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The Diamond Club by Patricia Harkins-Bradley
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Read from August 16 to 17, 2012

UPDATE 2 (8/17): I continued on and it had a train wreck quality about it. It's horrible, but I couldn't look away. And then it lost even that train wreck quality. I pushed myself to 37%, got extremely bored (and so tired of the WTF wording, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, idiocy, outlandishness, f/f -- methinks many of them have quite the fixation on that) and skipped to the end. Which was so freaking lame. I know their point was to create a book that had no semblance of story and they succeeded with aplomb. Bravo for the suckiest book I've ever read part of.

UPDATE (8/16): So I did try to read this book to alleviate the authors' concerns that I rated a book I hadn't read. I'm not sure I can make it through the whole thing. The rating stands. I read the first three chapters last night and it's just bad. Bad wording, bad editing (really bad), bad sex, just bad. This could be the first book I mark Did Not Finish. I'm wondering if the people who wrote this have ever had sex. I'm also more insulted than I was when I didn't have specific knowledge of the book. This is apparently how people think books in the genre read, and they're totally off base.

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Original review:

I didn't read this book, but it's a crowd-sourced book created specifically to poke fun at the Fifty Shades trilogy (which I also haven't read) and/or the recent success of erotica in general. I'm just posting this so people realize this was not intended to be a real story, not intended to be good. It was just written to see how far they could get, and considering it was a bestseller on iTunes, they apparently got pretty far with it.

Here's a story about it: http://gizmodo.com/5933169/how-a-fake...

Just posting so maybe people avoid buying and reading it and thinking people really write this way.
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message 1: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Thank you! You're my shero.


Heather in FL Shero, lol!


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme I need a way to make money this quick! I'm not giving my hard earn money away like this. Thanks for letting me know.


message 4: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph ♆ BookAddict wrote: "I need a way to make money this quick! I'm not giving my hard earn money away like this. Thanks for letting me know."

I think KS needs to write a crowd sourced book. ^.^ I'm sure we'd do it better...


message 5: by Sandra (new) - added it

Sandra I appreciate you getting the word out about this book, but you gotta admit, it proved pretty much exactly what it set out to prove.


message 6: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Sandra wrote: "I appreciate you getting the word out about this book, but you gotta admit, it proved pretty much exactly what it set out to prove."

What do you think they were trying to prove?


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme MrsJoseph wrote: "Sandra wrote: "I appreciate you getting the word out about this book, but you gotta admit, it proved pretty much exactly what it set out to prove."

What do you think they were trying to prove?"


They wanted to prove that as long as it has a nice cover, lots of banging sex and some "interesting characters" people would buy it. Basically validating that erotica is easy to sell and can be complete crap.


message 8: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph ♆ BookAddict wrote: "They wanted to prove that as long as it has a nice cover, lots of banging sex and some "interesting characters" people would buy it. Basically validating that erotica is easy to sell and can be complete crap. "

That maybe what they set out to prove...but they didn't (IMO). They used good marketing to shop a product to specific people who liked a specific thing. I mean, if you love grapes and I sold you some crap that I compared to grapes...

But I'm sure they (and the media) won't see it like that. They'll see "mommy porn." Bastards. They didn't do anything smart, they conned people and now they are saying "ha ha!"


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme MrsJoseph wrote: "

But I'm sure they (and the media) won't see it like that. They'll see "mommy porn." Bastards. They didn't do anything smart, they conned people and now they are saying "ha ha!" "


Well, there is that. I don't have any Apple products so I don't see how iTunes works. I would say... if they are like Amazon, people can demand their money back.


message 10: by Heather in FL (last edited Aug 10, 2012 05:41PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Heather in FL I'm not sure how iTunes works in terms of books, but I think music, you're stuck with it if you buy it. I have to wonder if there's some way for the posters of material (be it music, apps, or books) to "associate" it with something else like it. For example, if these "authors" could associate their farce with Fifty Shades when they upload it, Apple would be pushing this book on unsuspecting customers because the "authors" said it was in the same genre. If that's not how books get associated, then the "authors" and their friends had to have bought FSoG and subsequently purchased the farce in order for Apple to have recommended it... you bought FSoG, maybe you'd like The Diamond Club... It's unfortunate, however, that enough people fell for it for it to make their point.

