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The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins
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Read in July, 2008

Fantastically Written? Ooooh yeah! Compelling? Yup! Super Quick Read? Most definitely! Original? Um...well *shuffles feet, since I seem to be a rare non-five star-er* not original at all really....

Man, I wish someone on my friends list here has also read Battle Royale and this book! The Hunger Games WAS pretty fantastic, hence the four stars (though I would have given 3 1/2 if the choice was available.) I ate it up, shouting into other rooms and offices that I was going to be shoving the book into their hands as soon as I was done, but as it went on desha vu was a little too common for me. I know there are major story types out there, ones that are repeated over and over again. Shakespeare retold 200 different ways. The bible reinterpreted to 2,000,000 varieties of tales....but when it comes to YA dystopia, which is by far my favorite genre of any book, originality is one of my main ways I judge a book. FEED felt utterly original. The world of UGLIES felt new. LITTLE BROTHER was just plain amazing. If it's going to be about "the future" we don't know about, make it original. In my mind dystopia novels survive on "idea" more than "excecution" and while the execution of this was beautiful, the idea was hardly new.

While I have a really good feeling Collins never read, or maybe even heard of, Battle Royale, The Hunger Games was 90% the plot of Battle Royal, minus the guns, the extra blood, the ability to get to know all the other players. In Battle Royal (short explanation of BR plot: 40 students put on island forced to kill each other and winner is set for life and put on TV etc...), the main focus is a love story between two students trapped in the game, two students bonding together with no real urge to kill others...one of whom had a crush on the other forever and it is only revealed during the game. There are so many other similarities, from the ways the gamemakers manipulate, to the ways the media encourages, to one character having a fever and the other taking care of them with soup. There are even "career" battle royal players. In BR you see the emotions before and after someone is killed, their last thoughts, the feeling of the person who killed. It's actually really beautiful the way it is done, and so believable that put in an arena teens WOULD turn into savages. In The Hunger Games, yes the main characters were fantastic, and many of the lesser as well, but Foxface is only Foxface, and the Careers are never more than random 1-dimensional bad guys.

The Hunger Games was very Battle Royale, very The Long Walk (Richard Bachman book), and very much current reality shows. I am not saying it wasn't a GREAT read, I'm just saying it shouldn't shake the publishing earth the way I am pretty sure it is going to. I anticipate this is the next Twilight series people are going to gush over. In a few years we'll all be hosting Hunger Games final book parties. I'll be amongst the attendees I'm sure.

Also in terms of female main characters, Katiniss may surpass Bella in me wanting to shake sense into a character. Talk about a smart girl being utterly clueless!

Yes, it was great, but eh, maybe I'm just bitter because I think BR is the better book of the two and while Hunger Games will get tons of praise and likely a rather deserved award or two, BR will continue to be banned in many libraries. Amazing what subtracting guns can do to a story. Suddenly it doesn't feel as violent, but rather is more reminiscent of stories we heard growing up. The number of swords and arrow deaths in traditional fairytales is nothing to freak out about, but if bullets are flying, it will give "too many ideas" to teens and therefore must be dubbed an adult book.

I'm pretty sure if I hadn't read BR just a few months back this exeedingly long review would have been just as long only instead of a rant it would have just been one long squeeeeeal of delight over how much I loved the book.




Original Comment: Peer pressure, peer pressure, peer pressure. Geez guys! Alright, alright I'll read it!
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message 1: by Martha (new) - added it

Martha And you will be happy you caved!


Betsy Hey, I totally mentioned Battle Royale in my review (though admittedly I mentioned the movie and not the book). Do I get a prize?


Colleen Venable Haha. Yes, actually I did notice that and you do get the gold star of the day for at least knowing about the movie. Also the fact you do say it's been done before gets you another gold star. You keep this up I'll have to get a new bulletin board!

I was debating this for a while with a few people: Would you consider it YA? It feels almost too young to be YA, which is a bit disturbing considering how many people die in it.


Monica Edinger I actually had a similar reaction to FEED. That is, Anthony Burgess had done some of the same stuff with language and commercialization in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.


