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The Bad Beginning by Lemony Snicket

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Feb 25, 09

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Read in January, 2006

I am not a violent man. In my lifetime, I have never been in a fight. I've never seriously threatened anyone with violence, never made anyone feel afraid by my physical presence, never even really seriously considered doing violence to another person.

Having said that, the feelings this book evoked in me were... violent.

Not because Lemony Snicket has written a book where terribly unfortunate things happen to small children - I have no problems with that and in fact encourage it; it builds character. I want to do violence towards Lemony Snicket because he's a terrible writer who should never have been allowed to have his words put to paper. His pens should be broken, his notes burned, his hard drive wiped and, if possible, his writings should banned by an Act of Congress. The First Amendment can only go so far.

You may be wondering what has roused this level of bibliorage in me. By all accounts, this series is extremely popular, loved by many. On various book review websites, this book routinely gets at least four stars and high praise. It was even made into a movie starring Jim Carry, and if that's not the Seal of Public Approval then I don't know what is. It would seem that one of two things is true: Either I'm seriously overreacting to a tiny aspect of Snicket's (AKA Daniel Handler's) writing style or the rest of the world is full of blind ignoramuses who wouldn't know decent writing if they woke up in bed with it after a bender in Vegas.

As a reviewer, I, of course, choose to believe the latter.

Snicket has taken what should be an entertaining story, filled with untimely death, physical violence, extortion, deception, and pedophilic overtones, and corrupted it by treating its audience like a bunch of drooling idiots.

I am, of course, referring to his habit of defining "difficult" words within the text, with no regard for the flow of the story or the necessity of the definition. For example:

Page 2: "...occasionally their parents gave them permission to take a rickety trolley - the word 'rickety,' you probably know, here means 'unsteady' or 'likely to collapse' - alone to the seashore...."

Page 13: "...over a dull dinner of boiled chicken, boiled potatoes and blanched - the word 'blanched' here means 'boiled' - string beans."

Page 18: "'Please get out of bed and get dressed,' he said briskly. The word 'briskly' here means 'quickly, so as to get the Baudelaire children to leave the house.'"

Page 44: "...the kitchen grew cozy as the sauce simmered, a culinary term which means 'cooked over a low heat.'"

And so on.

There are a few occasions where a word is defined well, in context and occasionally in character, and I don't mind those. But the constant shoehorning in of definitions made me want to take a sharpened number two pencil and work it under Mr. Snicket's fingernails until he apologized sufficiently for being a hack.

I've gotten feedback from people who like this style, especially parents, who say that it saves them from having to put down the book and explain to the child what "blanched" means. Full disclosure: I am not a parent, nor am I likely to ever be one, but I think that teaching a child to figure things out for him or herself - or, god forbid, learn to use a dictionary - is part of what will make her or him grow up to be an inquisitive, intelligent adult. In my real job, teaching English as a foreign language, I find that my students are more likely to remember a word if I make them work for it, rather than if I just tell them what it means.

Let's face it - if this book is written for adults, then the author should treat his readers like adults. If the book is written for children, which this ostensibly is, then the author has to choose whether to talk up or down to them. In a book where the main characters' parents die before the first page and where the eldest daughter nearly becomes a child bride to her blood uncle, one would think the author has judged his audience mature enough to deal with these themes. If that's so, then overtly defining "difficult" words is an insult to his readers, and that is unacceptable to me.

I am reminded of a passage in Terry Pratchett's book, Wee Free Men, where the main character, a nine year old girl named Tiffany, asks an itinerant teacher about zoology:

"Zoology, eh? That's a big word, isn't it."

"No, actually it isn't," said Tiffany. "Patronizing is a big word. Zoology is really quite short."


I think Mr. Pratchett may have read Mr. Snicket's book as well.

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Comments (showing 1-50 of 135) (135 new)


James Norrington Dude, this review is too violent.


message 2: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la I rather agree with you... maybe not so much about the wrists and the nails and such, although you can do what you want obviously... but I thought these books very mundane... I got through...I don't even remember... I think I read 5 of them... But I had more of a problem with the plot lines of them all... they're EXACTLY the same! I was rather surprised I didn't stop reading sooner... but in all honesty, once you've read the first book you know exactly how the rest end up... seems rather pointless to me


rose dude that is some wierd shit!


message 4: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la Yeah, that's a good way to put it


Mallory Okay maybe not so violent, but other than that it's exactly how I feel.


message 6: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la Same here


Katie Umm... wow, intense. I personally see it as him being quirky and weird. It doesn't really have anything to do with telling you what words mean. It is to continue his random storytelling style. Seriously if you read the books you will realize that is just what he does. It is to add humor not to give you definitions for hard words. Read the back of the book (come on seriously the books are supposed to be the way they are, that is what makes them unique, he made up a fake name for himself) The other dark humor used throughout the story is obviously too mature so then you should be able to tell the definitions are there for literary purposes not tuturing ones.It is a style nothing else.


