Joshua Nomen-Mutatio's Reviews > Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
by Charlie Kaufman, Donald Kaufman, Susan Orlean (Goodreads Author) , Robert McKee , Spike Jonze
by Charlie Kaufman, Donald Kaufman, Susan Orlean (Goodreads Author) , Robert McKee , Spike Jonze
Joshua Nomen-Mutatio's review
bookshelves: film, the-good-kinda-meta, for-the-screens
Nov 12, 11
bookshelves: film, the-good-kinda-meta, for-the-screens
Recommended for:
King Shits of Pomo Fuck Mountain
read count: 2 or 3
Josh Rohrmayer was enduring a powerful, multi-day, disruption (i.e. full stop cessation) of the ability to sleep when he called himself on the phone. He was under an assault of rapidly forming ideas about things to write about. One trail of mental associations led to something he could write about the screenplay of one of his favorite films{1} of all time. He thought about the idea of Charlie Kaufman being one of his heroes. He fell into a tangential reverie about his heroes more generally… Since he was driving and not thinking clearly enough to pull over and jot down some of these ideas on paper, he had an immediately-acknowledged-as-hilarious-/-ridiculous idea to leave an audible note-to-self on his voicemail. He wasn’t even sure if this was possible but he dialed his own cell phone number anyway and exactly nothing happened. He then checked his voicemail and discovered a function which would allow him to create a message and then send it to the voicemail of whichever number he entered thereafter. This could work.
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{1} It's a "film" when taken "seriously" and a "movie" when not. This is the reflexive speech pattern of the wrinkled high brow. The rarely spoken code of the arthouse set.
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He immediately chuckled at the situation at the outset of recording the message. He commented on the weirdness of it. He spoke slowly, in detached monotone that degraded each word and rough idea being formed in his mouth and barely drooled out toward the intended goal post of his future ear. The idea of describing this bizarre event within the review of a film that may just be the most meta-fied, self-referential thing ever committed to celluloid struck him suddenly then as an obvious adding of even more egregious layers of meta-referentiality, especially considering that within the film are scenes of the screenwriter of the film listening to his own self-denigrating and manically scatterbrained ideas played back to him as aural notes-to-self, scenes which Josh had just instinctively quoted verbatim to his voicemail/future self as things to remember to mention in his review as being brilliant and hilarious aspects of the most densely meta-layered thing in the whole cotton pickin' postmodern world, all of which then, of course, would be commented upon further in the way he's doing...right...now. The strata of self-reference and meta-metaness bludgeoned his sleepless brain into a submission that put the whole thing on hold, especially because several other potentially not-awful ideas for book reviews and short fictions were hovering in an intra-copulating swarm that threatened to congeal into one big ol' paralytic monster of indistinguishable ideas—dumbly hulking above, terrifyingly useless. Basically, he needed some shut eye in a real bad way.
I adore the films of Charlie Kaufman. All of them. Intensely. There are so many great things to say about each one, and Adaptation stands out as probably the finest, most fully realized one of all. If I may (and I may) insert an inevitable, can’t-be-helped, DFW reference: this film bears some important similarity to the epic, struggle-with-the-self-and-against-postmodernism, 140 page grand finale of a story in the Girl with Curious Hair collection called "Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way" in the sense that they both ratchet up the so-called postmodern techniques in a seriously self-critical manner, a fun-to-poke-at-the-self kind of way, and in a way that shows affection and appreciation for those techniques but only when they are used to reach the emotionally gratifying ends that art has functioned to meet probably since the first cave painting or fireside drum circle. They both pile on the techniques of meta-narratives and the like as both an indictment of and tribute to them.
One gets the sense that Kaufman really did go through a lot of what is portrayed by Nic Cage (in his greatest role/s to date). It would make perfect sense really. He’s trying to escape being pigeon-holed as the wacky, off-beat, pomo surrealist du jour of Hollywood after the much deserved success of Being John Malkovich. He's attempting to write a straightforward story that he simply summarizes throughout the film—after exhaling what sounds like air-as-frustration—as simply being "about flowers." This proves to be a difficult task for him. He tries to insert the entire history of life on Earth into the script at one point{2}, only to quickly find himself slumped over, defeated and depressed, listening to his previously recorded self ferally shouting at his present self though the handheld tape recorder about single cell organisms and "worker monkeys" and "simple monkeys", etc.
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{2} Which, of course, is actually done in a beautiful time-lapse montage sequence early on in the film.
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Then he breaks the, I dunno, the 800th wall or so and initiates an infinite regress into the self, by writing himself into the malformed and barely begun script as the struggling screenwriter who's writing himself into his malformed and barely begun script—all of which he's later shown to be listening to the recorded audio-notes of, and then consequently once again slumped in defeat, sweat-sheened, and disgusted with himself.
KAUFMAN
I'm insane. I'm Ourobouros.
DONALD
I don't know what that word means.
KAUFMAN
I've written myself into my screenplay.
It's eating itself. I'm eating myself.
DONALD
Oh. That's kinda weird, huh?
