Vinaya's Reviews > Wither
Wither (The Chemical Garden, #1)
by Lauren DeStefano (Goodreads Author)
by Lauren DeStefano (Goodreads Author)
Vinaya's review
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Mar 16, 11
bookshelves: arc-galley, books-i-loved, dystopian-fiction, favorites, the-real-5-star-deal, ya-fantasy, hmm-that-was-interesting
Read on March 15, 2011
My grandmother was twelve when she got married. Fourteen when she gave birth to her first child. By the time she was thirty, she had given birth to seven children.
I'm telling you this to give you a little perspective on where I'm coming from. A culture where child brides are not so far in the past that we can't see their faces. A social order where things we can't imagine today were not only accepted, but natural. Indian mythology is filled with stories of polygamy — a king with three wives, a queen with five husbands. These are the stories I grew up with, ingrained seamlessly into my culture. This may be why some of the things that disturb people about Wither don't seem quite as unnatural and unbelievable to me.
Ideally, I should give Wither four stars. The world building pretty much sucks, to be honest. There is a token acknowledgement of a debilitating virus, one that kills all the young women at the age of twenty, and young men at the age of twenty four. I'm always unconvinced by age-determined viruses, especially when they are so specific. Can you think of one, just one disease we have right now that would attack at person at a specific age? With no variables? I can't either, and that is the first point at which the world building falls short.
The second is the complete lack of detail that goes into building this dystopian society. There are very many, many descriptions of the dresses and the house and the holograms, but none whatsoever of the real world outside the privileged set that Rhine is introduced to. When you're building an alternate universe, you have envision every aspect of it. If only a section of North America is left unsubmerged (which is pretty unconvincing in and of itself) then would an industrialized society such as the one described in Wither still work? Where are the crops grown? Where are the raw materials processed? In the absence of most of the world's population, where are they finding the labour for even the bare necessities, let alone house constructions and clothing manufacture and soap opera production? If all the children in this world are dying young, where are they finding the time and guidance to learn skilled trades that would keep all of the technology functioning? Where is the religion? If there's one thing that comes to the fore at the edge of the world's destruction, it's religion. Too many questions that are left conveniently unanswered.
But I am willing to forgive the flaws in the world building (as I did in A Long, Long Sleep) because of the sheer beauty of the writing. If there's one thing that can suck me in and hold me captive, it's beautiful prose. And Lauren De Stefano's prose is world class. What really caught me about this book was the human element. It just happens with some characters, you know? They're not just interesting, they're almost real. And with Wither, that didn't happen with just one character, but almost all of them! I found myself connecting, really connecting, on a level deeper than words, with all of the wounded, desperate people in this story.
The story is complex and saturated with emotion. It is the emotion that throbs behind every sentence that really gives this book its character. The plot unfolds beautifully, and Rhine is the perfect central character, smart and tough, but also so very vulnerable. When she is first stolen and sold as a bride to a House Governor, she is full of anger and pain. She is determined to hate her husband, the cause of so much misery and death. Her only goal is escape, her beacon the freedom to live her short life and die in a place and a life of her choosing. This ambition shapes her actions throughout the book, but it doesn't make her a single dimensional character. She begins to develop feelings for one of the servants sold into captivity; she forms a bond with her sister-wives; she even slowly begins to understand and care for her husband, so hapless and oblivious.
And Linden. Linden just broke my heart. I've read some reviews that talk about his lack of spine, but to me, Linden was never a weak character. He's one of the most powerful ones in the story, in fact. In the beginning, I was inclined to hate him, much as Rhine did. But DeStefano pulled the rug out from under my feet. He's such a mixture of affection and dependency and naïveté. He is as much a victim of circumstance and manipulation as any of the sister-wives, a fact that only slowly becomes obvious to the reader and to Rhine. Here's what I admired about DeStefano's writing: she made me like Linden before she revealed his ignorance about the death and destruction surrounding the world around him. I felt almost schizophrenic towards the end of the book, with one half of my mind urging Rhine towards choice and freedom, and the other half urging her to stay, just for Linden.
