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American Sniper by Chris Kyle

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Feb 29, 12

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Read from February 26 to 29, 2012

I was all excited when I purchased this book, expecting a Carlos Hathcock type tale of derring-do. What a letdown - I was sick of Mr Kyle by page 5.

To begin with, I'm not sure who to credit for this bit of writing; I suspect that Kyle contributed little but the anecdotal accounts and his name to the effort, as two other names are listed with his on the cover. Interestingly, his wife is not given any co-author status although she provides significant input throughout the book.

Now all feelings about the propriety of this very controversial armed incursion into Iraq aside, one thing that turned me off about Kyle was his total lack of regard for his opponent. They're all "evil" or "blinded by evil" throughout this book. What makes them evil is never satisfactorily explained; perhaps Mr Bush's "axis of evil" speech had something to do with it. Anyway, lightly armed Iraqis who oppose heavily armed and armoured coalition troops on Iraqi soil are "evil" and "terrorists". He states several times that he is getting payback. Payback for what, exactly? He also repeatedly claims to be defending his country, although I know of no attempt on the USA by Iraq.

I fully understand that he doesn't decide to send the troops over, and that he has a job to do, but please, Mr Kyle...just a little more regard for the human beings you're killing? Maybe a little remorse for the retarded kid you pounded because he didn't understand you? Hello...he's retarded....and he speaks another lanuage...what the hell did you expect?? People like Mr Kyle are a large part of the reason that the citizens of the USA are held in such disdain by many foreigners. His pomposity and vainglory ooze off of every page.

And the violence! I'm not talking about warfare here...I'm talking recreational violence. Bar fights. Destruction of property. Beating a fellow up because the victim's girlfriend was in an argument with another SEAL. Maybe he figured the other SEAL couldn't handle her? I cannot believe this chap didn't end up in jail. In one chapter he gleefully tells about beating a celebrity because he thought the celebrity (a former governor) was disrespecting a SEAL wake or some such BS. He neglects to mention that the celebrity is now in his 60's. Look it up on Youtube - you can see the "hero" chortling about it on a radio interview.

If this book is worth reading at all, it's only to see the decline in the American military. Apparently the officers have no control. Hazing is rampant. Citizens are beaten with apparent impunity. Childish behaviour like mooning neighbours and chasing Iraqis with radio-controlled vehicles are considered legitimate pastimes. I could go on and on...suffice it to say I won't buy any more books with this fellow's name on them. But if his wife wants to write a book about how she survived living with a self-centred vainglorious manchild, I'm buying it...her contributions were the only parts of the book that made any sense.

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message 1: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Outstanding review, Jim.
A lot of what you speak of in this review reflects my own viewpoint. I often read books where the 'enemy' in Iraq are all terrorist and the local population need to be kicked like dogs (not that I kick dogs, but you know what I mean?) .
I loathe this and mark down any books that give that feel. The best books on modern war are the ones that show the enemy and the local populace some respect. They want to kill Coalition soldiers, but that isn't because they are terrorists, they are just fighting back. Everyone has a right to fight back.
I'll be giving this book a broad sidestep.


message 2: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Terri, I really didn't like to give a negative review to the book. I have a lot of patriotic American friends who will probably not understand why I'm not in total support of this fellow and his antics. I love the USA...it's a great place to visit and I've always felt welcome there. I just don't agree with some of their politics.

You're absolutely right about everyone having the right to fight back. In one passage in the book Kyle exults over killing two Iraqis with one shot as they approached his position on a moped. My feelings were the opposite of his...I felt admiration for the poor quixotic citizens charging armoured soldiers and fighting vehicles on a motorized bicycle. What disturbed me is that Kyle dismissed them as a joke...he had no sense that the opponents were brave human beings fighting for their own soil with outdated equipment.

Please don't take this as being an endorsement of the previous Iraqi - regime; I had no admiration for Saddam.


message 3: by Terri (last edited Feb 29, 2012 02:14pm) (new) - added it

Terri No, I wouldn't take it that way. I am not anti war. I am not pro war either. Like you, I will always support our soldiers, whether the wars they are in are right or wrong, but I do not support lack of respect for 'enemy' or lack of tolerance and compassion towards of local populations. This is something that must be learned from peers in leadership positions, from induction through to the battlefield. Respect, tolerance and compassion can only make an individual a better soldier, wouldn't you say?