KAUFMAN
It's self-indulgent. It's narcissistic.
It's solipsistic. It's pathetic. I'm
pathetic. I'm fat and pathetic.
Theses are the scenes that flashed into Josh's mind during that idea-assault on his morning drive home from work. He'd been thinking about how he really, really wanted to avoid the somewhat alluring and repulsive trap of writing too autobiographically in the short fiction collection that he'd been putting together as a portfolio for graduate school applications. The line "I have no understanding of anything outside of my own panic and self-loathing and pathetic little existence. It's like the only thing I'm actually qualified to write about is myself and my own self..." popped into his head and kicked off the whole previously mentioned "trail of mental associations" leading to the accidentally and perfectly meta-fying phone call to the self.
One of my favorite scenes in the film is when Charlie's defiant will has been ground down and he's attending a screenwriting seminar that his twin brother Donald{3} has been cultishly touting throughout the film, which heretofore had only resulted in Donald being chastised by the high art renegade, King Shit of Pomo Fuck Mountain (i.e. Charlie), because such seminars are deemed to be plebeian, creatively suffocating, shallow, commercially objectified and determined, etc.
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{3} Donald does not exist outside of the logic of this film, however, "he" received actual screen writing credit on the Adaptation script, which went on to be nominated for a Academy Award and as such I recall getting a real kick out of seeing both Charlie's and Donald's names being announced as nominees during the big, televised, Hollywood ceremony.
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In the lecture hall at the seminar, McKee, the charismatic leader of these seminars, is speaking in the background behind Kaufman’s voiceover narration of his massively self-loathing thoughts which gut him as a pathetic sellout for attending the seminar, and just as he’s about to exit the hall in a huff of self-chastisement, McKee’s voice breaks through to the foreground, stopping both the neurotic voiceover and Kaufman’s attempted exit in their tracks with a booming "AND GOD HELP YOU IF YOU USE VOICEOVER IN YOUR WORK, MY FRIENDS. GOD HELP YOU. THAT’S FLACCID, SLOPPY WRITING. ANY IDIOT CAN WRITE A VOICEOVER NARRATION TO EXPLAIN THE THOUGHTS OF A CHARACTER." It’s a hilarious moment among many that then segues into the following exchange between Kaufman and McKee when Kaufman decides to ask a question:
KAUFMAN
Sir, what if a writer is attempting to create a story where nothing much happens, where people don't change, they don't have any epiphanies. They struggle and are frustrated and nothing is resolved. More a reflection of the real world —
MCKEE
The real world?
KAUFMAN
Yes, sir.
MCKEE
The real fucking world? First of all, you write a screenplay without Conflict or Crisis, you'll bore your audience to tears. Secondly: nothing happens in the world? Are you out of your fucking mind? People are murdered every day! There's genocide, war, corruption! Every fucking day somewhere in the world somebody sacrifices his life to save someone else! Every fucking day someone somewhere makes a conscious decision to destroy someone else! People find love! People lose it! For Christ's sake! A child watches her mother beaten to death on the steps of a church! Someone goes hungry! Somebody else betrays his best friend for a woman! If you can't find that stuff in life, then you, my friend, don't know CRAP about life! And WHY THE FUCK are you wasting my two precious hours with your movie? I don't have any use for it! I don't have any bloody use for it!
KAUFMAN
Okay, thanks.
Early in the film there’s a scene where Kaufman is meeting with a film executive to talk about adapting the book "about flowers" in which Kaufman, in a nervously sweating fashion, begins to stutter off all the Hollywood clichés he wants to avoid putting into the script, and each and every one will eventually come to pass as this excellent, must-watch, three minute condensed version of the film shows perfectly.
By the latter end of the film it seems that Donald Kaufman has basically taken the reins on the script as McKee’s demanded "Crisis" and "Conflict" begin to erupt all over the screen. Yes, the dreaded Hollywood clichés that Kaufman disparages early on begin to crop up, but this is the truly brilliant and redemptive thing about the film: they work and work very well, both as they are supposed to traditionally, as entertaining and emotionally effective turns of the screenplay and camera, and as hilariously self-aware insertions, with a wink and nod to the audience and to itself, all brilliantly wrangled together and structured with technical prowess. Team Donald and Team Charlie are reconciled both symbolically as screenwriting techniques and overarching philosophies about art, and within the narrative of the film itself as the twins begin to fight less and even share moments of brotherly love.
One such moment is a prime example of the power of this dual-leveled reconciliation in which the brothers are hiding for their very lives in a Floridian swamp from the murderous intentions of John Laroche, the new orchid-poaching secret-paramour of the New Yorker columnist, Susan Orlean, who is also the author of the very book "about flowers" that is supposed to have been adapted throughout the film this entire time. Susan has insisted that they must be killed because they've discovered things about her that she can’t allow to see the light of day. The Kaufman twins are hunkered down there and they have a teary-eyed, sentimentality-fest that peaks when Donald sagely says "You're not what you love, but what loves you", which, to be honest, I’m still not sure I even really understand, but the moment—as it is simultaneously funny, and cleverly, self-referentially connected to Charlie's anti-Hollywood rant early on in the film—with the soundtrack swelling and the display of brotherly love within the crumbling edifice of their cynical rivalry—has actually brought real tears out of my eyes. More than once.