The problem with this is that it looks like people who read FSoG aren't discerning if they lifted this book to #4 and didn't notice how awful it was. It also makes it look like anyone can write erotica and be successful. Which isn't true. It may be true short term, but one of the books on that top 10 was Sylvia Day's Bared to You. She's been writing for YEARS and has had at least a modicum of success to have continued writing. (Plus, it's really a great book, IMO, so she deserves to be there.) But this makes it look like it's easy to write titillating prose. And it's not. I couldn't do it. I read enough of it to know what works for me, but to try to turn it around into something that will be a good read for someone else (considering I have no creativity, lol) would never work.

I just feel like this whole thing was belittling to the entire genre. If the top 10 had been filled with business books, they wouldn't have done a crowd-sourced book on business to prove this point. So why pick on erotica? The genre has a hard enough time being taken seriously as it is.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Heather in FL wrote: "I just feel like this whole thing was belittling to the entire genre. If the top 10 had been filled with business books, they wouldn't have done a crowd-sourced book on business to prove this point. So why pick on erotica? The genre has a hard enough time being taken seriously as it is.
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I believe that was the goal and the succeeded in it too.


message 12: by William (new)

William Chinda If I may interject... I think to say it is "picking" on the genre is much too harsh. If anything, this project attempts to ride the wave of massive success that the genre is currently experiencing through parody (a form of flattery that is frequently misinterpreted as insult). Additionally, the two guys running this have both publicly expressed their admiration for E.L. James and the incredible success (and power) that she has found from 50SOG. If anything, 50SOG and DC are both reminders of the growing influence of the internet over publishing - 50SOG from the fanfic community and DC from the podcasting/crowdsourcing POV.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme William wrote: " If I may interject... I think to say it is "picking" on the genre is much too harsh. If anything, this project attempts to ride the wave of massive success that the genre is currently experiencing through parody (a form of flattery that is frequently misinterpreted as insult). Additionally, the two guys running this have both publicly expressed their admiration for E.L. James and the incredible success (and power) that she has found from 50SOG. If anything, 50SOG and DC are both reminders of the growing influence of the internet over publishing - 50SOG from the fanfic community and DC from the podcasting/crowdsourcing POV. "

Hmm, I was thought the phrase was "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". A parody is supposed to be a humourous interpretation. Apparently this humourous interpretation has fallen flat for several people. *shrug*

However, if you watch the video of their explanation, they specifically point out and show authors like the above mentioned Sylvia Day and say, "poorly written erotic fiction that is working to cash in on an obvious trend". I believe this is what makes some interpret this as picking on a genre. Just so I'm clear, what you are saying is that comment and showing Ms. Day and other authors who are writers of erotica novels is supposed to be a flattery, not an insult?

Please note - Ms. Day has been around long before FSoG. It appears Ms. Flynn has been around for 3 years now. Ms. Garwood has twenty-five romance novels in both the historical and suspense subgenres. Over thirty million copies of her books are in print, and she has had at least 15 New York Times Bestsellers. She's been published since 1985.

So according to the comedic duo - self proclaimed scam artist plus side kick, these other writers are just riding the wave. The work they put into this for years is just poorly written and if it weren't for FSoG, they would never had made it to the top 10.

I see you are right. There is no picking on this genre. It's just plain fun and joking around to discount and devalue the work of these writers - since we all know they are just hack writers. I mean, crowd sourcing with no editing and no one reading the book before publishing can make it to the top 10 on iTunes. Obviously, these writers have wasted their time when they can just use the internet to do the work for them. Then make a youtube video begging people to buy their 99 cent book and give it a rating of 5 star.


message 14: by William (new)

William Chinda The explanation video isn't an explanation so much as a call to action for reddit (btw, the reaction there was far more negative than anything here). It was shaping the messaging towards that particular audience. The video is also poorly edited and in the screenshots of the Top 10, it shows books that aren't even in the genre! Any reference to specific authors is most likely the result of laziness not a comment on the quality of those books. They're idiots, after all.

