Andrés's Reviews > Royal Assassin
Royal Assassin (Farseer Trilogy, #2)
by Robin Hobb (Goodreads Author)
by Robin Hobb (Goodreads Author)
Andrés's review
bookshelves: good-is-dumb, political-intrigue, disappointments
Jul 08, 12
bookshelves: good-is-dumb, political-intrigue, disappointments
Read from October 08 to 10, 2011
I will rant about this book, there's no doubt in my mind. I'm simply trying to gather my thoughts. Let's try with the first book, "Assassin's Apprentice," shall we?
I liked Book I. It was a beginning story, a training story. Young FitzChivalry is the bastard son of King-in-Waiting Chivalry and has to come to terms with a world that doesn't want him. King Shrewd, however, decides to train him as an assassin from an early age, and so begins young Fitz' journey into adulthood and the intrigues of the royal court. Book I works because Fitz is too young to understand half of what he's doing or to give any serious thought to it. He's learning to play a dangerous chess game against opponents who have far more experience, though usually less sense, than him. Therefore, we expect his failures to be on par with his victories, probably to surpass them even.
Book II suffers from trying to pull the same stunt twice to an older and more experienced Fitz. We tell ourselves Fitz would have learned from the ordeals in Book I, that he would try to forge his own identity, make his own decisions, be his own man for once. He doesn't. At no time did I feel him grow as a character, rather he was always complaining about how unfair life was to him, about what he wanted to do, never sparing a thought for others except occasionally and briefly. Fitz is always putting his urges, his desires, first, always at the expense of putting other people in danger. An assassin should know better.
So, yes, this turns Fitz into a selfish, little brat, but there's still worse to come. I've said it before and I'll say it again: heroes (and their entourage) needn't be stupid for villains to be smart. But this is what happens in Book II. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is dumb beyond the point of credulity, wielding feeble arguments to argue passivity. Of course, this only makes Fitz' character even dumber for going along with it all. Treason is brewing in the royal court and everyone seems to believe inaction is the best remedy. Some even go so far as claiming it's their only choice, a ludicrous thought. Peasants, soldiers, lords, all are easily duped by a web of conspiracy that can be seen from light years away. Not one character makes a sensible choice throughout the length of Book II and the author has utterly failed to convince me about the reasons why.
I suppose what angers me the most is how the author manipulates hope to lure the reader in. Hope that Fitz will become his own man, hope that things will turn out okay, hope that somebody will have the sense to kill Regal once and for all and thus put an end to his far-fetched charade. With every turn of page, every chapter that gets consumed by the reader, things take a turn for the worse; each successive title forebodes another dark, depressing chapter, and the reader's hopes slowly, but surely, ebb away. It's an incredibly depressing book, not so much for the plot itself, but because of how unbelievably the characters act. The author seems intent on convincing you that two plus two equals five when you know it to be four.
I tried to convince myself Book III would be better. I checked the one-star reviews to prepare for the worst and was not disappointed. Everything I've read points to a long and pointless read that turns productive towards its bittersweet ending that seems more bitter than sweet. There's apparently another trilogy about Fitz' exploits that tries to tie some, if not all, of the plot holes of the Farseer Trilogy, but I presently feel too deceived by this trilogy to entertain the notion of beginning another one, with the same dumb protagonist and written by the same author.
Originally, I gave this a two-star rating out of pity, more than anything else, but then "Rule of Two" came to mind. I gave that one a one-star rating on the basis of its incredible -in the true sense of the word- plot, but I think "Royal Assassin" is the first book I've read that not only has a plot that doesn't hold water, of any kind, but it is also way too depressing going about it. At this point in time, I wish I could erase this book from memory, commit it to some deep, dark corner of my mind and leave it there for all eternity.
Some time in the distant future I may gather the will to read the end of this trilogy. Or perhaps not. But if there's something Robin Hobb has helped me discover is what kind of fantasy I enjoy and what kind I don't. I've discovered I don't enjoy the kind of fantasy that puts its main character through a constant stream of endless suffering that furthers no plot or character development. Suffering for the sake of suffering itself is pointless. Worse, it's bad writing or, in any event, it makes for bad reading.
To close this rather long rant I leave you with this: In my world of reading/writing I praise subtlety over brutality, cunning over stupidity, strong characters that react to circumstance rather than being manipulated by the author's desires. Every writer sets him or herself with an endgame. Some, in trying to organise their way through to it, lose perspective of their characters, wondering more about getting character X to do action Y and less about why character X should do action Y in the first place. I won't say whether this is right or wrong, but I've always valued the latter over the former. So, my advice, for whatever is worth, is this: build strong characters, set your pieces, and only then play the game. Who knows, maybe the game will take you in unforeseeable directions...
