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Looking for Alaska by John Green

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Sep 29, 10

bookshelves: friction, hipsteria, kiddie-lit
Read in September, 2010

A few months ago, I reviewed John Green's Paper Towns on here. I was disheartened by the clever distancing, the self-conscious cheekiness, the manic pixie dream girl paired with the bland narrator. I'd heard that Green's first book, Looking for Alaska, was similar, but better. That's very true.

There's this phrase I've read about that's used in Thailand, "same same, but different". I'd say that's the case with Paper Towns and Looking for Alaska. Superficially, they're pretty much the same books. Hell, thematically, they're pretty much the same books. Looking for Alaska manages to delve deeper, though--it's a much more meaningful exploration of the same themes.

Still, if you're not into clever distancing, self-conscious cheekiness, and manic pixie dream girls who are paired with bland narrators, this still might not completely win you over--I'm not sure it did, me.

Looking for Alaska is apparently semi-autobiographical. It's set at a bordering school that bears a striking resemblance to the school that Green attended. The narrator, Pudge, is, like Green, from Florida, and is into memorizing the last words of famous folks (a trope I found, like the use of literature in both this book and Paper Towns, not nearly as brilliant as I suspect I was supposed to). And mid-way through the novel, Alaska dies--this is not a spoiler; I am not spoiling; the back cover gives it away--in a manner quite like some of Green's classmates. Perhaps this is why the narrative is that much more convincing. For the most part, the setting rings true, and is quite vivid--and most of the characters ring true, too. They are much more people-ish than the characters of Paper Towns, who were more like caricatures than human beings. And there were a few scenes--for example, one where Alaska and Pudge explore the abandoned dorms during Thanksgiving, searching for porn--that hit very deep, indeed.

But when it comes down to it, I still don't really love stories like this: stories where better, more interesting girls exist only as a means to bring brilliance to the comparatively unbrilliant lives of unbrilliant boys, and especially stories where they have to martyr themselves to do so. Green's heroines resist this somewhat actively--Alaska is, supposedly, a feminist; she tells us as much, but it's never really reflected in any of her actions--but he still defaults to the manic pixie stereotypes over and over again. I honestly don't think this would bother me if I were younger. In fact, when I was younger, I found the idea of being some man's Marla or Clementine quite appealing. But now, as an adult, I find myself wanting to shake the Joels and the Pudges of the world by the shoulder and repeat to them Clementine's words, which are never, ever heeded: "Too many guys think I'm a concept, or I complete them, or I'm gonna make them alive. But I'm just a fucked-up girl who's lookin' for my own peace of mind; don't assign me yours." And I want to shake my head at the girl who I once was and tell her that taking a bit part in someone else's life is not nearly as romantic as these clever boy authors always make it seem.

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Julia Wiener Paper Towns was about debunking the manic pixie dream girl, as Q discovers she is a real person. I think you may have missed the point of that book a bit.


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Phoebe Julia wrote: "Paper Towns was about debunking the manic pixie dream girl, as Q discovers she is a real person. I think you may have missed the point of that book a bit."

That might be the stated theme, but I thought it was poorly executed since the girl in question is absent for almost the entirety of the book and serves as a motivating mystery for the main character rather than having a full personality and character arc herself. I know that it was intended as a deconstruction, but I think Green actually ended up just re-enacting the MPDG mythos again.


Julia Wiener Phoebe wrote: "Julia wrote: "Paper Towns was about debunking the manic pixie dream girl, as Q discovers she is a real person. I think you may have missed the point of that book a bit."

That might be the stated t..."


I never really thought of it that way, you're quite right. MPDG are mainly stated as something relating to the hero, be it their tragedy or their goal, and are not seen as real people. I had never actually considered Margo as a MPDG for Q, because I thought her rejection of his ideas at the end provided an almost harsh reality of her independence from his ideas of her, freeing her from the MPDG archetype. Whether this justifies her being used as a quest for Q, I really don't know.


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Phoebe Julia wrote: "I never really thought of it that way, you're quite right. MPDG are mainly stated as something relating to the hero, be it their tragedy or their goal, and are not seen as real people. I had never actually considered Margo as a MPDG for Q, because I thought her rejection of his ideas at the end provided an almost harsh reality of her independence from his ideas of her, freeing her from the MPDG archetype. Whether this justifies her being used as a quest for Q, I really don't know. "

Honestly, I might have felt that way if not for the romantic union at the end, which felt a bit like wish-fulfillment and sort of put the bow on the whole quest. The end might have a touch of bittersweetness, but Q still gets what he set out to get--so we have girl as motivating quest, girl as muse, girl as love interest. I suppose I just never got a sense that Margo was a real, live, breathing "girl," even if we're told that she is one.

Appreciate what Green was trying to do there, though, even if it didn't really work for me.


Julia Wiener Phoebe wrote: "Julia wrote: "I never really thought of it that way, you're quite right. MPDG are mainly stated as something relating to the hero, be it their tragedy or their goal, and are not seen as real people..."

Still, however strongly MPDG is a theme in this novel, nothing will ever top 500 Days of Summer for manic pixie dreamgirlifying and vilifying the girl when she doesn't comply with Mr Nice Guy TM's idea of her.


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Corrine Jackson Always love your thoughtful reviews, Phoebe. I just started this recently. Paper Towns was my first JG book, and I've since read WGWG. I struggled with the portrayal of women in PT and I'm sensing this dynamic in LFA. You put into words what bothered me. I knew that Margo in PT represented an ideal and then a shattered ideal, or a realization that people are masked by our own needs. Yet, I never liked Margo or felt like I knew her, and so the idealization didn't work and revealed things about my narrator that I was less empathetic with. Rather, I was less willing to share their quest and the end held no surprises. And I'm rambling.


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Phoebe Corrine wrote: "Always love your thoughtful reviews, Phoebe. I just started this recently. Paper Towns was my first JG book, and I've since read WGWG. I struggled with the portrayal of women in PT and I'm sensing ..."

Corrine, rambles are always welcome! (And congrats on your recent release!)

I'm glad this helped you pinpoint your problems. Have you read The Fault in Our Stars yet? Green still relies on the same dynamic, but since the gender is reversed, the portrayal of women is MUCH better. Might be worth a shot!


Collette personally I think that is John Greens whole point about Pudge. He didn't know her. he loved her but he didn't know her and it wasn't right for her to be his just because that's what he wanted. I think women are portrayed a bit badly in the eyes of the narrating men, yes, but John Green skillfully pointed out the flaws in their logic and actions


Lo♪ When I first read your review, I was in the middle of the book. I didn't like it too much and didn't even finish it (though I suspect it's mainly because I didn't yet know Alaska died), but now, looking back, I realize how true it is. This review perfectly captures how I felt about this book, and Paper Towns too. Nice job.


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Ema I agree about the Manic Pixie Dream Girl type. I do like how the other characters in the book point out to Miles that he's being an idiot when he's fantasizing unrealistically about her. But yeah I wish we got to know Alaska more ):


Giselle the reason why i think jake didn't show up to the funeral is that he didn't love her as much as she loved him. Alaska was down right in love with Jake but we as readers never hear about him professing his love for her. so that's what i assume.


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