I agree with you. Re: the moped guys. Stupid or brave? Like you, I say incredibly brave. To believe in your cause and fear your enemy like they do, and yet get on a moped and go to their death for their beliefs.

Patriotism is good and unifying, but patriotism doesn't mean our countries are perfect dies it? And some very patriotic people seem to think that way. :-) I know ours isn't perfect.


message 4: by Terri (last edited Feb 29, 2012 02:17pm) (new) - added it

Terri Have you read SEAL Team Six: Memoirs of an Elite Navy SEAL Sniper ? I had big issues with that book. Being an elite soldier seems to be an excuse to be lawless and antisocial sometimes. (Not all the time of course, I don't mean to generalise). :-)


message 5: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim I haven't read it and likely won't. I'm losing my admiration for elite soldiery. Our Canadian Airborne Regiment was disbanded for just such controversial goings-on some years ago.


message 6: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri I added this one to my tbr the other day..
Wearing The Green Beret: A Canadian With The Royal Marine Commandos
I may never get around to it though.


message 7: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Oooh! Thanks! I had no idea this book existed.


message 8: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Only too glad to help your tbr expand. :-)


message 9: by Pete (new)

Pete daPixie Brilliant review!


message 10: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Pete wrote: "Brilliant review!"

Thanks Pete.


message 11: by Tasha (new)

Tasha A very helpful review Jim! I'll remove this book from my tbr. Too many other good books. Too bad though, thought this or might be better.


message 12: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Tasha wrote: "A very helpful review Jim! I'll remove this book from my tbr. Too many other good books. Too bad though, thought this or might be better."

Thank you, Tasha. I expected more as well. I really hate giving a bad rating to a book written by a soldier because, well, he's a soldier who puts himself in harm's way and normally isn't much of a wordsmith to begin with. I was so incensed by Kyle's "violence solves problems" approach to life I just couldn't score it any higher.


message 13: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Oh, don't feel bad for not liking a soldiers books (although I know what you mean). Unfortunately being a soldier doesn't guarantee that they aren't a dick about some things. :-)


message 14: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Sadly, "American Sniper" isn't the worst book I've read in this genre. If you want to read something written by the King Dick of Dickville, try this:The Majestic Twelve

They're majestic! And there are twelve of them!


message 15: by Terri (last edited Mar 11, 2012 04:41pm) (new) - added it

Terri Are they really the 'most feared combat protection unit in Baghdad'? I have my doubts. :-)
That Seal Team Six book I mentioned above is the worst I've read.

I found the guy that wrote House to House: An Epic Memoir of War was a bit of a case. Comparing war scenes to movies all the time and quoting movie lines. The worst though was his complete and utter disrespect for the enemy and the locals. He had no compassion at all. They were all 'human meat'.
Despite that, the book is still okay and I gave it 4 stars. It captures their part of the war well....but the guy..erg...


message 16: by C (new)

C Knepper I think many of you folks do not understand is first...there actually. Is a good side of this war and an evil side. (The evil side, for obvious reasons doesn't want you think they sre evil). Second...if you want warriors to defend your nation, then you need to expect them to act like warriors not like office personnel. I have news for some of you...warriors are not like YOU!

It worries me that so many people feel they would be much kinder and understanding of the enemies we face and therefore place judgement on folks like Chris Kyle. He is obviously a good man that is good at he job. A job no one here can qualify to get. Yet somehow many here feel qualified to critique and judge.

I thought Chris's story described adequately why the "evil" guys had to die. They tortured local citizens, while our guys tried to save local citizens. These enemies did not pour water down there noses with doctors standing by....they tortured people in basements untill they died! That is evil...is it not in your view? Would you try to attack our soldiers with a granade while carrying your own baby? Is that not evil?

I was glad to here the details of what our soldiers are going thru...all you here on the news is. "5 soldiers died today" or "x number of 'civilians' were killed today" the press doesn't tell the whole story Chris Kyle does.

I LOVE THIS BOOK...I LOVE OUR SOLDIERS...AND I LOVE THE USA!


message 17: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri There are some here who are qualified, and most of your remarks are way off..so..wow...I see you have cornered the market on being judgmental. Well done there.

For the record, there is no 'evil' side in any war. Only enemy. As a warrior, I am not sure if you know this, but you do not kill evil, you kill targets and you kill to defend and protect. Evil and good does not come into the equation.

A good warrior, a good soldier, has respect for his or her enemy.
And if you think that pouring water down someone's nose with doctors standing by is the only EIT that the U.S has used since the start of the wars in the Middle East then you are gullible beyond words.