Mallory Well I personally don't like his style at all. But I know people who do, just not me.


message 9: by rose (last edited Jun 02, 2008 12:59pm) (new) - rated it 3 stars

rose hi


message 10: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la I agree with Katie. I don't mind the definitions much... just didn't ever finish the series because of the repetitive plot lines! But yeah, the definitions didn't bug me... His style's alright... though I've read better obviously, but it's not my favortie.


Mallory I agree with Kayla-la with the fact that the definitions weren't that bad, and I hated the repetitive plot lines as well. It's just not a book series that I like or enjoy reading and I'm just not going to waste my time on them.


message 12: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la Exactly, well said! :)

Oh, and Hi Rose


message 13: by Sara (new) - rated it 4 stars

Sara I agree with you, I think that Lemony Snicket was adding important information. Chris' review was inappropriate!


message 14: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la Well everyone's entitled to their own opinion
So whatever!


message 15: by Chris (new) - rated it 1 star

Chris I'd just like to step in here, while everyone's being nice and civil to each other... and since I can't figure out how to close this entry to comments before the first flame gets flung.

Thanks for sharing all your opinions about this, even the ones I disagree with. It seems that, from looking at the ratings this book has here, I am in the minority in finding it to be a hacked-together work of a condescending and generally unpleasant writer who should have been warded away from his first creative writing class in college by armed guards.

I can deal with that. I think my feelings on this book are crystal clear, and while I certainly appreciate that not everyone agrees with me, I am equally certain that I'm not going to change my mind on this one.

So, if you want to put up your thoughts just to have your voice heard, feel more than free to do so. If you want to challenge my opinion or tell me that I'm "wrong," then I recommend you do it by private message rather than clutter up the comments here. You still won't change my mind, but you can at least say you tried. The way Camus tells it, Sisyphus was a hero, and maybe you can be too.

Again, thanks for your thoughts and your civility.

- Chris


Olivia LMAO! I found your review to be pretty dead on. Only I suffered through most of the series because someone bought them for me. I felt so bad as I sold the boxset on E-Bay...not because they weren't in my house; that part felt great. I felt bad because someone else spent good money on bad books. The story had so much potential and it was ruined by the little things...and there were a crapload of bad little things.


message 17: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la Dang, don't you just hate it when people get you books you don't really want to read but you don't want to be mean and not read them? I hate that at least... Yeah exactly, if you're going to buy a book it should at least be good! Very true, very true!


Katie I didn't mean to say you were wrong. I was just trying to point out that it was a style. Because I enjoyed the story I wanted people to know that I think he meant to do it. I don't think he wanted to make you feel stupid. Some people don't like it and some people do. I personally did and you did not.


Katie Oh and I commend your advanced, well-used word choice. Very literate and well-placed.


message 20: by Halliwellsis93 (new)

Halliwellsis93 All righty. I have a comment. First of all the style of Lemony Snicket's writing is very different than most other authors and I can understand why people wouldn't like it, but I think that no matter how bad the book is that every person (yes, even horrible authors) deserve respect and you are not giving Mr.Snicket (aka Daniel Handler) enough credit. Yes, he does often explain words that might be obvious to a lot of people, but you have to remember that these books were written for younger kids and so that was a good way to teach them things, without them feeling like they are actually learning. I personally liked the stories although I was not satisfied with the books as I am more of a happy endings person. But whatever you feel about any book, I think that the way you expressed it was rude and entirely uncalled for.


Katie I agree with Halliwellsis93. These books are hard to place though. I think that he might have been partly trying to teach but also it is his style because I feel that some of the humor he used was far too advanced for someone who didn't know the meanings of the words. I also think your comment Chris was way too violent and pointless. You do sound educated in the way you put out your opinion but it could have been done differently.


message 22: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la I agree also, books do deserve respect. I mean, they must have SOMETHING special about them if they were put into print and distributed right?
Sure that something might not appeal to EVERYONE... but that's how books are, that's why there's billions of them written, so people can pick and choose the ones they like. so yeah!
And I must say, I find it very interesting to read everyone's opinions! :) So Thanks for keeping the "converstaion" going everyone!


Katie I know Kayla-la. It's sad but I get pretty excited when I have an email saying theres a new comment on this page. Thanks Chris for your controversial review!


Katie I know Kayla-la. It's sad but I get pretty excited when I have an email saying theres a new comment on this page. Thanks Chris for your controversial review!


