Good call, dropping the star. I would do the same, only Goodreads doesn't really have a "zero stars" option. So at the risk of looking like a copycat, I think it's time to update my review as well.

Yikes, good heads-up on that post. Makes me realize he's not super-smart, he's not especially deep, he's just kind of a guy who sees women as objects.

If only goodreads could allow you to give zero stars to a book. Like you I enjoyed the first half of the book although I felt as though most of it had already been covered in The Name of the Wind and the second half was a hell of a lot of waffle with nothing much happenning. Pretty much like his comparison of the hobbit and movie adaptation to a geek girl turned porn actress. Pure waffle.

you guys make me sad. you can't even understand the metaphor properly.

Oh, I understand the metaphor perfectly Crywolf, but the method of delivery for the metaphor is incredibly dull and unbelievably boring.

Geoffrey wrote: "Oh, I understand the metaphor perfectly Crywolf, but the method of delivery for the metaphor is incredibly dull and unbelievably boring."

it was mainly directed towards the others

It is possible to understand something and still dislike it.

So much negative energy here, seems like you all rage on Rothfuss cause he feels that the Lord Of The Rings movies does not sufficiently convey the true subtlety of the books(I must say I totally agree with him on that). BUT Referring to a BLOG POST, that has nothing to do with the book you are reviewing seriously discredit your review.


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Furthermore you have seriously misinterpreted the part of the book where Kvothe saves them from the fake Edma Ruh. There are many factors that play in here, and the things that are told in this chapter is so

The only thing I agree upon, is that the information acquired in the Felurian part, could have been gained by Kvothe in a more entertaining way.
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Rothfuss describes his books pretty well by defining them as: "huge tangled metafictional fantasy thingers". You want to remove the tangled part, which would reduce the plot to the level of most fantasy books aimed at ages 12 - 17. If that is what you are looking for, there are thousands of books out there for you. Although everyone has the right to write a review, I must take into account that your review is biased and you have trouble interpreting beyond that of a 7th grader.

To Daniel:

Not liking something is not the same as not understanding it.

Hello, Daniel! Please note that I wrote my original review last year after reading the book, and it's entirely intact -- I just put it under the spoiler tag. I didn't knock off a star and include that update at the top until last month (which probably would have happened regardless of what Rothfuss did or didn't say because my lingering feelings about the book were still overwhelmingly negative), so your last condescending bit about my review being "biased" doesn't hold water.

I do not have a problem with Rothfuss's opinion about the Lord of the Rings / Hobbit movies in itself -- in fact, when I was reading that post, I actually agreed with him! I read The Hobbit recently and thought its transformation into a cinematic adaptation would lose some of its comfortable, homey feel. However, I had a massive problem with his choice of metaphor and its implications. If you feel like going into the comments on the original post and reading them, Kalbear and a few others wrote some great rebuttals.

I did not write this review in the beginning with negative energy towards Rothfuss himself; I didn't like the book, but I still liked him as a person. His blog made me laugh a lot, and I even donated to Worldbuilders. However, I found this comparison incredibly distasteful, and coupled with the way women are written in his books, it made me re-evaluate my opinion of him. It was disappointing to see from a self-proclaimed feminist. (My original post-blog comment at the top was much angrier, but I have since toned it down -- how ironic that the disagreeing comments come in afterwards, heh. Perhaps I made it less clear?)

I would love a "huge tangled metafictional fantasy thinger" -- it's part of why I enjoyed the first book so much. I am still somewhat curious about the next book, because there is a part of me that hopes that he was playing up Kvothe as an unreliable narrator, and that maybe there was a reason he was annoying and it'll have real consequences in the third one. However, this particular installment fell flat for me, and I don't think that description necessarily excuses the problems I had with the book.

Thank you Valerie. If i am ever without a good book I will simply draw from any of your massive problems.

I think maybe that was supposed to be a zinger, but it's hard to tell.


oh, snap.....? Or maybe not.

I was going to give him a reading list but yeah, that actually made no sense.

This sucks. I barely made it through the name of the Wind with 3 stars. However, I decided to cut Rothfuss some slack I mean, it was his first book and it was fine as far as first books go, but surely, I thought, the second one must be better! The characters will stop being whiney children reminiscent of a Y.A. book. So, against my better judgement I downloaded the massive volume unto my kindle, where it has been idly waiting for the past 3 months. I just couldn't bring myself to start it because come in its 900 pages! And to be honest, TNOTW wasn't that much of a fast read, so let's just say I had my misgivings regardeing TWMF. Which is why I logged on to GR looking for some encouraging reviews and ratings. But damn it, yours is the 4th -ve review I stumbled upon and they all confirm my doubts. I'm really averse to deleting books I've bought without reading but do I really want to put myself through 900 fucking pages of this?!

Eeeeek. I'm not sure how much you'd like this if you struggled with even the first one, but ultimately, it's up to you. A lot of people do love it!

Eric wrote: "I agree with pretty much everything in your review. The first half is fun, though it is basically copy and paste from the first book, but the second half... good god, what the hell happened there?..."
I empathize with you eric. To think that these books are far greater than anything you will ever write must bruise your petty ego. No wonder you hate them so much. Have a nice day.

jhon wrote: "Eric wrote: "I agree with pretty much everything in your review. The first half is fun, though it is basically copy and paste from the first book, but the second half... good god, what the hell ha..."
Wow,John or jhon???, everyone has their opinion and I find it rather sad that you think that everyone must share the same opinion as you.

Good luck out there - there are billions of people who don't think like you. It's gonna be rough!!

Eric wrote: "Why would I EVER be jealous of someone who treats other people like garbage and spent the entire time staring at my female companion's chest and making crude comments that nearly got him slapped?"

Holy shit.

"Eric wrote: "Why would I EVER be jealous of someone who treats other people like garbage and spent the entire time staring at my female companion's chest and making crude comments that nearly got him slapped?"

But but but he's a feminist! He wouldn't do that! /sarcasm.

Seriously, though? Really? Like Valerie said, holy shit. My opinion of (I almost said "respect for," but no) this guy keeps dropping.

As for the "ur just jealus!" thing...gosh, I thought we were talking about Eragon for a moment there. Now that takes me back.

O.O, That's it, I'm removing this book from my TBR and removing it from my kindle. It's been bothering me just sitting there, unread and taunting me, I can't take it anymore. I'm taking a stand against this book!

"Eric wrote: "Why would I EVER be jealous of someone who treats other people like garbage and spent the entire time staring at my female companion's chest and making crude comments that nearly got him slapped?"

I can hardly say that I am surprised after A Wise Man's Fear and his blog.

Um. Wow. Have you considered contacting the EFF?

Ah, I see anecdote now equals fact, not posturing self-assurance.

Eric wrote: "Just because you liked a book does not mean the author is a good person, or anything that anyone has said about him that is unflattering is a lie. In my personal experience, Patrick Rothfuss is ki..."

Apologies if my comment seemed to specifically jab at you, it was more a jab at the same old haters seeing your account and proclaiming "I knew he was a dick." Hence the self-assurance being on their part not yours. I can now see in a more awake state that the wording of my comment is somewhat questionable in that regard. I have no idea if your story is true one way or another, therefore I cannot refute it, and merely point out that from my perspective it is an unconfirmed anecdote. The whole camp of people making ad hominem attacks based on the infamous blog post just sicken me little as they do not exactly have a place on a book review site.
So in short, sorry for the jab it was intended for other targets, and I acknowledge your right to have your own opinion on the book and the man.
I also would like to point out that I understand a good book does not always a good man make, I just think that a single incident (or a misunderstood blog post) does not a bad man make.