By the way... no-one here said they were against soldiers or the USA. It is the book and the way Chris Kyle (or others mentioned) portrayed himself that drew criticism.
So take a chill pill, dude.


message 18: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim C wrote: "I think many of you folks do not understand is first...there actually. Is a good side of this war and an evil side. (The evil side, for obvious reasons doesn't want you think they sre evil). Seco..."

I have no problem with Kyle being a competent soldier, and I have no problem with his engaging legitimate armed targets. I don't like the way he gloats about it, and I don't like his violent nature when he's stateside. How do you justify all the fights and vandalism and his attack on a former US Governor? Was he evil too?

I wonder if you have an explanation for the news out of Afghanistan today, where an American soldier shot a bunch of unarmed women and kids. I'd love to hear you justify that. Was it the work of the liberal press or a commie plot?


message 19: by C (new)

C Knepper Terri wrote: "There are some here who are qualified, and most of your remarks are way off..so..wow...I see you have cornered the market on being judgmental. Well done there.

For the record, there is no 'evil' ..."


There is another "Goodread"...a book titled "Outlaw Platoon" let me quote a segment of it for you to describe what I would call evil at work ...."They (the enemy) had taken the elder's grandson back to one of their mountain hideouts, where they gouged his eyes out. They had turned him into a sexual plaything, knocking out his teeth to increase their pleasure with him. They had raped this six-year-old boy for weeks."

Which good warrior do you know that has respect for that? Do you respect those actions? Is that not an evil act in your view? I would appreciate a direct answer to these questions, because I would like to better understand why it is so hard for some people to recognize the good vs the evil in the world. Thank You.


message 20: by C (new)

C Knepper Jim wrote: "C wrote: "I think many of you folks do not understand is first...there actually. Is a good side of this war and an evil side. (The evil side, for obvious reasons doesn't want you think they sre ev..."

Jim...let me first remove the straw dog you injected into the debate here...it is the fact that you suppose I would "Justify" a US soldier murdering civilians in cold blood. In fact, if this story turns out to be true (which it looks like it will) it just proves my point...there is a good and there is an evil. Juxtapose this soldiers actions with the actions of the armed forces as a whole. We have enough firepower to kill every civilian in Afghanistan yet we show great restraint at the expense of our own soldiers lives in many cases. We spend massive resources to try and help those in need while at the same time finding and capturing and/or killing those who want to harm us. Do you not see the contrast between a warrior and a murderer? The contrast between the good guys and the bad guys?

This soldier who apparently murdered all of those civilians will be placed on trail and he will be punished for his crimes. Yet, if our enemy were to accomplish the same thing on our shores in one of our neighborhoods, they would be held up as heroes There are stark differences in the way the good guys behave and the way the bad guys behave. Do you not see those differences?

as for Chris Kyle's fighting...i would justify that as long as he is fighting other warriors. You may note, that in his book, he is fighting willing participants. i.e. other warriors. He was fighting those who were looking for a fight. If Jessie Ventura, for example, truly went to a SEAL wake and said, "You guys deserve to loose a few" right after on of the SEALs politely asked you to keep it down a bit....Come on, man...really...what do you think would happen to you if you did that lol :-) And like I said...Jessie is a warrior, too...he knew what he was getting into by doing that.

Chris Kyle and men like him are protectors, fierce protectors but the finished product of their work is violence, that is why they are proud of it it is what they do. Hell, if you pay attention, you will see that they even beat each other up! LOL :-) Like i said..they are not like you..so please don't judge them through the same lens you would judge a regular guy. As long as a fighter is fighting another fighter...let them fight.


message 21: by C (new)

C Knepper Jim wrote: "Terri, I really didn't like to give a negative review to the book. I have a lot of patriotic American friends who will probably not understand why I'm not in total support of this fellow and his an..."

While they may have been quixotic they may not have been "citizens" of Iraq at all. Chris Kyle mentions battling enemies from several different counties.

You may remember that the enemy he was fighting was also, in many cases, not so much quixotic at all, but instead drugged up and wasted. He describes finding several drug cashes during their battles. If that is true, it would be hard to see those fighters as being caught up in the romance of noble deeds.....but instead just a bunch of screwed up junkies.


message 22: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim C wrote:


Which good warrior do you know that has respect for that? Do you respect those actions? Is that not an evil act in your view? I would appreciate a direct answer to these questions, because I would like to better understand why it is so hard for some people to recognize the good vs the evil in the world. Thank You.

