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Lyra's Oxford by Philip Pullman

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Jun 16, 07

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Read in January, 2006

I hate when authors don't know when to end something. His Dark Materials trilogy is OVER. We get that you're a sell-out, Philip Pullman (judging by the movie previews.. oh man).. just leave it alone. You wrote some great books. Now hush.

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Tortla I disagree.


message 2: by Paul (new)

Paul Pullman never intended Lyra's Oxford as an addition to the trilogy. It is in fact a collectible more than a book for HDM fans. You should have listened to the press releases before you bothered yourself with the book.


Shannon I'm a HDM fan and I don't consider it worthy of collecting.


Tortla uumm...the movie previews look awesome. This book was kind of lame. And kind of fantastic. It was lametastic.


Shannon I wrote that review before I saw the new movie preview, which, I agree, looks thoroughly awesome. Lametastic is a good way of describing it.


Shannon The movie was indeed lametastic, eh? Also I take back calling Pullman a sell-out b/c of a quote I read from him in which he basically admitted that he just wanted to get his moneys and then they could do whatever they wanted with he movie, he didn't really care. That's admirably honest.


message 7: by William (new)

William shannon, i'm terribly sorry if you did not realize this... but author write books to make a living... and so, if one of his books become a movie, it's not him selling out, it's him making money for the work he has done.


Shannon aww thanks for being terribly sorry!! that is adorable.

ps- look at my comment DIRECTLY above yours in which i took back calling him a sellout. now be quiet.


message 9: by Jim (new) - added it

Jim Hasson I can't stand readers who decide when a series is over.
If you've ever created something, you know that these characters float in your head for the rest of your life. New ideas, prose, situations are a constant.

Who the fuck are you to say something you had no part in creating is over?


Shannon I am Shannon! LOL! Happy Labor Day!!!!


Tortla BOOKS BELONG TO THEIR READERS (just ask John Green)


Shannon YES! tortla. how could i forget. i was just watching a video today where john green said "books belong to their readers". it is so true.

so, yes. that's who the fuck i am, jim. a reader of a book. who the fuck are YOU? (besides, obviously, a crotchety-comment-leaver).


message 13: by Tim (new) - added it

Tim Shannon
You are a bewilderment of inconsistencies! I think Jim Hasson was unwise to reduce this debate to the level of "Who the fuck do you think you are?"; but equally, you responded in kind. It seems that you believe that you have the right to post any comment that you feel like (which, of course, you do) but that you are unwilling to extend that right to other people - unless they agree with you. Unfortunately, I disagree with John Green. Whilst he is a good author and, by all accounts, a generally good guy, I think that his comment was trite and he was just being a suck-butt (probably to maintain his popularity amongst his fan base...) How can a book belong to the reader when every reader is going to see different things within the book? If the reader 'owns' the book, do they have the right to tell the author what he/she should write next or to tell them to re-write the parts of a book that they didn't like? However, in spite of all that, I admire that you were 'big' enough to withdraw your comment about Philip Pullman "selling out". I also agree with you about the film - it looked nice but as an adaptation of the book, it was seriously flawed!


message 14: by Shannon (last edited Apr 05, 2013 08:03pm) (new) - rated it 1 star

Shannon I fear my days of arguing with people on goodreads/defending 6 YEAR OLD reviews I wrote may be behind me, Tim. It's reached the point where it's like a religious/political argument on Facebook, which I see all the time but have made the (I believe) sound decision to not engage in.

That being said, fuck it, you were mostly coherent so I will respond as seriously as I am capable of being. First, I will respond snarkily to those who snark first at me; I consider that fair behavior. I'm not apologizing for that. And, re:comments, I don't see where I didn't "extend that right" to anyone. I did not delete the comments. What are you talking about? Also how can you tell that I respond well to people who agree with me? No one in these review comments (including my own sibling, thanks Tortla), agreed with me. It did not actually cause me any distress.

So, I agree with John Green's statement. You disagree. Okay, then.

To answer your question, no, "books belong to their readers" does not mean they have the "right" to tell the author what s/he should write. In my opinion. I think that's a simple way of looking at it. And yes, I know, my initial "review" (something I clearly put almost no effort into IT'S OK IF YOU NOTICED) made it sound like I was suggesting I could tell Pullman what to write. I was being facetious. I really did think that was obvious that it was not a real request. Pullman (an author I actually greatly admire) likely does not give a fuck what I think. Like John Green probably has 8,000 other things to worry about than the fact that you disagree with him. I'm just saying, it's probably not that "unfortunate".

Also, YOUR FACE IS A BEWILDERMENT OF INCONSISTENCIES.


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