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The Optimist's Daughter by Eudora Welty
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Aug 14, 2012

really liked it
bookshelves: southern
Recommended to Jeffrey by: On the Southern Literary Trail
Read from August 14 to 16, 2012 , read count: 1

"Memory lived not in initial possession but in the freed hands, pardoned and freed, and in the heart that can empty but fill again, in the patterns restored by dreams."


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Eudora Welty

Eudora Welty won the Pulitzer Prize for this book in 1973. It was written much later than the bulk of the rest of her work. She had, as it turned out, one more little gem left in her pen. I've read some other reviews and realize that the book was confusing to some people even to the point that they gave up relatively early in the book. I understand because you see we are outsiders in this book. We are missing the beginning and really a lot of the beginning. Conversations are flying around our heads that we have no basis of knowledge to fully understand. The people in this book have known each other their entire lives and their conversations flitter from decade to decade without pausing to fill in the gaps for those of us just visiting.

It was hard to have sympathy for the character Fay McKelva, but it was only after I had finished the book and had pondered on my feelings for a while that I realized how crazy that town was driving this little girl from Madrid, Texas. Fay wasn't bright enough or patient enough to just listen, nod, and accumulate knowledge. I always think of myself in these situations as the Antonio Banderas character from the superb movie The thirteenth Warrior. He is an Arab who is placed with twelve Norse warriors on a quest and he doesn't know a single word of their language, but he keeps listening.

So the key to this book was to keep listening.

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Antonio Banderas as Ahmad ibn Fadlan

Laurel Hand comes back home to Mississippi to be a support for her father, Judge McKelva, during a minor surgery to correct a torn retina in his eye. His wife, Fay McKelva, younger than his daughter is also there to offer support, but really seems to be more of a hindrance than a help to the recover of her 72 year old husband.

Unexpectedly the Judge takes a turn for the worse and Laurel feels the need to stay at the hospital hoping he will start to get better. I've spent time at a hospital waiting for people to die and the hospital becomes this condensed warped existence that I'll let Laurel explain.

"A strange milky radiance shone in a hospital corridor at night, like moonlight on some deserted street. The whitened floor, the whitened wall and ceiling, were set with narrow bands of black receding into the distance, along which the spaced-out doors, graduated from large to small, were all closed. But of course the last door on the right of the corridor, the one standing partway open as usual, was still her father's."

She reads to her father, trying to find the right book that will help him return to health. One of her fondest memories as a child was listening to her father and mother read to one another.

"When Laurel was a child, in this room and in this bed where she lay now, she closed her eyes like this and the rhythmic, nighttime sound of the two beloved reading voices came rising in turn up the stairs every night to reach her. She could hardly fall asleep, she tried to keep awake, for pleasure. She cared for her own books, but she cared more for theirs, which meant their voices. In the lateness of the night, their two voices reading to each other where she could hear them, never letting a silence divide or interrupt them, combined into one unceasing voice and wrapped her around as she listened, as still as if she were asleep. She was sent to sleep under a velvety cloak of words, richly patterned and stitched with gold, straight out of a fairy tale, while they went reading on into her dreams."

Judge McKelva dies and then the struggle between the daughter that has known him her entire life, and the new wife that has only known him a short time becomes painful. The wife makes all the arraignments.

In the words of Fay:

"How could the biggest fool think I was going to bury my husband with his old wife? He's going in the new part."

I took that slap to the face right along with Laurel. I felt the heat rise in my neck and the need to say "you have no right", but the fact of the matter is Fay does have the right.

Laurel has lost her mother, her husband, and her father. It made me think about the people I have lost. I lost a sister, who died on my birthday. She only breathed for three days. I lost a saintly grandmother who died in such horrific pain that I have never forgiven the religion that she spent so much time nurturing. I've lost friends who died way too young, Chris Blue at 31, Mike Achilles at 55, and David Thompson at 38. My father's twin sister, Shirley, who was my favorite aunt died at 46. I went to see her near the end. She was a husk of her former beauty. A woman that knew I was coming and wanted lipstick for her lips. She always wanted to look her best even after cancer had shrunk her features tight against her skull and had taken her lustrous dark brown hair. She told me I looked like a movie star and how proud she was of me. I will never forget her bony fingers in my hand as fragile as glass. To say that this book got under my skin might be an understatement.

Laurel remembers her husband Phillip and what she remembers is his hands. I can identify with his double-jointed issues see picture below. Phillip had large, good hands, and extraordinary thumbs--double-jointed where they left the palms, nearly at right angles; their long, blunt tips curved strongly back. When she watched his right hand go about its work, it looked to her like the Hand of his name.

