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Dune by Frank Herbert

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Jan 29, 11

bookshelves: sci-fi, book-club, does-my-book-look-big-in-this, 2011-best-reads
Read from January 19 to 27, 2011


I've spent a few days hoping that my thoughts and feelings about Dune will solidify into one coherent and brilliant essay. There's a lot going on in the book, and there's been a lot going on in my life, so coherency might not be forthcoming.

Dune is intricate, at times confusing, allegorical and meticulously researched story. Even though I didn't fall in love with the characters, I fell in love with the book. It's easy to see how Dune is a classic, often imitated.

I loved this book, but at least one of my GR friends who I greatly respect hated this book. Which is fine, because, hey, we all have different tastes. (And thank Odin we've got diverse authors and genres for all types!) But I couldn't help ponder which attributes might make Dune so disliked. Sure, it's long, it's complicated, and has a pretty big cast of characters. And despite the Reverend Mothers and their power, the book has that overall masculine appeal - testosterone in overdrive. I don't mind that, but I can see how it could bother some readers.

But I think there might be other factors that would cause people to not just dislike, but really hate Dune. My hypothesis, (which I admit is most likely completely wrong, but I'll put it out there anyhow): Dune will only be loved by hard-core science fiction fans. I don't mean this in any derogatory way, since science fiction doesn't and can't appeal to all tastes. And that's quite all right by me.

A year ago, Jo Walton wrote about a concept that she attributes to Samuel R. Delany, specifically from his book The Jewel-Hinged Jaw: Notes on the Language of Science Fiction. The thesis is that science-fiction has it's own language and protocols. From Walton's essay:
"He then went on to say that one of the ways of approaching SF is to look at the way people read it—that those of us who read it have built up a set of skills for reading SF which let us enjoy it, where people who don’t have this approach to reading are left confused."

For SF fans, it's fun to read a story and not fully understand the language, the technology, the aliens, or what have you. And Dune is extremely challenging in this regard. The desert dwellers, the Fremen, have a culture that can be shocking and overly practical to us Earth-dwellers. There is a whole language and terminology invented, complete with a glossary included with the book. Herbert drops facts about a pre-history into the readers lap as if the reader already has knowledge of those events. It's a challenge to read, and not all readers would find those challenges "fun."

Other fun things in Dune: Huge sandworms! Blue eyeballs! "Do as she says, you wormfaced, crawling, sand-brained piece of lizard turd!" Prophesies! Water-reclamation technologies!

OK, now that I've thoroughly pissed off my non-sci-fi-loving friends, let's totally shift gears here. In my 40th Anniversary Edition, there is a afterword written by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, who has written many of the Dune sequels. Here's a few of the more fascinating revelations in his essay:
* "When he was a boy, eight of [Frank Herbert's] Irish Catholic aunts tried to force Catholocism on him, but he resisted. Instead, this became the genesis of the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood."
* Herbert researched over a 4-year period, 1957-1961, then wrote the book between 1961-1965. The book was rejected by all the major publishing houses, but was finally picked up by Chilton, the publisher of all those car-repair manuals.
* Sometimes Herbert would write passages first in poetry, before he expanded and converted them to prose.
* Herbert took some inspiration of the Paul Maud'dib character from Lawrence of Arabia - the outsider who helped lead a desert revolt in Turkey in WWI.

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Reading Progress

01/20/2011 page 92
15.0% "It's like learning a whole new language."
01/22/2011 page 219
36.0% "There have been a couple of scenes where I've got a death grip on the book because the action is so exciting." 2 comments
01/26/2011 page 517
85.0% 2 comments
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Jayme Noooooo waaaaaaay. How have you not read this yet?!


Cindy I have NO idea! It will be rectified next month, though.

There's a few other sci-fi 'classics' I've never read. I'm a little drunk with insomnia right now, so I'm going to embarrass myself by listing them:

-Stranger in a Strange Land
-Foundation Trilogy (I've tried twice, and never got very far, despite Asimov being one of my favorites.)
-Ender's Game (I've purposely avoided because of my personal distaste for Card.)
-Neuromancer
-Ringworld
-Gormenghast

Also I've never read anything by:
-Arthur C Clarke
-Edgar Rice Burroughs
-Jules Verne
-Octavia Butler

Pathetic, isn't it?


Jayme Nah, there's a few of those I've never read either. Like everything on your list after Ender's Game (which you should get over, cause it's amazing). But I have read Verne.


Cindy I wonder if I can find an Ender's Game trilogy or omnibus or something that would work for the floor joist challenge?

In 2011 I'm going to try to hit some of those big names above, so I can stop making embarrassing lists.


message 5: by Dree (new) - rated it 1 star

Dree I admit it. This is one of the worst books I have ever finished. I read it in a high school English class, and never have been a big fan of science fiction--even though my brother convinced me to try a few after the Dune disaster.


Cindy I saw your one-star review, Dree! Wow, it really rubbed you the wrong way. Did you ever see the movie?

I had lots of what are probably good books ruined for me by bad, bad teachers. Scarlet Letter and The Crucible are two. Dune is pretty unusual choice for high school, don't you think?


message 7: by Dree (new) - rated it 1 star

Dree My parents sure thought so, they felt it was too recent to be worth studying :) Most of the class loved it. The Moonstone was more my style, and was the same year.


Cindy Yeah. And Dune seems like the kind of book that might appeal more to the boys in high school. Not that girls won't like it, but there's nothing like enforced gender roles at that age. I applaud the teacher for going with sci-fi, but there has to be more accessible sci-fi out there. OTOH, The Moonstone is an awesome choice!

Of course, I'm spouting off and I haven't even read it yet! Haha.


Jayme When are you getting on with this already, Cindy?!


Cindy Jayme wrote: "When are you getting on with this already, Cindy?!"

Oh, the peer pressure! I started last night, and I'm really liking it so far.


Jayme That's awesome. You better love it. No pressure or anything.


message 12: by Brad (new) - rated it 4 stars

Brad Cool review, Cindy.


Jayme Awesome review, Cindy! Will you be reading any more of the Dune books?


Cindy Thanks Brad & Jayme. Definitely! I've already got the next two lined up, just itching for a spot in my TBR...


Jayme I didn't like them as much as the first, but up to book three I thought they were still worth it. I don't know about book four on, maybe not so worth it.


Cindy Yeah, I could picture that. Weren't the trilogy planned from the get-go, then Frank expanded that, then his son has done the rest? Or something?

We'll see... I'm not too big into series for some reason, but I'd love to see how Herbert Sr. wanted the story to play out.


Jayme Yeah, I think you're right about the trilogy, Cindy. Then he wrote a second trilogy and it wasn't as good, but I still read all the ones he wrote. You won't catch me reading any of his son's books though. I have issues with that.


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