The ladies from an erotica book club put together a more coherent explanation of the project -
http://youtu.be/GHmfGrdTf9U?t=5m4s


Heather in FL Do you have a link to the reddit thread? I'd like to see it. I found one other story posted there related to the book, but none of the negative reaction you mentioned.


Heather in FL ♆ BookAddict wrote: "Obviously, these writers have wasted their time when they can just use the internet to do the work for them."

And that, right there, is the reason some authors aren't happy about this. They *know* it's not true, but this "project" seems to imply the opposite. It's unfortunate it was so successful.

That video of the book club ladies... kinda makes me mad. I understand that she's friends with them and all, but does she not see the negative impact on the genre this "prank" can cause? And I also understand what they meant when they talked about the books that are similarly titled, but short crap stories. There have been some of those. But I don't think any of them made a bestseller list.

It's one thing if they made it obvious it was a parody, but they didn't. They made it look like a real book. Though honestly, when I saw "angel investors" and "dubstep artists" in the book blurb, I'm surprised that didn't tweak someone's bullshit meter, lol. For that matter, "dreams of professional and sexual revenge" probably would have made me pass, lol.


message 17: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph I agree, this book is not a parody. There are tons of parodies of 50SG - and they are obviously parodies and very funny.

This "book" is nothing but a bunch of jackasses who wanted to make fun of women's reading habits. There's no other reason and the back peddeling makes no difference. So, they want to make fun of women who like sex. Fine. I hope all the women they date from now on hate sex.


message 18: by William (new)

William Chinda This is the original reddit thread.

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/commen...

If you're not down with the joke, I suppose there's nothing else I can say that will change your mind. Just know that there was no maliciousness on the part of those who made it. You may interpret it otherwise, and that's your right.


message 20: by William (new)

William Chinda Also, one final note: the one crap crowdsourced erotica book that made the best seller list (the New York Times one, not iTunes) was "Naked Came the Stranger," a book that came out in the 1960s.


Heather in FL Ha!! That book spawned a porn movie, lol.


Heather in FL OMFG it's on Amazon, too. Fucktards. (OK, so they're smart fucktards, but this is annoying.)

Bully for them for their enterprising spirit. I might feel a little bit better about this if they donated the money to charity instead of having a grand old party for themselves at Dragon*con. (Whatever the fuck that is.)


Doofendad If this book was $12.99 or some other high price, it may not be worth it. But I guarantee there is $0.99 worth of entertainment in every chapter. As one of the authors, I feel we have delivered on the promise of what buyers of the genre are looking for.


message 24: by Heather in FL (last edited Aug 11, 2012 10:40AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Heather in FL Something is given away for free doesn't make it worth it. There are plenty of crap books on Amazon given away for free each day. Whether in erotica or other genres.

And I really take offense to your statement that you delivered on the promise of what buyers in the genre are looking for. *I* am a buyer of the erotica genre. *I* am not looking for mindless, disjointed sex. (A dude in a beekeepers hat? Really?) *I* am looking for a fucking story. If it contains hot sex, all the better.

The ONLY reason this worked is because of the fan base of the perpetrators. (... and she told 10000 friends, and she told 100000 friends...) If this had been allowed to just simmer, as most book submissions do, this never would have made it out of the gate. But by using the internet to "advertise" what they were doing, they were able to manipulate the system.

I am certain, if the advertising hadn't been done, people might have stumbled upon the book, read it, recognized it for the drivel it was, *accurately* reviewed it, and it would have sunk. But by having tons of people buy it -- *in* on the joke, mind you -- and writing 5-star reviews that looked like they might have been real gave it legitimacy. So people who actually enjoyed FSoG saw that, took it at face value, and purchased for themselves. And were duped. And *they* won't even be going to Dragon*con to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Ha ha. Very funny. I'm sure they're thrilled being the butt of a joke.