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One of my Freaky Double-Jointed Thumbs

This can be a confusing book, but my advice is to hang in there. Let the language become more familiar as the book advances. We don't know these people. We are strangers in a small town in Mississippi. We need time to catch up with what we need to know to even support our end of a conversation. This book may very well haunt you. A day later after finishing it I'm still thinking about it and having rolling tides of emotions. I'm mad at Judge McKelva for giving up too easily. Laurel has lost too much too soon in life and she really needed him to come back. He needed to let her read him back to health.

The people are telling stories about Judge McKelva at the viewing and Laurel is amazed at how little they seemed to understand about his real accomplishments. "And everybody had already forgotten about that part of his life, his work, his drudgery. This town deserved him no more than Fay deserved him, she thought, her finger in the dust on what he'd written." It is scary to think about being so misunderstood after we are gone. We can only hope our children understand and can tell the stories the right way to our grandchildren.

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Jeffrey Keeten A few pictures will be added after Photobucket is up and running again.


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Steve I'm liking it even without the pictures, Jeffrey. Nice job mixing quotes and commentary!


Jeffrey Keeten Steve wrote: "I'm liking it even without the pictures, Jeffrey. Nice job mixing quotes and commentary!"

Thanks Steve! I always feel like I bite off more than I can chew in these reviews. Bringing all the elements together takes some tap dancing.


Diane Barnes It's interesting that you felt as though you didn't know the people or the town, as a reader, and had to listen to understand. It was just the opposite for me; I felt as though I had stepped out for a minute and came back in the middle of the conversation, especially at the visitation in the home.


Jeffrey Keeten Diane wrote: "It's interesting that you felt as though you didn't know the people or the town, as a reader, and had to listen to understand. It was just the opposite for me; I felt as though I had stepped out ..."

I must apologize for this review. I had intended to have some pics to help tie in why I selected some of these pieces, but photobucket has been down for maintenance all day long. I finally loaded what I had with some frustration.

I had read other reviews where people had struggled to finish this very short book and wanted to address what they may have been experiencing while attempting to read this novel. At first I found the dialogue a little difficult to follow, but knew that if I hung in there and let more of it wash over me I would begin to catch up. I wanted to offer encouragement to people to go back and give it another look because I ended up really liking this book. It doesn't surprise me that you identified better with the dialogue as I assume you have those types of interactions frequently while living in the South.


Kris Great review as always, Jeffrey, It sounds like dropping the reader into the midst of relationships and conversations already underway could transfer a sense of being off balance when returning home to a small town after some time away - you have to adjust to the fact that, while some of the landscape may look the same, life has continued, requiring you to deal with memories while also addressing the present. I haven't read this yet, so it's possible this isn't the dynamic at all. :)


Jeffrey Keeten Kris wrote: "Great review as always, Jeffrey, It sounds like dropping the reader into the midst of relationships and conversations already underway could transfer a sense of being off balance when returning hom..."

Oh yes exactly Kris. After an initial what the heck is going on moment I stuck with it and started to catch up. Thanks for your support Kris. I will bet you will like this book.


Gary I remember liking this book very much......but it's been so many years since I've read it.....I imagine I need to give it another read sometime in the near future.

Great review,Jeff! Thanks a lot for your insights!


Jeffrey Keeten Gary wrote: "I remember liking this book very much......but it's been so many years since I've read it.....I imagine I need to give it another read sometime in the near future.

Great review,Jeff! Thanks a lot ..."


Thanks Gary! I can see myself rereading this in a few years.


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B0nnie Jeffrey, wonderful touching review (damn! no pun intended). The double joint is freaky. Does it help you play guitar?


Jeffrey Keeten B0nnie wrote: "Jeffrey, wonderful touching review (damn! no pun intended). The double joint is freaky. Does it help you play guitar?"

It took me a long time to get my thumb muscles stronger so that my thumbs would quit jackknifing at the joint nearest the palm. I did play guitar for a while as a kid until sports starting taking up all my spare time. My weird thumbs are just more a conversation piece for a pub gathering after everyone has had a pint or two. Thanks Bonnie!


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Terry Very nice, and moving, review Jeffrey! There's definitely something to be said for being dropped right into the middle of a story as long as the author can pull it off.


Jeffrey Keeten Terry wrote: "Very nice, and moving, review Jeffrey! There's definitely something to be said for being dropped right into the middle of a story as long as the author can pull it off."