Katie I know Kayla-la. It's sad but I get pretty excited when I have an email saying theres a new comment on this page. Thanks Chris for your controversial review!


Katie I know Kayla-la. It's sad but I get pretty excited when I have an email saying theres a new comment on this page. Thanks Chris for your controversial review!


Katie oops my computer is stupid sorry!


Katie oops my computer is really stupid! sorry!


message 29: by Kayla-la (new)

Kayla-la My thoughts exactly! :D
Thank you Chris!


Slaiman If you dont like the book dont read it , we dont need your complain , leave it for your self .




message 31: by Chance (new)

Chance you need to CHILL OUT. What is your problem? yeah, it might not be the best book, but you think a man should die because of the way he writes? If you do,you have some serious problems and you need help. I'm sorry, but if you think like that I don't know if you can even be fixed. If you read this the first thing you need to do is to go see a counselor of some kind.


Makenna can you feel the love?


Dacia I don't think Chris was actually threatening him. He was just illustrating his frustration.

I actually found the definitions mildly amusing, and the style, while quirky, was ok. It's not my favorite, but it does have it's moments.

The stories themselves, however, seriously stunk! I've only read two so far, and they were both really boring (and with identicle plot lines). That is on top of the fact that the author is makinig light of very tragic circumstances! I just don't think that joking about orphanhood is appropriate. If you try to actually empathize with the characters at all, you realize that they must be the shallowest, most heartless human beings alive! Otherwise, anyone enduring the (completely unrealistic) things they've been through wouldn't be going placidly on their way. They'd be in tattered pieces by now!


message 34: by Becky (new) - added it

Becky Chris, as always, I love reading your reviews. Funny, and well-written, and I'm with you on making the dang kids work for something rather than receive it on a silver platter.

(But then I'm not a parent either... Is there a trend occurring here?)

Anyway, this review gets a thumbs-up from me!


message 35: by Chris (new) - rated it 1 star

Chris Becky wrote: "Chris, as always, I love reading your reviews. Funny, and well-written, and I'm with you on making the dang kids work for something rather than receive it on a silver platter.

(But then I'm not..."



*smile* Many thanks, Becky....



message 36: by Liz (new) - rated it 3 stars

Liz hee hee. Bibliorage. Loved it.


message 37: by Vinson (last edited Dec 13, 2009 08:36pm) (new)

Vinson Your review was seething and amusing until you dropped all your undergarments by saying:

"I am not a parent, nor am I likely to ever be one."

I can't tell you the number of times I've read some bloated denunciation of a children's book by someone without any children and without any motivation to produce one/several. Would you expect to understand the original Tao Te Ching without knowing Chinese?

Have kids. Then we'll talk.

Fair disclosure: I like - not loved - these books, but object to your argument on the grounds that it doesn't see the book from the target market's perspective. Hating a book, because you weren't thought of in it's design, is bollocks. Appreciating it for someone you are not, is enlightened.


message 38: by Chris (last edited Dec 13, 2009 10:01pm) (new) - rated it 1 star

Chris Vinson wrote: "Your review was seething and amusing until you dropped all your undergarments by saying:

"I am not a parent, nor am I likely to ever be one."

I can't tell you the number of times I've read some b..."


While you do have a good point, I think it would be more appropriate if I were criticizing a book about child-rearing, rather than children's literature. If, having never had a child, I lambasted a book on parenting, then you'd be absolutely right to call me out on it. However, having read a great deal of fiction, for a wide range of ages, I think I have a fair handle on what's good and what's not (within reasonable biases, of course).

But I stand by my assessment on this - if I did have kids, I wouldn't let these in the house for any purpose other than kindling. I don't have to be Chinese to appreciate the Tao, or a Roman to appreciate Marcus Aurelius, because while I am not their target audience, I still know good writing when I see it. These books are not good writing.


Snooka L. I can't believe you gave it 1 star I loved this book. It was a great read.


Dacia As a parent, I cannot say that my parenthood has really changed any of my views on literature. While I'm not going to go as far as actually banning these books from my home, they aren't going to be something I actually offer to my son. Frankly, they are not entertaining. They're pretty bad kid-lit and I'd much rather him read something might actually instill a love of reading in him.


Kisholi Thanks for that, Chris. I will now proceed to stalk all your reviews.

I remember trying to read this book a long time ago because a friend said it would amuse my inherently grumpy/morbid personality. Whilst I am unable to recall my exact reaction, I know I didn't get past the first few chapters.

It is obvious that you don't need to have kids to decide whether a children's book is "good" or not. We've all been children once and surely have some memory of the type of stuff that resonated with us then?