Doofendad I stand by the statement that the book delivered $0.99 worth of entertainment for anyone who purchased it. It may not be what you're looking for but there are way too many 3 and 4 star reviews to say that it didn't deliver, at least for some.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme William wrote: "The explanation video isn't an explanation so much as a call to action for reddit (btw, the reaction there was far more negative than anything here). It was shaping the messaging towards that parti..."

OMG!!!! It is HOLLY FROM Eureka! I thought it was her. I always thought she was funny. She's on Goodreads? And in the Vaginal Group? OH geesh. I had gone there before all excited one day because I thought it said Vaginal fisting group. O_o I was disappointed and ended up not joining.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Oh, and Felicia started the group in January 2012 - 8 months later they have over 5000 members! Totally wow. I can't believe a TV star is on here. I mean, I realize they are readers too, but wow. I'm kind of geeked out star struck. I liked her on Eureka. To find that she's pretty genuine in real life is awesome. ^_^ I'm totally derailed now. I'm just going to go over there and lurk.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Heather in FL wrote: "OMFG it's on Amazon, too. Fucktards. (OK, so they're smart fucktards, but this is annoying.)

Bully for them for their enterprising spirit. I might feel a little bit better about this if they donated the money to charity instead of having a grand old party for themselves at Dragon*con. (Whatever the fuck that is.) "


Oh Heather, how can you NOT know about Dragon*con? How have I failed you? *blink blink* It's website is here - http://dragoncon.org/. It's only a geek fest of epic proportions. With boys dressing up like something they hope to be but can't ever in real life. Women dressing up like slutty wet dreams to cock tease, cuz they will advertise, but never deliver. Guys walk around with erections all day long and dream about taking a woman in the ass only to have the nasty dirty girl he's with to go, "I only like missionary and with the light off and clothing on..."

But seriously, it's a fun convention that is all the rage. I have many friends who go and it is a lot of fun.


message 29: by Heather in FL (last edited Aug 11, 2012 11:31AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Heather in FL I'm sure it's a lot of fun for aficionados of... the litany of things listed on that site. You paint such an appealing picture of it... geeks and teases galore. So a Star Trek convention without the Star Trek?


Doofendad @ BookAddict: If you like Felicia Day, check out her YouTube channel, Geek and Sundry. Very entertaining.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Heather in FL wrote: "I'm sure it's a lot of fun for aficionados of... the litany of things listed on that site. You paint such an appealing picture of it... geeks and teases galore. So a Star Trek convention without th..."

lol - Heather, what are no NOT saying? *snort* It's kind of like a Star Trek convention but with more. It's all things sci-fi - shows, movie, arts, books. Sherilyn Kenyon goes to Dragon*con. ^_^


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Doofendad wrote: "@ BookAddict: If you like Felicia Day, check out her YouTube channel, Geek and Sundry. Very entertaining."

I'll probably go check it out. I like her and find her amusing. Since I'm into BDSM, I have wicked depraved non-con story lines involving her cute little red headed... Well, as my good friends here in GR knows, I have a thing for red heads. And almost all the red heads fear me...


message 33: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Doofendad wrote: "I stand by the statement that the book delivered $0.99 worth of entertainment for anyone who purchased it. It may not be what you're looking for but there are way too many 3 and 4 star reviews to ..."

Do you game Doofendad? Or do anything that people might try to look down on or disparage? LARPing, maybe? Cosplay?

How does it feel when someone or a group of people make fun of your hobbies? Does it make you feel good? Or does it piss you off watching some jackass legitimatize the stereotype?

Because that's what you and your friends are doing. You stereotyping something you know nothing about and now are all *headscratch* I don't know why they don't get the LULz.

And really. What kind of man goes out of his way to make fun of women who like sex? Seriously? So, I hope you feel good by trying to shame someone's sexuality. And I hope you never get saddled with someone who loves sex. Cause hey, it's a joking matter anyway.