Or when Susan Orlean wails melodramatically about wanting to be a baby again, wanting to start her life over ("before it got all fucked up!") and to be carried out differently. Or when she waxes philosophical about the importance of being fascinated by the world or being able to narrow one's focus in order to find passion and eschew existential malaise—these moments all hit me in a direct and serious way through all of the the sly winking and nudging. This also happens as John Laroche's many horrible, real life tragedies are revealed throughout the film, or when he hits upon genuinely wise notions about life within his goofy flurries of egomaniacal eccentricity. And there are many more gemlike moments of real human joy and sorrow nestled throughout the meta-tastic hall of mirrors of the screenplay upon book upon screenplay embedded within a screenplay competing with a fictional screenplay, etc, all reflecting both real life figures (McKee, Orlean, Laroche, Charlie Kaufman) and symbolic fictional figures (both Donald and, to some weird, self-parodic extent, "Charlie Kaufman"), and all bending in upon itself and back out again at a rapid, fluctuating clip, brilliant and heartfelt all the way through.
LAROCHE
You know why I like plants?
ORLEAN
Nuh uh.
LAROCHE
Because they're so mutable.
Adaptation is a profound process.
Means you figure out how to thrive
in the world.
ORLEAN
[pause] Yeah but it's easier for plants.
I mean they have no memory. They just move on
to whatever's next. With a person though,
adapting almost shameful. It's like running away.
This film, like other great works of meta-art, does a heroically wonderful job of using the potentially trapping and self-defeating tools of The Pomo Bag o' Tricks in order to lead the way out of these trappings and pitfalls. The film houses many deeply sincere moments of the kind of real human drama that McKee passionately bellows about, roaring it into the bones of the neurotic, high brow screenwriter who afterwords tells the traditionalist McKee, while now begging him for screenplay advice, that "what you said this morning shook me to the bone. What you said was bigger than my screenwriting choices. It's about my choices as a human being." Some of these sincere and "Hollywood-style" moments I think are clearly meant to be attributed to "Donald Kaufman" but the thing is that there is no Donald Kaufman to pin them on out of fear of being seen as a sap and/or a hack writer. He's a representation of a part of Charlie (as is the very Nic Cage-as-Charlie representation itself) that wrestles within a single mind (both within the film and always hovering over it from outside, hunched over the keyboard), the part that intuitively understands the deeper purposes of art: to connect with people, to communicate important ideas and emotions as well as to simply entertain. And Charlie is still right to understand that art is also there to dazzle with intricate structures and Big Ideas, but as McKee says to him during their version of a heart-to-heart at a bar after the day's lectures have wound down, "You must go back and put in the drama." Charlie Kaufman reconciles these competing artistic drives, both from within and from outside of the film itself, while simultaneously exploring them in a truly amazing way that both fucks the mind right proper while never forgetting to sincerely and compassionately tug at the heart.
____________________________________________
Postscript: This is an increasingly well-worn theme of mine in my book reviews and in my general explanations about what I’m drawn to and bowled over by in artistic and intellectual endeavors, which can be cut down to size as: head 'n' heart are equally important. As it gets repeated more and more my gut-reaction is to yawn a vicious, dismissive, self-aware yawn at it, but then I regroup and convince myself that it's an important theme to keep alive and to keep continuously refining and proliferating it in a world that, in many cultural sectors, is increasingly inward-turning, self-referencing, meta-this-and-that-ing, and saturated with multiple mutating subspecies of irony, from the well-crafted and virtuous to the cheaply and easily inherited and detached and self-subsuming. The latter forms are often encouraged by the powerful twin-spectres of corporatism and consumer culture, which utilize the "we don't really mean what we say" aspect of irony in order to hawk goods and services by ironically poking fun at them while still ultimately endorsing them and carrying out the very ills they've just self-awarely pretended to deflate. We've really got to stay on our toes when so many cynical reflexes of detachment are more and more available to common disposal.
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{1} It's a "film" when taken "seriously" and a "movie" when not. This is the reflexive speech pattern of the wrinkled high brow. The rarely spoken code of the arthouse set.
____________________________________________
He immediately chuckled at the situation at the outset of recording the message. He commented on the weirdness of it. He spoke slowly, in detached monotone that degraded each word and rough idea being formed in his mouth and barely drooled out toward the intended goal post of his future ear. The idea of describing this bizarre event within the review of a film that may just be the most meta-fied, self-referential thing ever committed to celluloid struck him suddenly then as an obvious adding of even more egregious layers of meta-referentiality, especially considering that within the film are scenes of the screenwriter of the film listening to his own self-denigrating and manically scatterbrained ideas played back to him as aural notes-to-self, scenes which Josh had just instinctively quoted verbatim to his voicemail/future self as things to remember to mention in his review as being brilliant and hilarious aspects of the most densely meta-layered thing in the whole cotton pickin' postmodern world, all of which then, of course, would be commented upon further in the way he's doing...right...now. The strata of self-reference and meta-metaness bludgeoned his sleepless brain into a submission that put the whole thing on hold, especially because several other potentially not-awful ideas for book reviews and short fictions were hovering in an intra-copulating swarm that threatened to congeal into one big ol' paralytic monster of indistinguishable ideas—dumbly hulking above, terrifyingly useless. Basically, he needed some shut eye in a real bad way.
