Karla (Mossy Love Grotto)'s Reviews > Wideacre
Wideacre (Wideacre, #1)
by Philippa Gregory (Goodreads Author)
by Philippa Gregory (Goodreads Author)
Karla (Mossy Love Grotto)'s review
bookshelves: historical-fiction, gothic, georgian-era, adultery, big-fat-epics, bring-your-big-girl-panties, cover-artists-ron-lesser, crimes-of-passion, cuz-sarah-feeds-my-habit, eras-18th-century, heroine-ball-buster, illegitimacy, incest, knickers-in-a-twist, recommended-to-me, philippa-gregory, characters-you-love-to-hate, for-lil-sis, 5-stars, keepers, family-sagas, eww-eww-ick-they-said, ebook, have-paper-copy-too, i-own-this, heas-are-for-wussies
Apr 19, 12
bookshelves: historical-fiction, gothic, georgian-era, adultery, big-fat-epics, bring-your-big-girl-panties, cover-artists-ron-lesser, crimes-of-passion, cuz-sarah-feeds-my-habit, eras-18th-century, heroine-ball-buster, illegitimacy, incest, knickers-in-a-twist, recommended-to-me, philippa-gregory, characters-you-love-to-hate, for-lil-sis, 5-stars, keepers, family-sagas, eww-eww-ick-they-said, ebook, have-paper-copy-too, i-own-this, heas-are-for-wussies
Recommended to Karla (Mossy Love Grotto) by:
Sarah
Read from April 08 to 18, 2012
I'm a reader who holds grudges. Disappoint me, and it's likely that an author will get cleaned off my shelves and dumped in the donation bin because if I try to read another title by them, the bad experience keeps lingering and trashes the current read. But Philippa Gregory has been the exception.
After two rather blah reads (A Respectable Trade and Fallen Skies, the latter which I will certainly re-attempt), this hefty saga was recommended to me by the awesome Sarah, whose similarly awesome review told me that I would most likely love the notorious Wideacre. Incest, depravity, murder, gloomy Gothic dysfunction, and a totally unlikable protagonist/antagonist? Sign me up!
Three times was the definite charm with Gregory. I'm hooked, and I will probably one day consider myself a fan. I loved it. This was the first book in a long, long while that I could say had me riveted from first page to the last. I can't think of any dull spots. It was gripping, turgid melodrama with the plot taking twists and turns that had me flipping pages and perched on the edge of my chair.
Sorry for using such lame clichés, but it was true. Could Beatrice become any more obsessed and amoral? Who else would fall under her dogged steamroller of psychoses? I had to keep reading and reading, and the ending.... What a grim climax it leaves to the imagination. It's left up to the reader, and their own feelings about Beatrice, as to how that little scene plays out when Beatrice meets her Maker (both the Divine and the Temporal one who started her on her path). It can be as merciful or merciless as one wishes. Do we get more details in the sequel?
I hope not, but at the same time I'm dying to know what Gregory thought up for one of the most memorable characters I've ever read.
Even though Beatrice is a very loathesome character, I found myself able to see things from her point of view, warped and void of morality as it was. She despises the prospect of being kicked out of her home and her land upon marriage, just because she's not male. Her feckless brother, Harry, has no feel for the earth and true traditions of Wideacre. All he knows, and cares about, are the perks of the position. But for what Wideacre is, Beatrice feels true kinship that becomes a demented fervor.
And, like that village so often quoted about, she has to destroy it in order to save it. The process is an inevitable, continual decline over the years. As Beatrice falls, so does Wideacre. Or was that blissful utopia of Nature only beautiful on the surface and it was the one rotten to the core? Was Beatrice the fertile soil that made Wideacre realize its destructive, soul-sucking potential?
Throughout the book, Beatrice refers to Wideacre in terms of a living thing, a thing with a heart, a pulse, and a soul that only she can sense and communicate with. It's a symbiotic, parasitic relationship, evoking the best Beatrice has to offer while at the same time consuming it and leaving nothing but the husk of a mad woman with absolutely no scruples or morals.