Betsy Yeah, except that "A Clockwork Orange" never used that terrible terrible futuristic slang. I have a real beef with badly done terms like "unit". *shudder*

As for whether or not "Hunger Games" is YA or not, in spite of the multiple deaths I thought it was fine for 12 and 13-year-olds. It's just that (spoiler alert) agonizing death of the last kid that launches it a little older in my eyes.


message 6: by Monica (last edited Jul 26, 2008 05:02AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Monica Edinger Betsy, you mean the slang in FEED? I hope as I loved the language in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. "There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie, and Dim, Dim being really dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar making up our rassodocks what to do with the evening, a flip dark chill winter bastard though dry."

I also think HUNGER GAMES is suitable for 11 and up.


Roxanne Hsu Feldman This is definitely going to be marketed to (and read) by readers BELOW your usual YA crowd.

Now I really want to read Battle Royale but can't.

I'm glad to know the similarities between the two novels and am a little surprised at some of the overlapping details. I wonder if there will be more "noise" over this later on when more people have a chance to read it.

I'm curious: are there all the behind the scene, fashion designer, etc. stuff in BR? Are there details and scenes that are quite new in HG?

(Actually, when I first read The Giver, my immediate reaction, even though I really liked the book since it was for younger readers, was that ... hmm... this seems familiar... seems "done" quite a few times already. But, not for that particular age-range, and not exactly the same.)



message 8: by Colleen (last edited Feb 25, 2009 03:51AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Colleen Venable Monica: I've actually never read Clockwork Orange. I've seen the movie, of course. (pretty much impossible to get through angsty teenage-dom without seeing it) I have a feeling the book differs a lot, mostly because they always do. I'm adding it to my to-read. Thanks for the suggestion!

When I think of FEED I think more about the concept of having the internet in our brains, and the twisted nature of the "love" story in it. The book scares me because I'm pretty sure if someone said "Hey if I put this in your brain you'll never have to carry your really, really heavy laptop (you are always worried about dropping) around again" I would just shout "Sign! Me! Up!" The technology concepts were what felt original to me, not so much the characters or slang. And I always do tend to like the complex feelings that go through my head following around unlikeable protagonists.

It's really all about what you read first perhaps. If I had read this before BR perhaps I'd be ranting that the Hunger Games was better, since in my mind it was more original then.

Betsy: Yeah the whole "dogs" part made me think it should be older. That part terrified me! At first I thought it a ridiculous devise, but the more I thought about how it represented what the Capital could do to change and manipulate people. *shudders*

Fairrosa (Hey Roxanne! Just added you!): Battle Royale is amazing, but is very bloody and intense. I loved the story behind the blood, but always worry about suggesting it for people to read! There's already a little noise in Amazon reviews about this comparison.

Actually the fashion designer and coaching for the media was the most original and compelling parts of HG for me. The whole Olympic Games style opening was amazing as well as her relationships with her mentors, a drunk who grows and changes as a person, and a pretty-girl who seems to end up exactly the same. That I did love. The story and characters AROUND the game I adored.


Betsy Oh, and I was talking about the slang in "Feed", yes. I never like futureslang but at least "Clockwork Orange" didn't have fathers saying "Dude" all the time.

Ditto to the fear of wanting the Internet in your head. I could blog walking down the street! I could blog on the subway! I could blog . . .


Newengland Just finished HUNGER GAMES (and LITTLE BROTHER just before it -- fancy mentioning THAT in your review, too). I went from 5 to 4 stars because I thought it could have been tighter. That is, I loved this book but it began to drag slightly toward the end. Just when Collins should have been turning it up on notch on the violence/fighting scenes (with only a handful of tributes left), she gets all domestic on us and goes way too long on the Katniss/Peeta love scenes (if they can be called as much in a fairy tale kind of way).

Never heard of BATTLE ROYALE (much less read it). Is it (like this book) middle school friendly? I'm always looking for fast reads like HUNGER GAMES that will pass the middle school censors so I can include them in my classroom library. High school? Not an issue there, as it definitely fits the "teen" genre designation. Middle school is a gray area...


message 11: by Boyd (new) - rated it 4 stars

Boyd Battle Royale is definitely NOT middle school friendly from what my students who read it told me.