I adore the films of Charlie Kaufman. All of them. Intensely. There are so many great things to say about each one, and Adaptation stands out as probably the finest, most fully realized one of all. If I may (and I may) insert an inevitable, can’t-be-helped, DFW reference: this film bears some important similarity to the epic, struggle-with-the-self-and-against-postmodernism, 140 page grand finale of a story in the Girl with Curious Hair collection called "Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way" in the sense that they both ratchet up the so-called postmodern techniques in a seriously self-critical manner, a fun-to-poke-at-the-self kind of way, and in a way that shows affection and appreciation for those techniques but only when they are used to reach the emotionally gratifying ends that art has functioned to meet probably since the first cave painting or fireside drum circle. They both pile on the techniques of meta-narratives and the like as both an indictment of and tribute to them.
One gets the sense that Kaufman really did go through a lot of what is portrayed by Nic Cage (in his greatest role/s to date). It would make perfect sense really. He’s trying to escape being pigeon-holed as the wacky, off-beat, pomo surrealist du jour of Hollywood after the much deserved success of Being John Malkovich. He's attempting to write a straightforward story that he simply summarizes throughout the film—after exhaling what sounds like air-as-frustration—as simply being "about flowers." This proves to be a difficult task for him. He tries to insert the entire history of life on Earth into the script at one point{2}, only to quickly find himself slumped over, defeated and depressed, listening to his previously recorded self ferally shouting at his present self though the handheld tape recorder about single cell organisms and "worker monkeys" and "simple monkeys", etc.
____________________________________________
{2} Which, of course, is actually done in a beautiful time-lapse montage sequence early on in the film.
____________________________________________
Then he breaks the, I dunno, the 800th wall or so and initiates an infinite regress into the self, by writing himself into the malformed and barely begun script as the struggling screenwriter who's writing himself into his malformed and barely begun script—all of which he's later shown to be listening to the recorded audio-notes of, and then consequently once again slumped in defeat, sweat-sheened, and disgusted with himself.
KAUFMAN
I'm insane. I'm Ourobouros.
DONALD
I don't know what that word means.
KAUFMAN
I've written myself into my screenplay.
It's eating itself. I'm eating myself.
DONALD
Oh. That's kinda weird, huh?
KAUFMAN
It's self-indulgent. It's narcissistic.
It's solipsistic. It's pathetic. I'm
pathetic. I'm fat and pathetic.
Theses are the scenes that flashed into Josh's mind during that idea-assault on his morning drive home from work. He'd been thinking about how he really, really wanted to avoid the somewhat alluring and repulsive trap of writing too autobiographically in the short fiction collection that he'd been putting together as a portfolio for graduate school applications. The line "I have no understanding of anything outside of my own panic and self-loathing and pathetic little existence. It's like the only thing I'm actually qualified to write about is myself and my own self..." popped into his head and kicked off the whole previously mentioned "trail of mental associations" leading to the accidentally and perfectly meta-fying phone call to the self.
One of my favorite scenes in the film is when Charlie's defiant will has been ground down and he's attending a screenwriting seminar that his twin brother Donald{3} has been cultishly touting throughout the film, which heretofore had only resulted in Donald being chastised by the high art renegade, King Shit of Pomo Fuck Mountain (i.e. Charlie), because such seminars are deemed to be plebeian, creatively suffocating, shallow, commercially objectified and determined, etc.
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{3} Donald does not exist outside of the logic of this film, however, "he" received actual screen writing credit on the Adaptation script, which went on to be nominated for a Academy Award and as such I recall getting a real kick out of seeing both Charlie's and Donald's names being announced as nominees during the big, televised, Hollywood ceremony.
____________________________________________
In the lecture hall at the seminar, McKee, the charismatic leader of these seminars, is speaking in the background behind Kaufman’s voiceover narration of his massively self-loathing thoughts which gut him as a pathetic sellout for attending the seminar, and just as he’s about to exit the hall in a huff of self-chastisement, McKee’s voice breaks through to the foreground, stopping both the neurotic voiceover and Kaufman’s attempted exit in their tracks with a booming "AND GOD HELP YOU IF YOU USE VOICEOVER IN YOUR WORK, MY FRIENDS. GOD HELP YOU. THAT’S FLACCID, SLOPPY WRITING. ANY IDIOT CAN WRITE A VOICEOVER NARRATION TO EXPLAIN THE THOUGHTS OF A CHARACTER." It’s a hilarious moment among many that then segues into the following exchange between Kaufman and McKee when Kaufman decides to ask a question:
KAUFMAN
Sir, what if a writer is attempting to create a story where nothing much happens, where people don't change, they don't have any epiphanies. They struggle and are frustrated and nothing is resolved. More a reflection of the real world —
MCKEE
The real world?