Thank you Terry! I don't mind not understanding everything. Sometime a reader just has to relax and let it wash over them for a while. Short book too only 181 pages.


message 14: by Sue (new) - rated it 4 stars

Sue Nice review Jeffrey. I also didn't mind being dropped in the middle of things. Having recently read The Collected Stories, I knew Welty would take care of me, the reader. And the way she did, in fits and starts, added to dimensions of the characters for me. As I think of it, once again I am amazed at her techniques for providing information. Here, so much is provided by the characters themselves in conversation. One clever writer!


Lawyer Superb impressions that make me eagerly anticipate my Kansas cousin's reviews. I think I'll put on "Twin Sons of Different Mothers." Your reviews are always a special treat.

Mike


Jeffrey Keeten Sue wrote: "Nice review Jeffrey. I also didn't mind being dropped in the middle of things. Having recently read The Collected Stories, I knew Welty would take care of me, the reader. And the way she did, in fi..."

Thank you Sue, clever writer indeed. My respect grew for her the deeper I went in the novel.


message 17: by Jeffrey (last edited Aug 17, 2012 11:34AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jeffrey Keeten Mike wrote: "Superb impressions that make me eagerly anticipate my Kansas cousin's reviews. I think I'll put on "Twin Sons of Different Mothers." Your reviews are always a special treat.

Mike"


Thanks Sir Michael. I try to convey what the book made me think about while I was reading it. I know sometimes my thought processes don't make sense to everyone, but generally it gives my reviews a different flavor. You, my friend, are the reviewer I aspire to be.


message 18: by Sue (new) - rated it 4 stars

Sue I feel I'm in the midst of some heavyweight reviewers here. And it's such a pleasure to be enjoying reading both your reviews, Jeffrey and Mike.


Jeffrey Keeten Sue wrote: "I feel I'm in the midst of some heavyweight reviewers here. And it's such a pleasure to be enjoying reading both your reviews, Jeffrey and Mike."

Thanks Sue. Reading these great reviews from so many inspired readers is such a treat for me.


Wordsmith Beautiful Jeffery. The beauty of this book is in it's subtlety, which, upon further reflection, isn't subtle after all. You come to realize it's right there on the page, in every meaningful passage that Welty pens. As you highlighted here, with just a few. A really (more than) nice review.


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Gary Your thumb, yikes...... lol.


Jeffrey Keeten Wordsmith wrote: "Beautiful Jeffery. The beauty of this book is in it's subtlety, which, upon further reflection, isn't subtle after all. You come to realize it's right there on the page, in every meaningful passage..."

Thank you Wordsmith. The book, though small in length, packed a wallop that grew in significance as I advanced through the pages. It made me consider things I've faced with new perspective and also think about things I haven't faced yet like the death of a parent. It also gave me opportunity to show off my freaky thumbs. haha


Jeffrey Keeten Gary wrote: "Your thumb, yikes...... lol."

It gave girls an excuse to play with my hands. haha.


notgettingenough I confess, I started this and I really am struggling. Your review is making me feel guilty for putting it aside...


Jeffrey Keeten notgettingenough wrote: "I confess, I started this and I really am struggling. Your review is making me feel guilty for putting it aside..."

Sometimes with books it is just timing. If you are struggling, no shame in putting it aside and picking it back up later. It might strike you totally different a few months or years from now.


Jeffrey Keeten Sabah wrote: "Oh Jeffrey, thank you for being so open and penning such a heartwrenching review. It was poignantly painful to read the many people, friends and family, who have left your side with you left behind..."

We are the only species on the planet that knows we are going to die. This knowledge is inescapable and as solemn reminders from time to time we lose people. Sometimes they are vibrant healthy people who are joking with us one day and tragically gone, gone, gone the next. Thank you Sabah for your kind words.


notgettingenough Jeffrey wrote: "notgettingenough wrote: "I confess, I started this and I really am struggling. Your review is making me feel guilty for putting it aside..."

Sometimes with books it is just timing. If you are stru..."


So true. I've gained more than once by doing that.


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Ivy Bookqueen Great review Jeffrey really touch my heart


Jeffrey Keeten Ivy wrote: "Great review Jeffrey really touch my heart"

Thank you Ivy! Ghosts haunt us all.


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Carol I wish I had read all of the bad reviews before purchasing this book. I wish I had seen the photograph of the author before purchasing this book. I wish reviewers wouldn't post their vanity reviews that take up 2 pages of space and say nothing important.


