better president than zachary taylor. franklin pierce just wanted to make everyone happy, and to keep the democratic party together. he just didn't know quite how to do that.but he didn't actually seek candidacy, he was sort of shoehorned into it. here are some early signs that he might not have been the best candidate to lead our country:
priorities: "in the dormitory at night, when solitary study was the prescribed regimen, pierce was famous for bursting into other students' room to start furniture-smashing wrestling matches"
education: "as a result of pierce's carefree behavior, he ranked dead last academically in his class by the end of his sophomore year"
military finesse: "In his first serious battle, pierce sat astride a horse given to him by his concord townsmen and was ready to lead the brigade in a frontal assault on an enemy position. but a mexican artillery salvo frightened pierce's steed, causing it to buck and throwing pierce's groin violently against the saddle pommel. pierce briefly lost consciousness and began to fall from the saddle. his horse tripped and fell on pierce's knee, resulting in a serious and painful injury....in the brigade's next battle pierce, safely on foot - or so he thought - twisted the same knee injured in the previous fall and collapsed in acute pain. again his men marched by as their commander lay on the ground. this time pierce managed to hobble after his men, but by the time he reached them the serious fighting had ended. finally, pierce's brigade took part in the storming of chapultepec, the final battle of the entire campaign, but pierce did not accompany them, he lay instead in a sick tent plagued with acute diarrhea."
and ohhhhh god, the accolades that pour all over abraham lincoln... abraham schlincoln: there are a gazillion books devoted to that gangly bastard, while franklin pierce gets this tiny-ass book?? but what no one wants to remember is that the only reason that the republican party even formed, and therefore the only way that lincoln could have been elected, was because pierce made such a hash of the democrats, dividing them against themselves until there was nothing "swinging-dick" buchanan could fix in time. so, you're welcome, lincoln-lovers.
but isn't this america???
aren't we supposed to value and over-expose our most attractive members even if their accomplishments are negligible or morally questionable?? where are all my franklin pierce dolls and t-shirts and bedroom slippers?
and lord knows he had enough problems without people giving him a hard time about slavery issues. all his kids died, one of them in a train accident coming home FROM A FUNERAL!! i mean, really, cut frankie some slack.
and it's partly a case of wrong time, wrong place. if this had happened a little bit later in time, there would have been one of those wacky misadventure-type biopic movies where someone is mistakenly placed in a job because of mistaken identity but remarkably overcomes knowing nothing and succeeds and becomes the best at whatever it is they do. that should have been pierce's legacy.
instead, a lot of whiners about this civil war. let me just leave you with this: without the civil war, without BOOKS about the civil war, what on earth would i get my uncle for christmas??
i rest my case.
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So many facts I never knew about Franklin Pierce in this review!!
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seriously - the worst part is that this book doesn't mention the egg incident at all.shoddy scholarship.
i think it shows that there is more to Franklin Pierce than one book can contain. Maybe your place in history is to bring together all of the Franklin Pierce biographies into the one definitive account of him.
did you know that has was having a sleepover with nathaniel hawthorne when hawthorne died??i think it was the ghost stories what did it.
really? was it the ghost stories or did pierce start up one of his late night furniture breaking wrestling matches?
James Buchanan wanted to let the South secede thus giving them a head start until Lincoln came along. That's pretty bad presidenting. And he wasn't even attractive.
seriously. doughface, indeed. no wonder he never got married.greg - good call there on the wrestling. connor would say that maybe pierce read hawthorne his own books and bored him to death.
Great review, informative ("furniture-smashing wrestling matches") and entertaining ("furniture smashing wrestling matches). I agree that Buchanan was terrible. For a guy who had been a Congressman, Senator, Ambassador to Russia and Great Britain, and Secretary of State he was pretty shitty at the POTUS job. It's probably him or Harding for worst POTUS ever.On another note, when I read the author's name I couldn't help ending it with an exclamation mark (Michael Holt!). "Wow," I thought to myself, "I'm really grasping for straws with my Arrested Development references." Then the Franklin Comes Alive LP link. "It ain't easy being white (or brown)." I'm sure Mr. Pierce would agree.
my whole life is an arrested development reference.and i gotta come clean - i know very little about buchanan. i only know franklin pierce, and some incidental facts picked up from reading about pierce.
but i know many many things about pierce. as seen in my excellent review for another pierce bio:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...