KAUFMAN
Yes, sir.
MCKEE
The real fucking world? First of all, you write a screenplay without Conflict or Crisis, you'll bore your audience to tears. Secondly: nothing happens in the world? Are you out of your fucking mind? People are murdered every day! There's genocide, war, corruption! Every fucking day somewhere in the world somebody sacrifices his life to save someone else! Every fucking day someone somewhere makes a conscious decision to destroy someone else! People find love! People lose it! For Christ's sake! A child watches her mother beaten to death on the steps of a church! Someone goes hungry! Somebody else betrays his best friend for a woman! If you can't find that stuff in life, then you, my friend, don't know CRAP about life! And WHY THE FUCK are you wasting my two precious hours with your movie? I don't have any use for it! I don't have any bloody use for it!
KAUFMAN
Okay, thanks.
Early in the film there’s a scene where Kaufman is meeting with a film executive to talk about adapting the book "about flowers" in which Kaufman, in a nervously sweating fashion, begins to stutter off all the Hollywood clichés he wants to avoid putting into the script, and each and every one will eventually come to pass as this excellent, must-watch, three minute condensed version of the film shows perfectly.
By the latter end of the film it seems that Donald Kaufman has basically taken the reins on the script as McKee’s demanded "Crisis" and "Conflict" begin to erupt all over the screen. Yes, the dreaded Hollywood clichés that Kaufman disparages early on begin to crop up, but this is the truly brilliant and redemptive thing about the film: they work and work very well, both as they are supposed to traditionally, as entertaining and emotionally effective turns of the screenplay and camera, and as hilariously self-aware insertions, with a wink and nod to the audience and to itself, all brilliantly wrangled together and structured with technical prowess. Team Donald and Team Charlie are reconciled both symbolically as screenwriting techniques and overarching philosophies about art, and within the narrative of the film itself as the twins begin to fight less and even share moments of brotherly love.
One such moment is a prime example of the power of this dual-leveled reconciliation in which the brothers are hiding for their very lives in a Floridian swamp from the murderous intentions of John Laroche, the new orchid-poaching secret-paramour of the New Yorker columnist, Susan Orlean, who is also the author of the very book "about flowers" that is supposed to have been adapted throughout the film this entire time. Susan has insisted that they must be killed because they've discovered things about her that she can’t allow to see the light of day. The Kaufman twins are hunkered down there and they have a teary-eyed, sentimentality-fest that peaks when Donald sagely says "You're not what you love, but what loves you", which, to be honest, I’m still not sure I even really understand, but the moment—as it is simultaneously funny, and cleverly, self-referentially connected to Charlie's anti-Hollywood rant early on in the film—with the soundtrack swelling and the display of brotherly love within the crumbling edifice of their cynical rivalry—has actually brought real tears out of my eyes. More than once.
Or when Susan Orlean wails melodramatically about wanting to be a baby again, wanting to start her life over ("before it got all fucked up!") and to be carried out differently. Or when she waxes philosophical about the importance of being fascinated by the world or being able to narrow one's focus in order to find passion and eschew existential malaise—these moments all hit me in a direct and serious way through all of the the sly winking and nudging. This also happens as John Laroche's many horrible, real life tragedies are revealed throughout the film, or when he hits upon genuinely wise notions about life within his goofy flurries of egomaniacal eccentricity. And there are many more gemlike moments of real human joy and sorrow nestled throughout the meta-tastic hall of mirrors of the screenplay upon book upon screenplay embedded within a screenplay competing with a fictional screenplay, etc, all reflecting both real life figures (McKee, Orlean, Laroche, Charlie Kaufman) and symbolic fictional figures (both Donald and, to some weird, self-parodic extent, "Charlie Kaufman"), and all bending in upon itself and back out again at a rapid, fluctuating clip, brilliant and heartfelt all the way through.
LAROCHE
You know why I like plants?
ORLEAN
Nuh uh.
LAROCHE
Because they're so mutable.
Adaptation is a profound process.
Means you figure out how to thrive
in the world.
ORLEAN
[pause] Yeah but it's easier for plants.
I mean they have no memory. They just move on
to whatever's next. With a person though,
adapting almost shameful. It's like running away.