I liked Book I. It was a beginning story, a training story. Young FitzChivalry is the bastard son of King-in-Waiting Chivalry and has to come to terms with a world that doesn't want him. King Shrewd, however, decides to train him as an assassin from an early age, and so begins young Fitz' journey into adulthood and the intrigues of the royal court. Book I works because Fitz is too young to understand half of what he's doing or to give any serious thought to it. He's learning to play a dangerous chess game against opponents who have far more experience, though usually less sense, than him. Therefore, we expect his failures to be on par with his victories, probably to surpass them even.
Book II suffers from trying to pull the same stunt twice to an older and more experienced Fitz. We tell ourselves Fitz would have learned from the ordeals in Book I, that he would try to forge his own identity, make his own decisions, be his own man for once. He doesn't. At no time did I feel him grow as a character, rather he was always complaining about how unfair life was to him, about what he wanted to do, never sparing a thought for others except occasionally and briefly. Fitz is always putting his urges, his desires, first, always at the expense of putting other people in danger. An assassin should know better.
So, yes, this turns Fitz into a selfish, little brat, but there's still worse to come. I've said it before and I'll say it again: heroes (and their entourage) needn't be stupid for villains to be smart. But this is what happens in Book II. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is dumb beyond the point of credulity, wielding feeble arguments to argue passivity. Of course, this only makes Fitz' character even dumber for going along with it all. Treason is brewing in the royal court and everyone seems to believe inaction is the best remedy. Some even go so far as claiming it's their only choice, a ludicrous thought. Peasants, soldiers, lords, all are easily duped by a web of conspiracy that can be seen from light years away. Not one character makes a sensible choice throughout the length of Book II and the author has utterly failed to convince me about the reasons why.
I suppose what angers me the most is how the author manipulates hope to lure the reader in. Hope that Fitz will become his own man, hope that things will turn out okay, hope that somebody will have the sense to kill Regal once and for all and thus put an end to his far-fetched charade. With every turn of page, every chapter that gets consumed by the reader, things take a turn for the worse; each successive title forebodes another dark, depressing chapter, and the reader's hopes slowly, but surely, ebb away. It's an incredibly depressing book, not so much for the plot itself, but because of how unbelievably the characters act. The author seems intent on convincing you that two plus two equals five when you know it to be four.
I tried to convince myself Book III would be better. I checked the one-star reviews to prepare for the worst and was not disappointed. Everything I've read points to a long and pointless read that turns productive towards its bittersweet ending that seems more bitter than sweet. There's apparently another trilogy about Fitz' exploits that tries to tie some, if not all, of the plot holes of the Farseer Trilogy, but I presently feel too deceived by this trilogy to entertain the notion of beginning another one, with the same dumb protagonist and written by the same author.
Originally, I gave this a two-star rating out of pity, more than anything else, but then "Rule of Two" came to mind. I gave that one a one-star rating on the basis of its incredible -in the true sense of the word- plot, but I think "Royal Assassin" is the first book I've read that not only has a plot that doesn't hold water, of any kind, but it is also way too depressing going about it. At this point in time, I wish I could erase this book from memory, commit it to some deep, dark corner of my mind and leave it there for all eternity.
Some time in the distant future I may gather the will to read the end of this trilogy. Or perhaps not. But if there's something Robin Hobb has helped me discover is what kind of fantasy I enjoy and what kind I don't. I've discovered I don't enjoy the kind of fantasy that puts its main character through a constant stream of endless suffering that furthers no plot or character development. Suffering for the sake of suffering itself is pointless. Worse, it's bad writing or, in any event, it makes for bad reading.
To close this rather long rant I leave you with this: In my world of reading/writing I praise subtlety over brutality, cunning over stupidity, strong characters that react to circumstance rather than being manipulated by the author's desires. Every writer sets him or herself with an endgame. Some, in trying to organise their way through to it, lose perspective of their characters, wondering more about getting character X to do action Y and less about why character X should do action Y in the first place. I won't say whether this is right or wrong, but I've always valued the latter over the former. So, my advice, for whatever is worth, is this: build strong characters, set your pieces, and only then play the game. Who knows, maybe the game will take you in unforeseeable directions...
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Validates my decission of not continuing with this series after a so-so first book
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Good call, and the second Fitz trilogy is even worse, if what little I've read is any guidance. Is the "Sword of Truth" series any good? It's in my to-do list but I'm ever suspicious of long-running book series. I think I'll read "Corum" next.
Frankly, Sword of Truth started as a vanilla high fantasy, but I really liked how it evolved.Typicall formula where the young clueless character is really THE CHOSEN ONE and has to save the freaking world/worlds.
Had a few interesting twists and it's well written. I havent finished the series, and heard that the latest books are considerably crappier.
I've heard similar. I'm also planning on reading "A Song of Ice and Fire" and I'm hoping it's not as depressing as Farseer. The only highlight over the past weeks has been "Ender's Game" but I was disappointed to find that its sequel has nothing to do with the Bugger Wars. Bugger.