One can be squicked by the incest and never venture into the water, but there is plenty going on under the surface.
I loved Gregory's writing. Beatrice's voice is so cold and selfish all the while she insists she's giving up everything, including her soul, for Wideacre. She's a total sociopath, and it really took me by surprise how much I still wanted to read about her when I've wanted to tear books in half because of heroes and heroines that did much, much less. Since the story is told from Beatrice's point of view, we watch her mental gears turn and crash as she frantically justifies her actions to herself and the reader, as her entire world is seen through her twisted little mind.
Brilliant and engrossing. Meaty gothic melodrama the way I love it, and I haven't been so absorbed by a dark, demented family since Marilyn Harris' Eden series. Like Beatrice, the anti-hero Thomas Eden and his grandson John Murrey Eden were formed by long aristocratic traditions, a remote and self-contained world, and a desire to control absolutely everyone and everything in their lives. Wideacre is a natural companion piece to Harris' morbid, melodramatic saga.
After two rather blah reads (A Respectable Trade and Fallen Skies, the latter which I will certainly re-attempt), this hefty saga was recommended to me by the awesome Sarah, whose similarly awesome review told me that I would most likely love the notorious Wideacre. Incest, depravity, murder, gloomy Gothic dysfunction, and a totally unlikable protagonist/antagonist? Sign me up!
Three times was the definite charm with Gregory. I'm hooked, and I will probably one day consider myself a fan. I loved it. This was the first book in a long, long while that I could say had me riveted from first page to the last. I can't think of any dull spots. It was gripping, turgid melodrama with the plot taking twists and turns that had me flipping pages and perched on the edge of my chair.
Sorry for using such lame clichés, but it was true. Could Beatrice become any more obsessed and amoral? Who else would fall under her dogged steamroller of psychoses? I had to keep reading and reading, and the ending.... What a grim climax it leaves to the imagination. It's left up to the reader, and their own feelings about Beatrice, as to how that little scene plays out when Beatrice meets her Maker (both the Divine and the Temporal one who started her on her path). It can be as merciful or merciless as one wishes. Do we get more details in the sequel?
I hope not, but at the same time I'm dying to know what Gregory thought up for one of the most memorable characters I've ever read.
Even though Beatrice is a very loathesome character, I found myself able to see things from her point of view, warped and void of morality as it was. She despises the prospect of being kicked out of her home and her land upon marriage, just because she's not male. Her feckless brother, Harry, has no feel for the earth and true traditions of Wideacre. All he knows, and cares about, are the perks of the position. But for what Wideacre is, Beatrice feels true kinship that becomes a demented fervor.
And, like that village so often quoted about, she has to destroy it in order to save it. The process is an inevitable, continual decline over the years. As Beatrice falls, so does Wideacre. Or was that blissful utopia of Nature only beautiful on the surface and it was the one rotten to the core? Was Beatrice the fertile soil that made Wideacre realize its destructive, soul-sucking potential?
Throughout the book, Beatrice refers to Wideacre in terms of a living thing, a thing with a heart, a pulse, and a soul that only she can sense and communicate with. It's a symbiotic, parasitic relationship, evoking the best Beatrice has to offer while at the same time consuming it and leaving nothing but the husk of a mad woman with absolutely no scruples or morals.
One can be squicked by the incest and never venture into the water, but there is plenty going on under the surface.
I loved Gregory's writing. Beatrice's voice is so cold and selfish all the while she insists she's giving up everything, including her soul, for Wideacre. She's a total sociopath, and it really took me by surprise how much I still wanted to read about her when I've wanted to tear books in half because of heroes and heroines that did much, much less. Since the story is told from Beatrice's point of view, we watch her mental gears turn and crash as she frantically justifies her actions to herself and the reader, as her entire world is seen through her twisted little mind.