First of all, I'd have to see that to believe it. I assume these are Islamic militants who are alleged to have perpetrated this deed. Of course I condemn it, and the religion of Islam condemns it, and most Arabic countries have the death penalty for crimes like this. I have to agree that this crime, if it happened, is particularly heinous and I can easily understand that someone would consider these criminals to be evil. I personally would be happy to see them get the death penalty.

But I think you missed my point; what I was maintaining is that just because someone opposes your nation or any nation in battle, it does not necessarily follow that that person is evil. When Brits and Argentinians battled over the Falklands I never heard either side refer to the opponent as evil.

I know that excesses were committed by Islamists, and I don't condone them for a second. As an example: both sides have shown disrespect to the bodies of slain opponents. What possible useful purpose can that serve? I maintain that there is an honorable way to fight a war and that our friends in the USA should be fighting honorably, not letting themselves get dragged down to the level of the enemy.



message 23: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim C wrote: "Jim wrote: "Terri, I really didn't like to give a negative review to the book. I have a lot of patriotic American friends who will probably not understand why I'm not in total support of this fello..."
I feel pretty silly responding to someone who just made up a phony anonymous profile for the purpose of sniping at a book review, but what the heck. You're right of course; small numbers of foreign troops were fighting with the Iraqis. In fact, Kyle mentions mowing down a group of Chechens he basically had in his custody. As far as drugs go, have you ever read anything about US troops in Vietnam and their widespread use of drugs?


message 24: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Hi C.
Okay. You got a deal. Since you asked nicely, I am happy to chat about this. :-)

I know the book you speak of. I have not read it yet, although I plan to, and I actually have a mate who is readng it now.

There are kind of two trains of thought here that I can touch on. One is so deep that I don't think I can do the topic justice in so short a message.
Let's see...Good vs Evil. To me to discuss Good vs Evil you are talking more a theological discussion. I am not a practising 'anything' so to me, there is no such thing as good versus evil. There are baddies, there are good guys, but an actual good vs evil...seems to me more paralelled with God vs the Devil. I don't go in for that.

However, I do sometimes use the word Evil to describe an individusl. Such as Jeffery Damar or Saddam. But I don't use the word with the passion that you do. I believe an individual can do bad things. I believe a good person can do good things. But good side and evil side? No, there is no such thing...unless it is your religion to think that way.

And besides, who ever said that the U.S or the allies are the'good side' and our enemies are 'the evil side'? Our countries have done many bad things and I don't think we have a right to say we are the 'good side'. Who is good and who is bad is subjective, depending on who you talk to.

A pregnant woman who throws a grenade at a soldier. Who is evil? Neither is evil. For the soldier is invading her country and people do terribly desperate things for their religion or for patriotism or their loved ones.
Besides, bad deeds also have back stories. Why did she do it? For her country, her religion...or did she do it because someone had threatened to decapitate her loved ones if she didn't do it. Who knows. But as you no doubt know. People do some wild things in the face of the trauma of war.

The incident outlined in Outlaw Platoon. You have some crazy bastards doing some cruel things to another human being...are they evil? American individuals have done just as bad things to children on home soil. Does that make Americans Evil? Americans have tortured in every theatre. Does that make America evil? No it doesn't.
Should it make the Arabs you are fighting evil? I don't think so.
You have enemy. People that fight back against western countries are enemy, not evil.
I would like to recommend a book to you if you haven't already read it.

On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society


message 25: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Oh, seems you two have been chatting away while I was composing my message. Lol. I am a slow typer on the tablet. :-)


Adamsmith1766 I have a completely different perspective on this. I'm interested & fascinated in books about snipers because I think it's an impossible job that I could never do well regardless of oodles of training. Why? I think one needs to be a sociopath to be truly good at the job. I think the government knows that and recruits sociopaths to have a useful role in society. I have no judgement on it, other than being grateful I'm not in the cross-hairs of any sociopath or sniper. And, btw, sociopaths might pretend to have a conscience, but they don't really have a sense of right & wrong. I want to see the inside look at both snipers and sociopaths.


message 27: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Adamsmith1766 wrote: "I have a completely different perspective on this. I'm interested & fascinated in books about snipers because I think it's an impossible job that I could never do well regardless of oodles of trai..."