When I saw your review of this book, BR was the first thing that came to mind. Lots of my students read it while we were reading Lord of the Flies in class.



Colleen Venable I agree with Boyd. BR is definitely not middle school. I would even say it shouldn't be read until 11th grade or perhaps advanced 10th graders. The teens are extremely realistic and we see their thoughts, which means TONS of unfiltered thoughts of sex and memories of sex and violence, and horrible things they endured in the past (being abused..etc.) It's intense, and yes, there is also a lot of blood, some parts so graphic I had trouble reading them.


message 13: by Newengland (last edited Feb 25, 2009 03:51AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Newengland Hmn. Looks like even I might take a pass on it (mentally being an unadvanced 10th grader and all...). I also didn't realize that THE HUNGER GAMES is not scheduled to be released until October.


Jessikah Random reader who saw your review... I totally agree.

I liked Hunger Games, but having read (and been blown away by Battle Royale) I wanted a bit more. Hunger Games is good... BR was better. Battle Royale, however is better for an older audience. I could give this to 6th and 7th graders, but Battle Royale is more high school. What do you think?





Chantel Great review, Colleen!


message 16: by Cheryl (last edited Sep 25, 2008 07:29PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cheryl Callahan Woah, good call on the Twilight phenomenon. Your review was posted in July - in September, Stephenie Meyer posted this book on her blog as recommended reading to her millions of loyal fans, positively skyrocketing its sales numbers. How does it feel to see the future?


message 17: by River (last edited Feb 25, 2009 03:51AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

River 913689 I'm so happy to see that I'm not the only one who saw THE HUNGER GAMES and immediately thought of BATTLE ROYALE. I read BR years ago and I've been trying to get people to read it (they usually just want to watch the movie) so it does make me kinda sad that this book is going to be the Next. Big. Thing. while BR is going to remain more of a cult thing.

Anyways, I work for Borders, so I'm ALWAYS eying the new shipments for new YA books and when I saw this one I was like 'ohhh, sweet!!!' but as soon as I read the inside cover I was like WTF!!! So now I'm a little annoyed (BR does hold a very special spot in my heart), and doubly annoyed because S.Meyer is now promoting HG and well, we all know how everyone worships the ground she walks on...

Um. Sorry this got long winded... but I'm just really happy to see that I'm not the only one who's noticed this. And I agree with a lot of what you said in this review as well.


Sarah When I described Hunger Games to my boyfriend, his immediate response was, "Sounds like Battle Royale". Though I haven't read BR, I am anxious to tell him that others agree with him. Now I'll be hearing the dreaded, "I told you so!"

:)


Clickety *grin* Just saw HG mentioned on The Reading Zone, and Battle Royale was the first thing that came to mind (though I've got the movie, not the novel).

Another story that popped into my memory is... gosh, I can't quite remember the title... "The Survivor" maybe? about a deathmatch that's a cross between war and sports, and any survivors on the winning team get an insane amount of status - people treat them like gods.


message 20: by andy (last edited Feb 25, 2009 03:52AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

andy yes. i also couldn't stop thinking battle royale while i read this book. for years i shoved battle royal" into the hands of friends, coworkers, acquaintances, anyone who wanted a new book to read, and now i have something a little less gory to replace it with.

loved both books to death. both were gripping. the thing about the hunger games is at least we can look forward to a couple more books in the series that might flesh out a post-battle royale story here (the movie battle royale 2 doesn't count! haha!)


Libbie Elizabeth wrote: "Yeah, except that "A Clockwork Orange" never used that terrible terrible futuristic slang. I have a real beef with badly done terms like "unit". *shudder*


Huh? Did you read the novel, or watch the film? The film version of A Clockwork Orange was pretty heavy on the slang, but the novel was ten times heavier. Radoozocks, glazzies, droogs, miloko, gutti-wutts, horrorshow...cripes, the slang was thicker than a hobo's breath.