Rhine's bond with her sister-wives is also a huge plus point for this book. From initial distance and distrust, she slowly begins to form a bond with them, to truly become their sister. Even with Rose, the first wife who dies before her marriage, she manages to form a sympathetic relationship. She cares deeply about Jenna, the withdrawn, tortured recluse and Cecily, the child trembling on the brink of adulthood and too blind to see what she's missing. The subtle loss of Cecily's childhood and her ignorance of its value was especially chilling and beautifully drawn.
I like the fact that DeStefano realistically portrays Rhine's conflict between staying and going. Even as she acknowledges the lure of freedom, Rhine worries about her newfound family, and is seduced by the idea of living out her life in the comfort and solicitude of Linden's home.
Every character tugged a separate heartstring, from the little domestic Dierdre, to Gabriel, so very much in love and so very helpless to do anything about it. I'm glad the romance took a backseat in this story, without ever quite going away. It wasn't all desperate declarations of love and affirmations of undying passion. Instead it was one thread to add to all the other threads tangling together in Rhine's complicated life.
And over all of it was the shining theme of freedom, never really pushed in my face, but woven throughout the story. Every time Rhine is in danger of getting too complacent, she remembers what real freedom is, no matter how uncomfortable and painful achieving it may be. Rhine is a character I will remember for a long time, strong and courageous and pragmatic and dreamy and smart and vulnerable and so very real.
I'm not sure I would classify this book as YA. Lauren DeStefano's prose is solid and stately, complex and layered, with ideas and emotions that require a certain level of experience and maturity to resonate with a reader. But personally, this is a book that has found a place in my heart, and also taught me that dissing a book before trying it for myself is a Very Bad Idea.
Disclosure: An ARC of this book was provided to me by the publishers for review purposes. No external considerations affected this review.
I'm telling you this to give you a little perspective on where I'm coming from. A culture where child brides are not so far in the past that we can't see their faces. A social order where things we can't imagine today were not only accepted, but natural. Indian mythology is filled with stories of polygamy — a king with three wives, a queen with five husbands. These are the stories I grew up with, ingrained seamlessly into my culture. This may be why some of the things that disturb people about Wither don't seem quite as unnatural and unbelievable to me.
Ideally, I should give Wither four stars. The world building pretty much sucks, to be honest. There is a token acknowledgement of a debilitating virus, one that kills all the young women at the age of twenty, and young men at the age of twenty four. I'm always unconvinced by age-determined viruses, especially when they are so specific. Can you think of one, just one disease we have right now that would attack at person at a specific age? With no variables? I can't either, and that is the first point at which the world building falls short.
The second is the complete lack of detail that goes into building this dystopian society. There are very many, many descriptions of the dresses and the house and the holograms, but none whatsoever of the real world outside the privileged set that Rhine is introduced to. When you're building an alternate universe, you have envision every aspect of it. If only a section of North America is left unsubmerged (which is pretty unconvincing in and of itself) then would an industrialized society such as the one described in Wither still work? Where are the crops grown? Where are the raw materials processed? In the absence of most of the world's population, where are they finding the labour for even the bare necessities, let alone house constructions and clothing manufacture and soap opera production? If all the children in this world are dying young, where are they finding the time and guidance to learn skilled trades that would keep all of the technology functioning? Where is the religion? If there's one thing that comes to the fore at the edge of the world's destruction, it's religion. Too many questions that are left conveniently unanswered.
But I am willing to forgive the flaws in the world building (as I did in A Long, Long Sleep) because of the sheer beauty of the writing. If there's one thing that can suck me in and hold me captive, it's beautiful prose. And Lauren De Stefano's prose is world class. What really caught me about this book was the human element. It just happens with some characters, you know? They're not just interesting, they're almost real. And with Wither, that didn't happen with just one character, but almost all of them! I found myself connecting, really connecting, on a level deeper than words, with all of the wounded, desperate people in this story.