This film, like other great works of meta-art, does a heroically wonderful job of using the potentially trapping and self-defeating tools of The Pomo Bag o' Tricks in order to lead the way out of these trappings and pitfalls. The film houses many deeply sincere moments of the kind of real human drama that McKee passionately bellows about, roaring it into the bones of the neurotic, high brow screenwriter who afterwords tells the traditionalist McKee, while now begging him for screenplay advice, that "what you said this morning shook me to the bone. What you said was bigger than my screenwriting choices. It's about my choices as a human being." Some of these sincere and "Hollywood-style" moments I think are clearly meant to be attributed to "Donald Kaufman" but the thing is that there is no Donald Kaufman to pin them on out of fear of being seen as a sap and/or a hack writer. He's a representation of a part of Charlie (as is the very Nic Cage-as-Charlie representation itself) that wrestles within a single mind (both within the film and always hovering over it from outside, hunched over the keyboard), the part that intuitively understands the deeper purposes of art: to connect with people, to communicate important ideas and emotions as well as to simply entertain. And Charlie is still right to understand that art is also there to dazzle with intricate structures and Big Ideas, but as McKee says to him during their version of a heart-to-heart at a bar after the day's lectures have wound down, "You must go back and put in the drama." Charlie Kaufman reconciles these competing artistic drives, both from within and from outside of the film itself, while simultaneously exploring them in a truly amazing way that both fucks the mind right proper while never forgetting to sincerely and compassionately tug at the heart.
____________________________________________
Postscript: This is an increasingly well-worn theme of mine in my book reviews and in my general explanations about what I’m drawn to and bowled over by in artistic and intellectual endeavors, which can be cut down to size as: head 'n' heart are equally important. As it gets repeated more and more my gut-reaction is to yawn a vicious, dismissive, self-aware yawn at it, but then I regroup and convince myself that it's an important theme to keep alive and to keep continuously refining and proliferating it in a world that, in many cultural sectors, is increasingly inward-turning, self-referencing, meta-this-and-that-ing, and saturated with multiple mutating subspecies of irony, from the well-crafted and virtuous to the cheaply and easily inherited and detached and self-subsuming. The latter forms are often encouraged by the powerful twin-spectres of corporatism and consumer culture, which utilize the "we don't really mean what we say" aspect of irony in order to hawk goods and services by ironically poking fun at them while still ultimately endorsing them and carrying out the very ills they've just self-awarely pretended to deflate. We've really got to stay on our toes when so many cynical reflexes of detachment are more and more available to common disposal.
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Quotes Joshua Nomen-Mutatio Liked
“KAUFMAN
Sir, what if a writer is attempting to create a story where nothing much happens, where people don't change, they don't have any epiphanies. They struggle and are frustrated and nothing is resolved. More a reflection of the real world —
MCKEE
The real world?
KAUFMAN
Yes, sir.
MCKEE
The real fucking world? First of all, you write a screenplay without Conflict or Crisis, you'll bore your audience to tears. Secondly: nothing happens in the world? Are you out of your fucking mind? People are murdered every day! There's genocide, war, corruption! Every fucking day somewhere in the world somebody sacrifices his life to save someone else! Every fucking day someone somewhere makes a conscious decision to destroy someone else! People find love! People lose it! For Christ's sake! A child watches her mother beaten to death on the steps of a church! Someone goes hungry! Somebody else betrays his best friend for a woman! If you can't find that stuff in life, then you, my friend, don't know CRAP about life! And WHY THE FUCK are you wasting my two precious hours with your movie? I don't have any use for it! I don't have any bloody use for it!
KAUFMAN
Okay, thanks.”
― Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
Sir, what if a writer is attempting to create a story where nothing much happens, where people don't change, they don't have any epiphanies. They struggle and are frustrated and nothing is resolved. More a reflection of the real world —
MCKEE
The real world?
KAUFMAN
Yes, sir.
MCKEE
The real fucking world? First of all, you write a screenplay without Conflict or Crisis, you'll bore your audience to tears. Secondly: nothing happens in the world? Are you out of your fucking mind? People are murdered every day! There's genocide, war, corruption! Every fucking day somewhere in the world somebody sacrifices his life to save someone else! Every fucking day someone somewhere makes a conscious decision to destroy someone else! People find love! People lose it! For Christ's sake! A child watches her mother beaten to death on the steps of a church! Someone goes hungry! Somebody else betrays his best friend for a woman! If you can't find that stuff in life, then you, my friend, don't know CRAP about life! And WHY THE FUCK are you wasting my two precious hours with your movie? I don't have any use for it! I don't have any bloody use for it!
KAUFMAN
Okay, thanks.”
― Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
“There are too many ideas and things and people. Too many directions to go. I was starting to believe the reason it matters to care passionately about something, is that it whittles the world down to a more manageable size.”
― Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
― Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation.: The Shooting Script
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What I want to know is when they're going to release the Synecdoche, NY screenplay. I would probably read that thing on a weekly basis.
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Jimmy wrote: "What I want to know is when they're going to release the Synecdoche, NY screenplay. I would probably read that thing on a weekly basis."http://www.amazon.com/Synecdoche-New-...
For a pomo treat, read Orlean's The Orchid Thief: A True Story of Beauty and Obsession first, then marvel at the good clean twisty fun to be had with the adaptation.
Sho wrote: "For a pomo treat, read Orlean's The Orchid Thief: A True Story of Beauty and Obsession first, then marvel at the good clean twisty fun to be had with the adaptation."I've heard that it's quite good. Kaufman clearly had a thing for it. That alone is a good endorsement.