Libbie Also, I have to point out that the "people fighting each other to the death for the entertainment of a higher class of citizens" thing isn't a new concept either, Battle Royale be jiggered. Ever heard of Roman gladiators?


message 23: by Nicole (last edited Feb 25, 2009 03:52AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nicole Also a random reader who saw your review -- I definitely thought the same thing as you about the Hunger Games being a lot like Battle Royale (I saw the movie *and* read the book - whew!) I would tell those who were asking if BR was a YA book -- I read it my senior year in high school, and I had some serious nightmares, which rarely ever happens to me when it comes to books. I would be really careful about which high schoolers you recommend BR to.

But this book is definitely a great one for the YA audience, and for adults. I can't wait for the second one to come out in September!


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finally read this - and you said everything i wanted to, so am just pointing everyone to this review. main diff between this and BR: man, BR (print version) made me cover my eyes!


message 25: by Jen (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen I agree- 3 1/2 stars would be a perfect rating! (And this is also coming from a mostly 5-starer.) I also agree that she was extremely clueless when it came to Peeta. Sheesh. I'm really looking forward to/hoping that the characters and their relationships to develop a lot more in the sequel. I read the book in like 2 days, so it was a quick read, but it really didn't do anything fantastic for me. But ya'll make me want to read Battle Royale now. I work at Barnes & Noble, and when I described the book to the music manager, he was like "Oh, that sounds like Battle Royale!" So, I guess BR will be on my shelves soon. Have agreat one, everybody! :)


message 26: by Jen (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen I agree- 3 1/2 stars would be a perfect rating! (And this is also coming from a mostly 5-starer.) I also agree that she was extremely clueless when it came to Peeta. Sheesh. I'm really looking forward to/hoping that the characters and their relationships to develop a lot more in the sequel. I read the book in like 2 days, so it was a quick read, but it really didn't do anything fantastic for me. But ya'll make me want to read Battle Royale now. I work at Barnes & Noble, and when I described the book to the music manager, he was like "Oh, that sounds like Battle Royale!" So, I guess BR will be on my shelves soon. Have a great one, everybody! :)


Rachel Awesome! I've never read Battle Royale, so this should be perfect for moi. And after I read this, I won't ever touch Battle Royale!


Stephanie hey I haven't read this book yet and the comparison to Battle Royale really helped. I haven't really looked into the description of the book yet. I have read most of the manga so i get what you're saying^^


message 29: by Kira (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kira I totally agree with this review that if you have read Battle Royale, The Hunger Games is still great but seems derivative. As for the level of Battle Royale, I read it in Gr 11 and found it gory but nothing I couldn't handle (despite not usually enjoying or reading scary or violent books). On the other hand I saw the movie after reading the book and it left me covering my eyes at times. Maybe gore just seems less gory in a book than in a movie.

Overall Battle Royale and Hunger Games were similar, but each had their elements that made them seem better than the other. The only thing that makes Battle Royale come out ahead in my mind is that it came first.


Rachel Kira wrote: "I totally agree with this review that if you have read Battle Royale, The Hunger Games is still great but seems derivative. As for the level of Battle Royale, I read it in Gr 11 and found it gory b..."

I'm confused...I have to pick one because I won't enjoy the other after reading the one I picked...so which, first? Both have good reviews!


Clickety I liked BR better but I don't think it was because I was introduced to it first. IMO, the concept translates better as horror (BR) than as adventure/suspense (HG). And they're both enjoyable, no matter which one you read first.


Stephanie I finally read the hunger games and just picked up the second one today. I'm so glad I decided to read them


Chris Brandvold Battle Royale is one of those books that really sticks with you. Years later I still recommend to friends looking for something more thought provoking and challenging than the popular fare. Guess I need to check out Hunger Games!


Vampreader I was def pleasantly surprised. I didn't really think much of this book until I started it. Great plot, one of the best I've ever read and plenty of twists to keep any reader hooked.


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Jade Iceshard I've never read Battle Royal, and maybe it was just this whole "vampire craze" but I really saw the Hunger Games as something new. Its one of my all time favorites now :)


Sofia Another one who's relieved I'm not the only one who thinks HG is a lot like BR (although lacking in some departments--still, to be fair, I thought some characters in HG were a little more well-developed than any character I can think of in BR). Anyways, I completely agree with everything in your review. Thank you for posting it.