Jeffrey Keeten Carol wrote: "I wish I had read all of the bad reviews before purchasing this book. I wish I had seen the photograph of the author before purchasing this book. I wish reviewers wouldn't post their vanity reviews..."

What a ray of sunshine you are this Sunday morning. I'm confused about your bitter, ugly comments. You don't like the appearance of the author? Are you so shallow that someone has to look a certain way before you'll read their book? This book won the pulitzer prize for fiction in 1972 so others besides myself believe this book is worth reading. I'm sorry that you didn't like my review, but I'm not sure what you mean by a vanity review. I just wrote what I wanted to write about my experience reading the book. I'm just a reader who likes to write. I apologize if I didn't say anything "important", but then neither have you except to attack me for reasons that are somewhat beyond my understanding. Have a great day Carol. I hope you feel better after ripping a slice or two off of me.

This is a open site that anyone can post their opinions about books they have read. If you don't like my reviews, which is obvious, please don't read them. I'm sure there are other great reviewers on this site that fit you better. I liked this book. I'm sorry that you didn't.


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Sue Jeffrey wrote: "Carol wrote: "I wish I had read all of the bad reviews before purchasing this book. I wish I had seen the photograph of the author before purchasing this book. I wish reviewers wouldn't post their ..."

Throwing a smile your way, Jeffrey. I just read the review again and it reminds me that I do want to read this book again someday. Welty writes so well.


Diane Barnes Maybe Carol should think before posting such negative comments. Maybe Carol should stop reading anything at all, since she seems to be too shallow to appreciate much of anything. I could keep going, but I'll stop right there.


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Sue Diane wrote: "Maybe Carol should think before posting such negative comments. Maybe Carol should stop reading anything at all, since she seems to be too shallow to appreciate much of anything. I could keep going..."

Huzzah!


Jeffrey Keeten Sue wrote: "Jeffrey wrote: "Carol wrote: "I wish I had read all of the bad reviews before purchasing this book. I wish I had seen the photograph of the author before purchasing this book. I wish reviewers woul..."

Thanks Sue! Ever so often I have someone parachute in and leave a steaming pile of words and then they slink back into the woodwork. This one was bizarre.


Jeffrey Keeten Diane wrote: "Maybe Carol should think before posting such negative comments. Maybe Carol should stop reading anything at all, since she seems to be too shallow to appreciate much of anything. I could keep going..."

The whole thing with the photo of the author is mystifying. I'm not sure what she means by that...she is too ugly to read?? too Southern in appearance? looks like a dead aunt she loathed? Maybe Carol forgot to take her meds. As far as the vanity review she seems pissed off that I liked the book. We all read books that we don't like as well as others did or we might like them better. No reason to get pissed off about it. :-) Gees!


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Sue Jeffrey wrote: "Diane wrote: "Maybe Carol should think before posting such negative comments. Maybe Carol should stop reading anything at all, since she seems to be too shallow to appreciate much of anything. I co..."

Heaven forbid she ever gets a book by George Eliot and sees her photo. Poor Maryanna Evans has been insulted enough.


Jeffrey Keeten Sue wrote: "Jeffrey wrote: "Diane wrote: "Maybe Carol should think before posting such negative comments. Maybe Carol should stop reading anything at all, since she seems to be too shallow to appreciate much o..."

Poor woman indeed! She could have passed for a man in more than name.


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Vessey Hi, Jeffrey. I wanted to thank you for another fantastic review and to tell you that I am very sorry for the horrible losses you have been through and for the pain your friends and family members have gone through before coming to their end. I haven’t lost a loved one yet, but I believe I understand you even so, because I know I will eventually. And I have been trying to adapt, without success so far, to this truth every day of my life. I think many people feel the frustration you feel toward religion. As a child I believed in God and I loved going to church and I felt there much safer than in other places. But it’s different now. To be honest, now I’m even a little bit afraid of churches. Every time at the sight of one (and we have plenty of those in Varna) I feel something sinister is hanging in the air. Once again, I am very sorry. P.S. I like your thumbs. :)


Jeffrey Keeten Vessey wrote: "Hi, Jeffrey. I wanted to thank you for another fantastic review and to tell you that I am very sorry for the horrible losses you have been through and for the pain your friends and family members h..."