This is great. I had no idea about any of this background: Seen Through Charlie Kaufman's Eyes: The screenwriting guru, Robert McKee, talks about what it was like to see himself portrayed by Brian Cox in the film Adaptation.
CK : sometimes the best there is (BJM, ESSM, Adaptation) and sometimes - no - no - nooooo..... (Human nature, Synecdoche)
I don't understand what people have against Human Nature. I love it to pieces. Probably seen it a hundred times now. Literally. I'm more sympathetic to people not getting on board with Synecdoche, New York, but I, of course, thought it was masterful and amazingly poignant. It manages to make death anxiety uproariously laughable and the most profoundly upsetting thing in the world from one second to the next. I guess that's just my kinda roller coaster ride.
I just see both films as such natural extensions of and basically seamless frames of the whole Charlie Kaufman creative output trajectory. They have some rather notably similar themes and qualities to me, regardless of who's directing (Jonze, Gondry or himself).
I see both those films as giant missteps which show me that even very clever people can't see the wood for the trees sometimes, and that Hollywood is filled with people who can't say no to someone who's had a hit. Synecdoche, a movie I was looking forward too more than any other in recent years, was like a horrid parody of the worst excesses of Alan Resnais with some Jean-Luc Goddard and Peter Greenaway thrown in. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.Sorry and all that!
MFSO wrote: "ratchet up the so-called postmodern techniques in a seriously self-critical manner, a fun-to-poke-at-the-self kind of way, and in a way that shows affection and appreciation for those techniques but only when they are used to reach the emotionally gratifying ends that art has functioned to meet probably since the first cave painting or fireside drum circle. They both pile on the techniques of meta-narratives and the like as both an indictment of and tribute to them."I really liked your review, and I ESPECIALLY loved this quote above... I feel exactly that way. EXCEPT that I don't agree that Adaptation does this. I really hated the movie precisely because I felt like it was all winks and nudges and almost no heart. I felt like the smug winking was way too obvious, and the heart of the film, the emotion that made you love this film was just not working for me.
If you have time, I'd love for you to watch the Iranian film A Moment of Innocence and let me know what you think. I think it is the perfect crystallization of intellect/heart and probably the most moving self-reflexive movie ever made. Even 8 1/2 is second to it, and 8 1/2 is a great film too, which you should also watch *nudge*.
I suppose at a certain point differences of opinion can be chalked up to different strokes, etc.I will check out that flick.
And 8 1/2 is a classic, both in my mind and outside of it.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad we finally became GR pals after a lot of peripheral contact.
Anyway, Josh, you already were one of the reasons I spend more time on goodreads than on facebook, blogs, or any other site. Now you've gone and pushed me over the edge, nab it! I just finished an independent summer study contract (9 books), and I still can't get enough of good reads... and will never keep up with the new titles... PS ...more on the morpheme meta- at some other juncture...
Thanks for the flattering words. I looked for the ol' myspace philosophynerd group the other day and it seems all the groups have vanished from that dying site. I still have fond memories of those "old" days...
Meant it too! ... also, re MS groups, tried and felt the same. Oddly enough I got more satsifaction from those threads than I did from academia! Anyway, keep reading and watch that wine glass! er, or rather maybe skip it altogether, hah ... that is, I don't fall asleep reading so much anymore since I quit doin that. But my poetic urge has since dried up too, dag it! peace!
I just realized that "PS ...meta- at some other juncture" was a pun... argh, I gotta quit this language game thing.
Aww shucks, Moira, thanks for the niceness. I'm confused about this Moira-Alain-karen love triangle. Explain?
well, i love the marienbad, and we both love brad dourif, right? and weren't there some other men we were fighting over?
I'm just trying to figure out the connection to this review and Moira's first comment. I get that y'all like them there foreign actor types, just not the mention on this thread... I don't mind a random shout out on a thread, in fact I may have personally invented that phenomenon. Like, oh hey, did you know Isabella Rossellini's daughter is super crazy hot? She is.
Oh, I just got it. Paul's comment. I'll defend MY boyfriend, Mr. Kaufman, you two can cover the others. Tactical suggestion: make fun of Bob Dylan until he cries.
I've seen Night and Fog but nothing else. Last Year at Marienbad sounds promising after looking at this:http://www.filmforum.org/films/marien...
You'd like Last Year at Marienbad; I'm pretty certain of it. Although, Hiroshima Mon Amour is one of my favorite films. Resnais was leagues above the French New Wave (who all pretty much adored him). Hiroshima Mon Amour basically makes Breathless look like a poorly made student film.
i saw hiroshima in a college film class. i don't know if i wasn't ready for it yet or what, but i did find it made an excellent cure for insomnia.