I'm sure there would be other reasons, but one reason not to like the abolitionists is that they were so freaking earnest. They were angry, intent, passionate, deeply religious, and had a high percentage of non-drinkers in their membership. Great for leading a social movement, not so much fun to hang with.Great review, Karen.
Okay, Buchanan's face sorta' looks like: 

maybe. If you you an eraser on all the right parts.
Hopefully, he'll play him in the Buchanan HBO movie.
Wow! A biography about Franklin written by "Michael Holt!" No we know where Arrested Development got all their material.I feel (only from this review because I know shockingly little about presidential bios) like there's some kind of Bush/Pierce parallel that could be made the way the Obama campaign played up the Obama/Lincoln parallel. Specifically, the late night wrestling matches rang true. I also think that when we talk about the sleepover at Hawthorne's we should go ahead and use the scare quotes - "wrestling matches."
yeah, pierce was pretty rambunctious.but he had a heart of gold.
and his father was also a politician, so feel free to run wild with the analogies.
but i totally ♥ him, and i don't feel the same about bush. too soon.
Yes. He's pretty chiseled. He's got kind of a Heath Ledger thing going on. And with that kind of blooper reel, how could you not appreciate him? Plus, someone has to balance out the century-ago generation that probably felt about him the way we do about Bush. It's practically your duty to ❤ him.
here's a secret - i only ♥ him because i had never even heard of him until 5 years ago. woeful public school education - i thought someone was messing with me when they brought his name up. so i felt guilty that he was the only president i had never heard of. and now - i have a whole goodreads.com shelf devoted to him. and when my dad moves to n.h., i am going to make him get me many souvenirs.don't tell anyone i am dumb.
oh, hello, internet, i didn't see you standing there.
(Your secret's safe with me and the world-wide web)It seems pretty typical of history to tell you all about the giants of industry and leave out women, and the Presidents, and other people like that who didn't matter. Wonder who runs things around here? I'm not bitter, though.
yes, the bookstore.... i just checked out their website.... worth a trip to browse? a friend of mine told me it's a cool bookstore, and i just wondered if you'd be there,and what you thought?
oh, lord, no! it can be anyone!! cather is a good choice. i've only heard good things, and yet i have never read her. start painting your banners!
oh, the strand is a fantastic bookstore. i mean, if you are looking for one specific book, it's not your store, but it is the best browsing-store left in new york. so many treasures i have found there! definitely go if you can.
karen wrote: "oh, lord, no! it can be anyone!! cather is a good choice. i've only heard good things, and yet i have never read her. start painting your banners!"Willa Cather is wonderful, Karen. Death Comes for the Archbishop is one of my favorite books. Try her.
Miriam wrote: "C'mon, guys, it is Buchanan's birthday! Where's the love?"Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dead white guy, happy birthday to you.
karen wrote: "where are the fireworks?? poor white men - always forgotten by history..."Not when they have you to read their biographies and remind us.
I'm doing up my banner for the pre-Socratics: the Stoics, the Skeptics, the Epicureans. Especially the Epicureans.
we could get ourselves quite a parade going!but this is the only white man i am going to rescue.
you wanna know about fillmore, that's on you.
Hey, you're an educator! How does it feel?
You should probably read every president's biography and post your findings here. It would sure be nice of you. ;)
You should probably read every president's biography and post your findings here. It would sure be nice of you. ;)
oh, man, maybe when i'm grown. if i have to read all my grandma's attic books and proust, there is no room for chester a arthur. maybe i will just go to wikipedia and make some flash cards for y'all.
out of felt.
oh, then definitely not. greg has played pool with me before, he knows the extent of my skills.i like posing with the stick-thing, though, it makes me feel tough, like pat benatar.
after another night of failed attempts of female companionship, how refreshing to come home to franklin. bravo karenina, a joy to read this review
cather is wonderful. i 've not read all of her books,but, what i have read is so rich in language,and quite beautiful. i'd truly recommend her!
There's a big contingent of excrement and vagina themed items I would gladly omit, but yeah, they're got some cool stuff.
hhah i know - have you seen this:http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/75...
this book is awesome. someday i will review it, maybe. but there are things in here that boggle the mind.