Manda There's a similar premise between Battle Royale and the Hunger Games, yes it's true. Just quietly though, I couldn't concentrate in BR because most of the time I was laughing at how dreadful the writing was. I found these characters a lot easier to empathise with and relate to as they didn't spend their time asking each other who they had a crush on.




Stephanie I read these and also thought of BR (I saw the movie though, I am definitely planning on reading the book) I am also feeling bitter towards it, not that it wasn't a good read, but it's just disappointing to know it feels like a complete copy. I think I'm seeing it as a good YA extension of BR, but still I can't bring myself to love it. Plus, most people who read this don't seem to know about BR, it's frustrating :P


Phoebe Great review--the similarities between this, Battle Royale, and the Long Walk (which I read just this year) nagged on me throughout my reading.


Kathy I had exactly the same problem with this book! I couldn't put it down, it was fantastic -- but hadn't I already this book? In fact when I finished it I searched my house for my copy of Battle Royale so that I could reread it, to see if it was really as similar as I remembered (I had read it 2 years before), but I couldn't find it anywhere :( .
I had hoped that the second book would be enough of a departure from the "game" that I could read it with out the nagging feeling that I'd read it before, but I guess I'll just have to wait for the third.


Stephanie. Thank you for mentioning Battle Royale, it was something I was thinking about, but luckily my partner in crime reminded me that was the name of it.

The other thing it had me thinking about was Running Man. Which is silly but made reading the book even more awesome.


Matthew Battle Royale was amazing, and yes, this book seems similar. Will have to give it a read!


Jamie Was the book actually like The Long Walk, or are you possibly confusing it with the book (not movie) version of The Running Man?

Either way, I'm mildly curious about it - I'm just concerned about this being a "young adult" book (especially given the multitudes of female reviewers). I'm 37 and male, so I'm wondering how much appeal it may hold for me. (View my read list to better guage whether you think it'll be worth my time.)


Stephanie. I haven't read The Long Walk yet but it is on my list. It definitely made me think of The Running Man but the music from the movie, not the book.

I'd suggest just trying to give it a read and see what you think. It's definitely a YA book that to me, didn't quite feel like a YA book.


Annabel Grinbergs Less than 24hrs...done. Love love lived it!


Kelly I'm not bitter about this being similar to another book. I haven't read Battle Royale so thank all of you! I now have another book to add to my reading list, because I absolutely LOVED the Hunger Games.

The psychological concept has also been illustrated in 'House of Stairs' by William Sleator, though not in the same scenerio. A group of teenagers in that book are taken from foster homes, taken to this big building full of nothing but staircases and are forced to interact with a machine to receive food for rewards. Eventually, the machine only responds when they treat each other cruelly. The weird thing? Reading about the concept of this reminded me of that book that I haven't read in a good 17 years...so I ordered it along with The Hunger Games. I'm reading it next.


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Samantha i read this book prior to reading battle royale and upon telling my best friend about this book, he recommended BR to me. i find both of these books amazing, however i did enjoy HG more because, traditionally, i like books with female narrators more.


Steph Foster I am a big Battle Royale fan and compared them as well. Battle Royale - for me - was a bit more sophisticated but I loved them both. I also prefer the female perspective.


Tiffany I think that your comparison of Battle Royale to the Hunger Games is quite, well off. First of all the children were put on an island due to the fact that the children were rebelling and being crazy, so the government put them there to make an example out of them. Yes there was the similar theme of survival of the fittest, but the books are set in completely different worlds. The kids in hunger games all range grossly in age, and they know from the time they were born that their is a chance they may have to fight to the death in order to bring food home to their districts as well as wealth to themselves. The children in Battle Royale had no idea what was happening to them, and it was more a Lord of the Flies if the children were ordered to kill each other.

I'm not saying the Collins has a completely original story on her hands; however, to say that 90% was taken from Battle Royale well that's unbased.




Tiffany Manda wrote: "There's a similar premise between Battle Royale and the Hunger Games, yes it's true. Just quietly though, I couldn't concentrate in BR because most of the time I was laughing at how dreadful the wr..."

Finally someone who gets it!


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