The story is complex and saturated with emotion. It is the emotion that throbs behind every sentence that really gives this book its character. The plot unfolds beautifully, and Rhine is the perfect central character, smart and tough, but also so very vulnerable. When she is first stolen and sold as a bride to a House Governor, she is full of anger and pain. She is determined to hate her husband, the cause of so much misery and death. Her only goal is escape, her beacon the freedom to live her short life and die in a place and a life of her choosing. This ambition shapes her actions throughout the book, but it doesn't make her a single dimensional character. She begins to develop feelings for one of the servants sold into captivity; she forms a bond with her sister-wives; she even slowly begins to understand and care for her husband, so hapless and oblivious.
And Linden. Linden just broke my heart. I've read some reviews that talk about his lack of spine, but to me, Linden was never a weak character. He's one of the most powerful ones in the story, in fact. In the beginning, I was inclined to hate him, much as Rhine did. But DeStefano pulled the rug out from under my feet. He's such a mixture of affection and dependency and naïveté. He is as much a victim of circumstance and manipulation as any of the sister-wives, a fact that only slowly becomes obvious to the reader and to Rhine. Here's what I admired about DeStefano's writing: she made me like Linden before she revealed his ignorance about the death and destruction surrounding the world around him. I felt almost schizophrenic towards the end of the book, with one half of my mind urging Rhine towards choice and freedom, and the other half urging her to stay, just for Linden.
Rhine's bond with her sister-wives is also a huge plus point for this book. From initial distance and distrust, she slowly begins to form a bond with them, to truly become their sister. Even with Rose, the first wife who dies before her marriage, she manages to form a sympathetic relationship. She cares deeply about Jenna, the withdrawn, tortured recluse and Cecily, the child trembling on the brink of adulthood and too blind to see what she's missing. The subtle loss of Cecily's childhood and her ignorance of its value was especially chilling and beautifully drawn.
I like the fact that DeStefano realistically portrays Rhine's conflict between staying and going. Even as she acknowledges the lure of freedom, Rhine worries about her newfound family, and is seduced by the idea of living out her life in the comfort and solicitude of Linden's home.
Every character tugged a separate heartstring, from the little domestic Dierdre, to Gabriel, so very much in love and so very helpless to do anything about it. I'm glad the romance took a backseat in this story, without ever quite going away. It wasn't all desperate declarations of love and affirmations of undying passion. Instead it was one thread to add to all the other threads tangling together in Rhine's complicated life.
And over all of it was the shining theme of freedom, never really pushed in my face, but woven throughout the story. Every time Rhine is in danger of getting too complacent, she remembers what real freedom is, no matter how uncomfortable and painful achieving it may be. Rhine is a character I will remember for a long time, strong and courageous and pragmatic and dreamy and smart and vulnerable and so very real.
I'm not sure I would classify this book as YA. Lauren DeStefano's prose is solid and stately, complex and layered, with ideas and emotions that require a certain level of experience and maturity to resonate with a reader. But personally, this is a book that has found a place in my heart, and also taught me that dissing a book before trying it for myself is a Very Bad Idea.
Disclosure: An ARC of this book was provided to me by the publishers for review purposes. No external considerations affected this review.
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20.0% | "Nothing's really happened yet, but I think I'm in love with DeStefano's prose!" 2 comments |
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69.0% | "Oh god! Sorry, everybody, but I'm in love with this book! Don't un-friend me, pleeease! ;-)" 4 comments |
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I feel like a pink elephant. The one that stands out and looks goofy in the middle of all those stately grey elephants. I really, really loved this book, and practically nobody else did! Thank god for Phoebe, my only companion in Wither-love! :)
Like Jillian, I'm surprised at the positive review! I haven't read this book yet, but a lot of people here have and usually they give it 3 stars. I can't wait to read it and see if it's as good as you say :)
I think this book, especially for adults, is a very subjective book. I would be very unwilling to recommend this book because I know that it's one of those books with themes that make a lot of people uncomfortable, and the flaws that I am willing to forgive, others wouldn't. But I almost didn't read this book because of all the negative reviews and I would have missed out on a book I loved, so I'd say try it for yourself! :)There are way too many 'book's in this comment!