I'm glad there are those that religion provides solace for. I'm certainly on an extended hiatus from religion. It was interesting remembering while writing this review. I didn't even realize how many people I'd been close with had died because I put each of them into a separate file. I hope it is a long time before you have to face the pain of dealing with the death of someone close to you. I always think of this interesting quote that has stuck with me for years. I don't remember who said it originally, but they said that when someone dies we grieve for the loss of the person, but we also grieve for the loss of the person we were when we were with them. One of those moments where you know you have just read an absolute truth. Thanks Vessey! I've played a few tricks on people over the years regarding my thumbs. :-) I can very convincing that they just broke my thumb.


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Vessey Jeffrey wrote: "Vessey wrote: "Hi, Jeffrey. I wanted to thank you for another fantastic review and to tell you that I am very sorry for the horrible losses you have been through and for the pain your friends and f..."

“When someone dies we grieve for the loss of the person, but we also grieve for the loss of the person we were when we were with them”

Jeffrey, you have showed me this one and thank you so much for doing so again. It touches me very deeply. Probably the way it does you. I think we grieve also for the person we could have or would have been. For everything we will never get the chance to be for the one we have lost. I think that the more we devote ourselves to our loved ones, the lesser is the fear of their deaths and the pain after that. Often we are afraid of closeness with the idea that later it would be harder for us move on, but I think it’s the opposite. I agree that the deeper the relationship, the deeper the loss afterwards, but on the other hand, when you truly love someone, the relationship is there regardless of whether you admit it or not. And if you let it exist more in thought than in deed, in the end you’re left just with the loss, without the solace of memories and knowledge that you have made someone happy. Thanks, Jeffrey. I love all your reviews. :) P.S. Those thumbs of yours seem to be quite the malice. Ha-ha. You know, when I am excited over something, I tend to move my hands in a way which, I’m convinced, makes me look like some kind of bird. I’m very energetic with my hands. I call them “the crazy hands”. I swear, these things live a life of their own! It’s creepy, I’m telling you. However, you and your crazy thumbs leave me in the dust! Behold the thumbs. :) You know whom you remind me of? The super elastic guy from The Fantastic Four. Wow. You guys are everywhere. :)


Candy Gill I found that for me this was a better book to listen to than to read. I have always read, but recently I've discovered that sometimes when I'm struggling to read something....getting impatient... I enjoy the book very much when I listen to it, maybe because I am not tempted to rush through it.


Jeffrey Keeten Candy wrote: "I found that for me this was a better book to listen to than to read. I have always read, but recently I've discovered that sometimes when I'm struggling to read something....getting impatient... I..."

I don't ever listen to books. I just don't process books that way, but I could see how this book might be a good one for people to take advantage of via an audio read. Thanks Candy! Good thought!


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Mike You put a lot of effort into this one, Jeffrey. Enjoyed having it pop u[p in my feed today. I'm busy sitting here thinking about one particular excerpt but there a lot of wonderful things to muse about here:

"When Laurel was a child, in this room and in this bed where she lay now, she closed her eyes like this and the rhythmic, nighttime sound of the two beloved reading voices came rising in turn up the stairs every night to reach her. She could hardly fall asleep, she tried to keep awake, for pleasure. She cared for her own books, but she cared more for theirs, which meant their voices. In the lateness of the night, their two voices reading to each other where she could hear them, never letting a silence divide or interrupt them, combined into one unceasing voice and wrapped her around as she listened, as still as if she were asleep. She was sent to sleep under a velvety cloak of words, richly patterned and stitched with gold, straight out of a fairy tale, while they went reading on into her dreams."

I don't know that my Dad ever read a book to me as a child...I wish he would have. Certainly my Mom did, but mostly I remember us all reading by ourselves, invested in our own worlds of imagination.


Jeffrey Keeten Mike wrote: "You put a lot of effort into this one, Jeffrey. Enjoyed having it pop u[p in my feed today. I'm busy sitting here thinking about one particular excerpt but there a lot of wonderful things to muse a..."

I don't think my Dad ever did read me a story either. My mom did until I became too impatient and started taking the books from her so I could read them myself. I was always a petulant reader. :-) I love that quoted passage. I'm glad you did too. Thanks Mike!


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Sue Mike wrote: "You put a lot of effort into this one, Jeffrey. Enjoyed having it pop u[p in my feed today. I'm busy sitting here thinking about one particular excerpt but there a lot of wonderful things to muse a..."

Mike, I recall that passage now with your quoting it. It really is a beautiful one. I too remember more being read to by my mother though I'm not really sure that my father didn't participate on occasion when we were small. I can see him sitting in a chair with a lamp behind him, a book in his hands. I'm so thankful my parents were readers.


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