And BTW, there are tons of wonderfully written erotica books for sale for $0.99.


message 34: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph ♆ BookAddict wrote: "I'll probably go check it out. I like her and find her amusing. Since I'm into BDSM, I have wicked depraved non-con story lines involving her cute little red headed... Well, as my good friends here in GR knows, I have a thing for red heads. And almost all the red heads fear me... "

:-D You would die laughing if you knew what popped up into my head when I read this. *snicker*


Doofendad @MrsJoseph: I can't speak for all the contributors, but I was trying to write a quality chapter that people would like. Maybe I did and maybe I didn't, that's up to each reader. But the fans of the genre I do know, some liked it and some didn't, but none were offended by it.


message 36: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph You know, I guess that's all I can ask for. I think the attitude of the article is what really made me angry.

I do hope you enjoy Dragon*Con. I had planned to go myself.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme MrsJoseph wrote:
:-D You would die laughing if you knew what popped up into my head when I read this. *snicker*


"♆ BookAddict wrote: "I'll probably go check it out. I like her and find her amusing. Since I'm into BDSM, I have wicked depraved non-con story lines involving her cute little red headed... Well, as my good friends here in GR knows, I have a thing for red heads. And almost all the red heads fear me... "

"


Hmmm, does it have anything to do with the scenes I've written on my profile or website? :) I am determined to finish one of these bloody stories.


message 38: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph ♆ BookAddict wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote:
:-D You would die laughing if you knew what popped up into my head when I read this. *snicker*


"♆ BookAddict wrote: "I'll probably go check it out. I like her and find her amusi..."


It was a conversation you told us about. You had it with some co-workers...they were speechless. :-D


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme MrsJoseph wrote: "It was a conversation you told us about. You had it with some co-workers...they were speechless. :-D "

I've had several conversations with co-workers that leave them speechless. *hangs head*


Violet M. I notice they've added "doofndad" and most of the ***** are from men!! ACK


Toni (U.A.C.) All I can say is I'd rather pay .99 for crap than 9.99 for FSOG crap...but I won't be buying either. But, we could alway do a WTFery thread for it.


Heather in FL OOO, there's an idea. :-)


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Toni (U.A.C.) wrote: "All I can say is I'd rather pay .99 for crap than 9.99 for FSOG crap...but I won't be buying either. But, we could alway do a WTFery thread for it."

OH OH OH! So are we doing it Switchie style? Oh boy are we going to get drunk...


message 44: by Toni (U.A.C.) (last edited Aug 14, 2012 10:37AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Toni (U.A.C.) Well, I can buy it, read it, and we all can WTF it to death and I can even turn it into a drinking game for yall, but *tear* I was told I can't drink alcohol ever again. Not sure why, but when multiple doctors get in your face and say "Don't do it, or else." I'm not tempted to see what the or else is.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Toni (U.A.C.) wrote: "Well, I can buy it, read it, and we all can WTF it and I can even turn it into a drinking game for yall, but *tear* I was told I can't drink alcohol ever again. Not sure why, but when multiple doc..."

Well crap. I forgot you can't drink alcohol anymore. :(


message 46: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph :-(


Toni (U.A.C.) But you all can. :D No biggie. I'll get something else, IDK, ice cream or chocolate, lol.


♆ BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Toni (U.A.C.) wrote: "But you all can. :D No biggie. I'll get something else, IDK, ice cream or chocolate, lol."

Oh great, we'll send you off to Diabetic land instead...


Heather in FL This could be fun... drink every time she screws someone new? Because I hear there are a LOT of them. :-) Or maybe we could find another common theme to drink to... like maybe the same word is used over and over to describe something. I guess I should stock up on the alcohol just for this event. And make sure I can hangover the next day with no trouble (i.e. no pesky work hours to deal with, lol).


Literary Ames {Against GR Censorship} Ghost-writer wrote: "As a co-author of this book I am disgusted that you are allowed to review & give a one star to a book that you have not even read. That is as bad as giving a 5 star review to a book because you ha..."

Comment read and flagged. You've blatantly just joined Goodreads just to attack this reviewer. Please read the Author Guidelines where it clearly states: 'ignore a negative review or comment'.


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