Every time Rhine is in danger of getting too complacent, she remembers what real freedom is, no matter how uncomfortable and painful achieving it may be. Yes, beautifully stated--I loved that she had to keep reminding herself of what she lost and why she was there (Stockholm Syndrome, anyone?), because it's easy to be romanced by the surface qualities of her world if you forget that they murdered a bunch of people in the first few pages.
SO glad you liked this one, if only because it makes me feel less insane. ;)
Vinaya wrote: "I feel like a pink elephant. The one that stands out and looks goofy in the middle of all those stately grey elephants. I really, really loved this book, and practically nobody else did! Thank god ..."Nothing wrong with pink elephants. I usually don't like being a part of the gray crowd. :)
I disagree with nothing in your review except this: the character of Linden. I must be a harsh person since I cannot excuse naïveté and ignorance so easily. I didn't find him so much strong or moving as a character but rather pitiful -- much like how I felt towards Linton from Wuthering Heights. Rhine was able to be more forgiving towards Linden, but as a reader I just couldn't be. He didn't evoke sympathy but rather irritation inside of me. . .but I hope he will grow in the next two novels.
I guess for me the difference between Linden and Linton (huh, they sound similar! *thwacks self on head*) was in the conditioning. Linton chose to turn a blind eye, and be deliberately oblivious to the situation. Linden had been systematically lied to, and protected from the reality of things and conditioned to believe that he could not do the things that would make him a stronger, more independent person. I think he is in for a rude awakening in the next couple of books though! which I want NOW. Ugh.
Your reviews are always very passionate and detailed, and I love reading them :) I'm really, really excited about this book. March 22 can't come soon enough.
Your review was very thoughtful, so I don't think you need to apologize! I loved DeStefano's prose too, and the characters and how they interact; I think their relationships grow believably. The world-building was what made me nuts and you acknowledged the problems with it well. I think some people are able to overlook world-building issues for the sake of the character drama and still really enjoy the story. I wasn't, but I still feel that DeStefano shows a hell of a lot of promise as a writer.
I am really glad you enjoyed this. For me, it took a couple of days to digest where she was really going with this book and be able to love it fully.Her prose blew my mind, because the voice wasnt melodramatic at all and with all the craziness going on in this book, oh boy, just imagine if Lauren Oliver would have written this. It would have been oh, my mama don gone and let me, my daddy loves to do crack, sort of melodrama. I really really hate that.
Sure, the book has its flaws, but I thought the characters were so well portrayed, it was wonderful. I really hope more people like it and stop giving her lashing, and also understand that she could have easily just written about some crappy love triangle or gone the easy route like most dystopia are doing now.
Again, brilliant review. Let's recommend the book more.
I just to ask.....why are there polygamous marriages?If the men die at 25 it is logical that there are more men then woman (and they die at 20). So should there not be one men for more women and not one man on 4 women? :/
Actually, the polygamy seems to be largely restricted to the upper classes; also, the women don't really get a say in the polygamy, they're kidnapped and married off against their will. I think the idea is, the poorer people are too busy surviving to worry about marriage and procreation, whereas the upper classes, who have the resources to support several children, are trying to keep the human race alive long enough to find a cure.Also, even in today's world, in countries like India, the life expectancy for a man is higher than for a woman. That doesn't mean we have a shortage of women and go around being polyandrous!
Yeah...but it's just not logical.And I know all about polygamy.
My father is a politician.I have met at various symposiums more children that have multiple 'mothers' than I can count.
But,still...genetically speaking the men vs women is mostly in balance.The slight tip over for women is because they live longer then men (in the real world).
If we have a world where they do not...the scales are moved and the 5 years less is a big statistical disbalance that has to make the numbers around 3:1.
So...more men.
Having multiple children?Sure.Cool.But what if the rich have girls? A child has 50:50 chances to be girl/boy.
So...some rich people have girls.And some have to love their girls. So it is logical to assume for them to want their girls safe/happy. How can their girls be happy/safe if the first neighbours kid has 5 wives?
So either their girls should have 5 males or they should fight against it.
As you say males are tipping the scales with supremacy of men so we have an 2:3 divide for sure.
But the 1/3 of the 1/2 or in other words the 1/6 of the rich would be radical against male teens with multiple wives.