Brilliant and engrossing. Meaty gothic melodrama the way I love it, and I haven't been so absorbed by a dark, demented family since Marilyn Harris' Eden series. Like Beatrice, the anti-hero Thomas Eden and his grandson John Murrey Eden were formed by long aristocratic traditions, a remote and self-contained world, and a desire to control absolutely everyone and everything in their lives. Wideacre is a natural companion piece to Harris' morbid, melodramatic saga.
Sign into Goodreads to see if any of your friends have read Wideacre.
sign in »
Reading Progress
| 04/09/2012 | page 80 |
|
13.0% | "I love how the innocent concept of loving the land and finding "all you need" in one place is the springboard for sociopathic WTFery." |
| 04/11/2012 | page 145 |
|
23.0% |
"At last, at last I had Wideacre and the master. *shivers* " 2 comments |
| 04/12/2012 | page 230 |
|
36.0% | "The dee-lish-us WTFery continues apace with a little bundle of incesty joy making its way into Beatrice's crazy world of her own making." 3 comments |
| 04/13/2012 | page 271 |
|
42.0% | "*sigh* I probably shouldn't get too attached to that handsome Scottish doctor who will no doubt end up grist for Beatrice's mill. :(" |
| 04/15/2012 | page 330 |
|
52.0% | "Bastard Inbred Baby #2 arrives. :P" |
| 04/15/2012 | page 420 |
|
66.0% | "I know Celia's little victory over Beatrice is going to be woefully short-lived, but for the moment...yay!" |
| 04/16/2012 | page 459 |
|
72.0% | "Beatrice's ruthless, cocksure attitude that everything will go as she wants (simply because she wills it) is reminding me so much of John Murrey Eden. But I highly doubt there's any redemption in store for good ol' Beatrice." 9 comments |
| 04/18/2012 | page 550 |
|
86.0% | ""The patch of ground outside the church wall has two heaps of stone there now," she said. "Old Giles...and Beatrice Fosdyke. We have a graveyard for suicides now. They are calling the suicides' graveyard 'Miss Beatrice's corner'."" 2 comments |
| 04/18/2012 | page 640 |
|
100.0% | "Wow, that was a thrillingly f#@king awesome book. O__O" |
Comments (showing 1-32 of 32) (32 new)
date
newest »
newest »
message 1:
by
Sarah
(new)
-
rated it 5 stars
Apr 08, 2012 10:39pm
Yay! :D Enjoy the pervy sibling incest & general WTFery.
reply
|
flag
*
I already am! Wow, if I was on vacation I'd have this done in 2 days. It's awesome!What I love most so far is that the simple & innocent concept of "love of the land" is the springboard for turning it into a perverted world outside all of society's norms. Definitely gothic. :D And Beatrice is a total sociopath. Her voice is chilling.
I love the way she presents her psychoses like everyone should recognize them as perfectly ordinary concerns. :D
That's how I discern whether or not a writer has credibility--if the dialogue reads like a child molester test toy. lol Holy randomness.
Aye, I had been there, on the tree trunk spanning the river. My lips had met his. I had said, "Accident" and "It would work," but I had not known it would be like this. I had agreed. But I had not known what I was setting in motion. Ralph had known. Ralph had knifed deer, skinned hares, hand-chopped rabbits. Ralph knew all about death and he invited my consent to his dark plots, while I was a mere child. I had not known. I had not understood. And when I had, it was too late. It was not my fault.Little sociopath. O__o
message 11:
by
Karla (Mossy Love Grotto)
(last edited Apr 12, 2012 05:05am)
(new)
-
rated it 5 stars
I can't wait to see if Ralph shows up again. She's already driving herself crazy (er, more than usual) thinking he's stalking her. What she did to him was just a tad nasty. Mwahahaha.This is awesome stuff. :D
Oooh, just thought of something. When Beatrice hears about Mr. Wooler and his plot to gather a bunch of guys together to sell their wheat in a market way distant from their lands, I loved how she came down against his cutthroat maneuver because it would mean that his tenants would starve without the wheat in the local market and would negatively impact his home/livelihood/labor force in the long run even though there would be a monetary profit. She said she would never do such a thing. Sounds so nice on the surface, but if doing such a thing would benefit Wideacre in any way, she wouldn't care who starved. :DGotta love her.