That's an interesting perspective and, while it may not be true in all cases, I wouldn't eliminate the possibility here. You are certainly right in one thing: the job requires a special breed of cat and is very hard to do. I'll still read sniper books because the mechanics of the trade are intriguing.


message 28: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Hi Adam,
Food for thought indeed. I don't necessarily agree, but it is an interesting perspective for sure. I know our Aussie snipers wouldn't go in for being called a sociopath. I know they feel every kill. Thanks for the input though. :-)


Bryan Yates If you where not there you just would not understand. It is a state of mind. If you don't like the USA then move.


message 30: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Bryan wrote: "If you where not there you just would not understand. It is a state of mind. If you don't like the USA then move."

Because I don't care for this author doesn't mean that I dislike the USA. Do you have a problem with my freedom and my right to dislike something or must I always think like you?


Bryan Yates Your freedom to do that was given to you by veterans like me. I served my country to give people the right to think as they will. But to put down this veteran for what he was trained to do is small minded. You would not know what it is like to be there of you where not there. Not taking a shower for 9 weeks but I would gladly do it again.


message 32: by Terri (last edited Jun 09, 2012 04:50pm) (new) - added it

Terri Bryan, I respect that you are a veteran, and I know Jim would too, and thankyou for your service, (even though you did not serve my country, but every nation that fights on foreign shores together are connected) but fighting for your country you are also representing your country. What a soldier does in their uniform and out of it, reflects on the country they fight for.
Just being a soldier does not give him or her the right to do and say and be whoever the hell they want without judgement. But I think the big issue here, and with many military memoirs, when one puts it in a book they are opening up their behaviour to public opinion. It is part and parcel of writing a book about yourself.
Yet it is freedom of speech that allows people to be disaproving of Chris Kyle and his attitude in this book. To say otherwise, to taunt someone for being negative about the way Chris Kyle portrays himself in this book, is oppression. The opposite of what you fought for.


Bryan Yates I truly respect your view on this matter. I served with many good men from your country. They where truly a bunch of great men. Thanks for your comments.


message 34: by Terri (new) - added it

Terri Well thankyou very much for your wonderful words. I am deeply touched mate. (And a little choked up. Thankyou). :-)


message 35: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Bryan wrote: "Your freedom to do that was given to you by veterans like me. I served my country to give people the right to think as they will. But to put down this veteran for what he was trained to do is small..."
Wow. I don't think I've ever been called small minded by a fellow who has only read one book before. There's a first time for everything, I guess. Let's get this straight: I have nothing against soldiers. I admire most snipers for their skills and abilities; Carlos Hathcock, for example, is a man I admire. Billy Sing, the Australian sniper, is another. I'm sure the Middle East is full of noble servicemen doing their jobs to the best of their ability. I just don't like Kyle, his book, or his attitude. I'm not putting him down for what he was trained to do; I'm putting him down because I think he's psychotic and wrote a bad book. But hey, it's a free country, so feel free to disagree with me; I sure feel free to disagree with you.


message 36: by Scott (new) - rated it 1 star

Scott Archer I just finished the book tonight. Jim, you captured my feelings exactly. I guess every military needs soldiers like Chris Kyle, and if I was serving in Iraq, selfishly I would be glad he was serving nearby for my own self-preservation. But I certainly would not want him in a leadership role nor making decisions or policy. And he is not someone I would befriend or admire. I found his religious and political views abhorrent and about as deep as the skin on pudding.


message 37: by Jim (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jim Scott wrote: "I just finished the book tonight. Jim, you captured my feelings exactly. I guess every military needs soldiers like Chris Kyle, and if I was serving in Iraq, selfishly I would be glad he was servin..."

Thanks Scott. I really was looking forward to the book, as it sounded like the type of story I could get into. I don't get any pleasure out of giving a bad review, but I thought that Kyle's actions reflected very poorly on his country's military forces. I found him to be totally out of touch with reality and I was unable to understand his rationalization: exactly how does shooting Iraqis in Iraq defend the USA? If you want a decent book on the American experience in Iraq I recommend Joker One  A Marine Platoon's Story of Courage, Leadership, and Brotherhood


message 38: by Scott (new) - rated it 1 star

Scott Archer Thanks Jim. I will check it out. It was pretty early in the book when he started calling the Iraqis that he was shooting "terrorists." I nearly stopped reading then. The guy came across to me as dumb and shallow. The book is written at sixth grade level and skips all over the place.

The popularity of this book is surprising and disturbing.


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