Or what ever!
I give up :)
I would like to read this. The concept of the polygamy/statutory doesn't bother me, especially in science fiction because I am looking for the uncomfortable and strange. I haven't read the book yet so I can't say so for myself, but I am intrigued...
umm... Maybe Amazon? I don't live in the US, so I'm not likely to be of much help, sorry! But I know Amazon has it in all formats, including Kindle.
This is such a great review. I love that Linden wasn't a bad guy--it added so many layers to the story. And the writing really was absolutely beautiful, which was an amazing surprise for me. Usually you see books--particularly YA books--that are successful because of great plots and characters--which are important! and Wither definitely has them--but the writing is lacking, and that wasn't the case here. Lauren is really an amazing talent.
Vinaya, simply because I stalk your reviews and find you brilliant, I'll be giving this book another shot for you. Hopefully I get past page 12 this time. ;-)
Wow, thanks Adam! :-) The books does start off very slowly, it's true; it takes a while to warm up to the characters, but once that happens, it just flies past! I hope you manage to get past page 12, too! :)
Good news. I've gotten past page 12! I have to work in a few hours but after sleeping the evening and entire night away (a rarity for me) I'm up early and devoting time to "Wither". The author is also doing a signing here in New York next week...I wonder if authors sign ARC's... ;-)
I'll keep you posted on my reading status!
Im frustrated but starting to gain shades of affection for some of the characters, maybe most especially Linden. KINDA strange, I think. He's not the highlighted victim character, but it's pretty easy to see that he's in a tough position himself if you have your eyes open. And he did love Rose - and I quite enjoyed her myself.
That is really funny because my grandmother married when she was 12 and by the time she was 30 she hsd given birth to 6 children.
I love your description of the way you felt about Linden because that's how I felt too. I almost wanted Rhine to stay with him as much as I wanted her to leave. I thought I was alone with that!
are u from india?i love your review and i m going to read this book as soon as i get my hands on it...
Vinaya a few months ago i read your review and right after i did i picked up wither and read it. I compleatly agree with you 100% on what you said about this book. So i thank you so much. And please keep writing reiews because you are very good at it. P.S. The second Fever i just finished my advanced copy and it was very good.
I think your cultural background added an interesting review. I appreciated the contrast of your view.
This is such a brilliant review, I can't thank you enough for showing some positivity towards this book, everyone else seems to hate it. Why?! I couldn't agree more with what you said about Linden, I found myself many times unable to choose who I prefer: Gabriel or Linden? I'm still not sure even now I've finished it. All I know is I cannot wait until the 2nd one, I desperately need to read it!
YES! Another person who liked "Wither". I started feeling like a ray of sunshine in a sea full of negativity. I honestly found the book to be intruiging and the writing was so beautiful that I, like you, ignored the lack of world building.And I was always for Gabriel but I was also conflicted on whether I wanted Rhine to leave or stay, just to help Linden (cause she did influence him to design again).
Can't wait for the next book!
I can't say I agree with the first half of your review, but the rest is spot on. Rhine knew nothing of the world but the walls that contained her, why should it be necessary for us to know? In that I feel Destefano's world building was acceptable. Upon this we disagree. But from that point in your review and on - exactly my feelings. You are a person after my own heart. I absolutely loved this book, and you are right, we are the black sheep, the ones that stand out amid a see of unbelievers. So many things within this book ring true, struggles for freedom, conflicts within our hearts, learning to love against our better judgement, the affirmation that home is never where you are but who you are. I believe, I feel very deeply, that this was a stunning and memorable novel. I have read the reviews of the people who did not like it, and I simply cannot agree. I believe these are the people who no longer read to read and be led away by a beautiful story, no, they have become the people who read a book for its consistency. In all honesty, this is shameful. Nothing is perfect, not even literature. In some ways I find that literature's imperfection is perfect in and of itself, in that its imperfection is a perfect replica of our imperfect lives. Forgive the repetitiveness, ha. But mostly I just wanted you to know how much I full-heartedly agree with you and back your standing in the novel. Beautiful review, I hope to read more from you in the future.




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