Ender 1 is cool...after that it gets philosophical and sucks. If you want GOOD sci-fi I've read plenty.Game of thrones is REALLY good, and very fashionable right now with the series and all. The last book dissapointed me, tough and I don't trust the author to ever end this correctly
I'm only halfway through this book and am frustrated beyond belief. You have eloquently stated my thoughts so far. I'll finish the book for my own personal reasons, but don't know that it's worth putting myself through the torture of the third book when there are so many good books out there I haven't yet read.@Andres: Really liked the second Ender book and am looking forward to reading more in that series. It is a bit philosophical, but interesting at least. The characters have believable motivation, unlike the Farseer Trilogy.
It really is a pity because I don't like leaving a trilogy unfinished (it also happened to me with Clarke's "A Time Odyssey"), but I don't think I'll be putting myself through Book 3 anytime soon (or ever). I commend you for your dedication, AA, and hope to read your own review soon.As for "Speaker for the Dead," it just seems too... predictable, and more than a bit preachy for my taste. Maybe I'll have another go at it to see if my initial impressions were correct or not.
It's interessting to so someone with a so different view.I can say I do understand your view on this and won't exactly deny it, but I think for me it's just that I don't expect to much from some books.
I like this trilogy so far (just finished the 2nd) it lets me escape from my daily life a bit ( it's not terrible at all I just like to move my thought to a different world when i'm done working )
As for Game of Thrones, I really do not like it.
The series was ok but couldn't hold me long because of the major skips and the annoying actors ( especially the dutch one god I disike her )
The books couldn't captivate me either, it was a drag for me to read them.
As for sword of truth. I own and have read them all.
The first book looks like it takes forever goodkind has a good way to drag parts on ( in a good way) he is exceptionally detailed in his writing.
The series only picks up after that, except for 1 book which although adds much to the story, is a more political book then fantasy. That one took me ages to finish.
The books get better again and the last 2 are not that bad but definitely not the best.
Then there is a spinoff called thelaw of nines which is different and ok, but not that satisfactory.
After that came the omen machine, which was too short
Then last month he release the pre-prequel "the first confessor" only in ebook form, and that was a classical goodkind book again.
As for recommendations.
Heroic fantasy, for i'd recommend David Gemmell the rigante series if you are in to that, but anything gemmell is worth it.
Brandon sanderson does a good job on the wheel of time but also on his other books, the mistborn series and the way of kings
The wheel of time is a good series, with the final book being done now and will be released in january of 2013
As a last not, good review, good argument points. Love to see more of these type of reviews on goodreads
Couldn't disagree more. Fitz doesn't kill Regal out of loyalty for his king, and faith that he knows what he's doing. It's REALISTIC that good doesn't necessarily triumph. When you use your power to kill and threaten people, you have a higher chance of coming out on top.You wanted a good ending? Good endings are predictable and cliche. I like the direction Hobb took with this book.
Darionanagi wrote: "Couldn't disagree more. Fitz doesn't kill Regal out of loyalty for his king, and faith that he knows what he's doing. It's REALISTIC that good doesn't necessarily triumph. When you use your power t..."Where in my review do I say I wanted a "good ending"? In fact, I didn't even say Fitz should kill Regal, only that it doesn't make sense nobody even tries.
You have read the review, haven't you?
I was referring to this paragraph:"I suppose what angers me the most is how the author manipulates hope to lure the reader in. Hope that Fitz will become his own man, hope that things will turn out okay, hope that somebody will have the sense to kill Regal once and for all and thus put an end to his far-fetched charade. With every turn of page, every chapter that gets consumed by the reader, things take a turn for the worse; each successive title forebodes another dark, depressing chapter, and the reader's hopes slowly, but surely, ebb away."
You're right, you didn't say it, but you implied it. You expected someone would have the sense to kill Regal? Shrewd loved him too much for that. Even after all he did, he was still his son.
And you were hoping for a better chapter towards the ending, so doesn't that mean you wanted a good ending? Something like that's impossible with a man like Regal in power.
So Shrewd is the only character in the book who would have cause to kill a man like Regal?A better chapter does not necessarily imply a good ending. I don't mind the villains winning, but I do mind when they do so at the expense of dumb characters and contrived storytelling.
No, but Shrewd is the one calling the shots on who dies and who doesn't in his castle.Why was the story contrived and dumb? Did you want Fitz to tell everyone the truth? It had already been established that him being a "wolfman" would make everyone despise him. What choice did he have?
Robin hobb has some of the best story telling. Sure she may not have some of the best world building, but she really lets u have a feel for Fitz and his continuing struggles through the series. As for him making the same mistakes in book 1 and again in 2 I ask what do u expect?? A perfect character like harry potter? I for one enjoyed reading the continuous err done by Fitz simply because it made me have a stronger connection to him.