These are the thoughts that occurred to Stephen as he read through this review, suggested to him by the author and equally encouraged by Stephen's deep seeded love for this movie, which if asked questions such as "what movie best describes you?" or "do you have a favorite movie" or "if there is one movie that could sum up the totality of your worries and fears, which one would that be?"; shunning the close second pick of Children of Men, Stephen would have to resort to the ubiquitous pick of all self-deprecating writers, who have a flare for post-modern mindset and cloak a deep and desperately hidden emotional center under a glut of caveats, apologies, explanations and academically-adided justifications for even the smallest of positions, and write rambling sentences for the purpose of trying to show off any talent he may have but is really just a nuisance to the average goodreader, trying to make his way through a discussion thread; well, Stephen thinks, maybe he should get to the few points that he alluded to at the beginning of this self-indulgent monstrosity of a sentence:1. No one has mentioned the best use of a 60's love song ever.
2. The "you are what you love..." quote has always hit me in a particularly profound way. To me, it has always meant that one should allow the approval of others to define their existence, instead to find the truest source of identity from oneself. I also like how that point is set next to the story of Donald and the girls that made fun of him. I've been tip-toeing around cliches here, but cliches are cliches for good reasons (a cliche unto itself). A situation, like the one with Donald and the girls, only have significance in the way that he decided to interpret it. Sure, the girls thought he was a loser, but he didn't. And the persisting thought that he is not a loser is in fact the reason why Donald is the ladies' man of the two, despite looking the exact same as Charlie. Charlie is consumed with self-doubt and will always prevent him from having the popularity that Donald has. The most heartfelt arc that occurs in the movie is when Charlie learns that he doesn't need to feel so unsure of himself, thus he "adapts". I'm getting all tingly just writing this out.
3. The tension between Charlie and Donald resonate on a artistic level as well. Donald unself-conscious is his creation of a hollywood thriller and Charlie attempting to create a profound piece of art. It reminds me of a scene out of If on a Winter's Night a Traveler:
"Two writers, living in two chalets on opposite slopes of the valley, observe each other alternately... One of the two is a productive writer, the other a tormented writer. The tormented writer watches the productive writer filling pages with uniform lines, the manuscript growing in a pile of neat pages. In a little while the book will be finished: certainly a best seller - the tormented writer thinks with a certain contempt but also with envy. He considers the productive writer no more than a clever craftsman, capable of turning out machine-made novels catering to the taste of the public; but he cannot repress a strong feeling of envy for that man who expresses himself with such methodical self-confidence...
The productive writer watches the tormented writer as the latter sits down at his desk, chews his fingernails, scratches himself, tears a page to bits, gets up and goes into the kitchen to fix himself some coffee, then some tea, then camomile, then reads a poem by Holderlin (while it is clear that Holderlin has absolutely nothing to do with what he is writing)... The productive writer has never like d the works of the tormented writer; reading them, he always feels as if he is on the verge of grasping the decisive point, but then it eludes him and he is left with a sensation of uneasiness. But now that he is watching him write, he feels this man is struggling with something obscure, a tangle, a road to be dug leading no one knows where; at times he seems to see the other man walking on a tight-rope stretched over the void, and he is overcome with admiration... The young woman receives the two manuscripts. After a few days she invites the authors to her house, together, to their great surprise. "What kind of joke is this?" She says. "You've given me two copies of the same novel!"
Joshua Nomen-Mutatio wrote: "::slow clap:: Fucking great stuff, Steven. "Imagine me and you, I do...""
Jee, thanks. That may be my review if I ever post one. Have you read one of the early drafts, featuring a gila monster attack instead of an alligator at the end?
Sorry for misspelling your name. I was too enthralled for proper spelling.I have read the alternative drafts. Total fanboy goldmine.
Joshua Nomen-Mutatio wrote: "Sorry for misspelling your name. I was too enthralled for proper spelling.I have read the alternative drafts. Total fanboy goldmine."
No kidding. I heard in an interview that they called Robert McKee to get the okay for him to be in the film. He said he would allow it only under the condition that he would have a say in the ending of the movie. That cracks me up. I think it has a lot to do with the supposed "hollywood" ending.
It is also the only time an imaginary person has been nominated for an oscar. This movie is so full of win.
Yeah, I did mention the Donald Kaufman Oscar nomination in the review somewhere.I linked to a video of McKee in the one of the comments above, too.
What a great tribute to a near perfect movie, er, film. Your review (and Stephen's comment) titillated the old coconut the same way Charlie and Donald did.Joshua, do you by chance have a twin -- one who might share the writing credit? All this head/heart insight is a lot for one person to synthesize.
Thanks, Steve. I do have a lot of good people and books and authors to bounce ideas off each other with and to learn from, but unfortunately none are my lovably naive twin.
Jason wrote: "It's not floating if you're only posting a comment. If you're gonna float, do it right!"Really? I don't really like to re-post the review because then it changes the date it was written. Which is a lame bug GR should fix and allow us to simply write the date we wrote the review, but no, instead every time you edit something it changes the date it was written and I sort of like keeping the original one. Although if you want to edit something and NOT have it change the date you can, but it won't go up on the feed. You have to click on My Books and edit from there. GR has some silly things like that which ought to be fixed by now. I mean, come on, it's been like 5 years now.
i thought this was the thread where meredith and i got into a fight about eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. guess not.