Hannah You felt the book talked down to you, is that what you're saying? It insulted your intelligence?
This IS afterall a children's book.
I get sick of people bashing things when they're not even part of the audience it was aimed at. Just say its not for you, and good for you you're an adult. This guy never claimed to be a literary genius. He just wrote something for children. He's a free man, and if he wants to wipe himself on a sheet of copy paper and try to get it published its his own right and his own business after all. \


Dacia Geez Hannah, if we're all about people minding their own business, why does it matter to you WHAT Chris thinks?


message 44: by Amanda (last edited Feb 05, 2010 06:06am) (new)

Amanda Funny review Chris- don't change, no matter how many people say it's rude or 'threatening'- it's a great original review! i thought goodreads was here for everyone to express their opinion any way they wanted.

For the person who said 'if u don't like the book don't read it, we don't need your complain'(?)- what the hell, people aren't supposed to write a bad review for a book they've read that they didn't like? i know someone i'm sure, is going to say 'yes, they can express their views, but in a polite, non-violent way' HELLO-free speech, people!


message 45: by Kaitlyn (new) - added it

Kaitlyn Well Chris considering he fact that your an English major/grown man and I am just a child who is learning 7th grade English but I totally disagree with your conclusion. Apparently,you disagree with the audience that this book is trying to attract and I feel it's their best choice. Obviously this book isn't for 9 and down but the kid audience they are trying to get is 10 and up and being an English teacher yourself you fail to grasp this obvious point. Your opinion is your opinion and some of the flaws you pointed out did make sense but I have a comment.

Wishing that you can deprive him of his writing utensils and do bad things to him is not the right thing to do. Hoping to make his stories illegal is just ridiculous but I cease to say further more and think your comment over please but I feel you are smart man who knows alot about his work and I supports you shall look over and review your comments based off my comments and change and review you comment!

Thank you,

Kaitlyn Linehan


Molly Maldonado Chris wrote: "Vinson wrote: "Your review was seething and amusing until you dropped all your undergarments by saying:

"I am not a parent, nor am I likely to ever be one."

I can't tell you the number of times I..."


Chris,

As a teacher of the kids that these books were meant for, I can say that your review is mostly unfair in that you seem to have forgotten (or perhaps never quite understood) what most children are looking for in books. Also, I'm not sure that your assessment of how to best teach children vocabulary is correct. In fact, much research now goes against the old school "look it up" method and calls for more exposure within literature. The series of unfortunate events seems to use the same difficult words throughout the story, thus exposing children to said words enough that they understand it more than they would if they had looked it up. Lastly, his style is humorous and not at all meant to be taken seriously. In fact, if you take it seriously, you are only proving that you are not the intended audience at all. I think it would be helpful for readers and reviewers of books to consider the genre, intended audience, and author's purpose before slamming a book.

P.s. I too thought the plot was too repetitive and unpredictable, but it helped my students learn basic plot structure.

P.p.s. I'm also a big fan of freedom of speech and being honest about one's opinions, but I think it requires the speaker to also listen and be respectful.


Molly Maldonado Amanda wrote: "Funny review Chris- don't change, no matter how many people say it's rude or 'threatening'- it's a great original review! i thought goodreads was here for everyone to express their opinion any way ..."

For example, if I said "I hope you die for posting this message Amanda!" I would be free to say that, but it would be silly for at least two reasons: (1) you will be angry at me and probably not be at all persuaded to consider my point of view (2) it makes me appear to be childish, rude, and overly dramatic instead of intelligent, respectful, and objective. The use of "free speech!" as a cry to just say whatever you please without thinking about how the audience would perceive it is irresponsible and really makes all speech meaningless. In fact, let's all just start yelling ridiculous, rude, violent things at each other and call it free speech. I'm sure that's what the founding fathers had in mind.


message 48: by Amanda (new)

Amanda How could there truly be free speech if people didn't 'say whatever you please without thinking about how the audience would perceive it'? That would not be 'free' speech, that would be 'politically correct' speech. I respect that anyone can express themselves how they want, whether i agree or not and that is what i was standing up for. I think if u don't understand that 'free' speech is saying 'whatever you please' that's your issue not mine.


message 49: by Mark (new)

Mark Molly wrote: "Amanda wrote: "Funny review Chris- don't change, no matter how many people say it's rude or 'threatening'- it's a great original review! i thought goodreads was here for everyone to express their o..."

Although I agree with Chris's criticisms of the book, I must commend your response, Molly. There is way too much rude, crude and irresponsible speech in what I hesitate to call public discourse (which seems to give it way too much gravitas), wrapping itself in the mantle of free speech.


Fingerman you are obviously an over-grumpy person, who is violent because you have never been in a relationship and never will be.

About halfway through the review you state, "I will never have children." Duh! No woman would want to go through the making-of with you.


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