message 14:
by
Karla (Mossy Love Grotto)
(last edited Apr 12, 2012 09:59am)
(new)
-
rated it 5 stars
LOL I haven't read that one yet, but I want to. It has to be better than the movie, which I thought was real lame. :-\
message 18:
by
Karla (Mossy Love Grotto)
(last edited Apr 19, 2012 05:21am)
(new)
-
rated it 5 stars
You bet! That ending....phew! I think it was AWESOME that we don't know (view spoiler) The imagination runs riot about what was done. I'd like to think that there was some ironic nastiness that went on, like (view spoiler) or something equally gruesome. Ooooh, or maybe (view spoiler) OMG, I'm so sick. :DMaybe Book 2 will give us some details, but after thinking up this stuff, I think actually knowing would take the fun out of it.
Great review Karla! Its nice when a book grabs you like that,I didnt enjoy the other two you mentioned either,but have enjoyed her other books.
Mermarie wrote: "Gloomy Gothic dysfunction... say no more, madame! :D"There is no finer reading experience than Gloomy Gothic Dysfunction. :D
I completely agree with you. I love this book. Beatrice's lust and want for the land really brings me to seeing it from her point of view. The author writes it so well. When i was reading it, I found myself agreeing with Beatrice most of the time even though her actions were so twisted and sick I found myself thinking that widacre was worth it. I can only put that down to the way it was written. Fantastic! You should read 'The Wise Woman' its quite similar in a sense that the heroin finds herself trapped and goes to extreme lengths to try and get what she wants. Although it is quite different as in this book the heroin lives in world ruled completely by men and she is not as much in control as Beatrice is in 'Wideacre'. This difference makes it quite scary at times. All very exciting!
I've read the description for The Wise Woman and it's high on my TBR because it sounded like it was in the vein of Wideacre.The writing here was definitely fantastic! Beatrice was such a character I loved to hate and yet rooted for. :D
Yeah, I have The Wise Woman on my TBR short-stack too. I love historical fiction that isn't afraid to have a less-than-perfect hero/heroine & dares the readers to like him/her even in the midst of their craziness. :D
Completely on your side with all of this! So glad I joined this site haha. It's good to know I'm not a total loon myself for rooting for Beatrice. Definitely read 'The Wise Woman'. That book is an emotional roller coaster.
Lisa, you might be interested in the book Sarah & I are reading now: This Is The House by Deborah Hill. The heroine is a good-hearted marital mercenary, if that makes any sense. Definitely an interesting character so far.
Lisa wrote: "Completely on your side with all of this! So glad I joined this site haha. It's good to know I'm not a total loon myself for rooting for Beatrice. Definitely read 'The Wise Woman'. That book is a..."
I'll probably read The Wise Woman before I gather the gumption to dive into Meridon. *nod* After the wrenching trauma that was Richard in The Favored Child, I need a Wideacre hiatus. Haha.
Karla, thank you i'll add it to my TBR shelf. It might take me a while to get to though. My english tutor just set me the task of reading 'The Great Gatsby' and a friend of mine is majorly into erotic literature and has given me two books to read. I must admit i'm a little afraid. :P Sarah, I haven't gotten around to buying the other books in the trilogy. Oh dear poor Richard. Interesting that he suffers the trauma. The way Wideacre ended with Julia looking towards the remains of Wideacre Hall 'as if it were lovely to her' gave me the impression that she would, in some way, become the 'new Beatrice' so to speak. I might have to bump the favoured child up my TBR list. I'm afraid i'm hooked.



