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The Titan's Curse by Rick Riordan

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Feb 06, 13

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Read from September 15 to 18, 2010

Let me open by saying...Rick Riordan, I'm sorry for what I'm about to say. I'm an unpublished writer and I know the best I can hope for is that at some point some will like what I write, and some will well, rip it.

I've not been "real complimentary' of these books up to this point, I gave each 3 stars...said they were what I'd call, "not bad". I dropped this one to 2 stars...it's getting to "bad".

First, I must say apologetically that the writing isn't all that great. I know these have sold millions and we have the first movie in what I know a lot of people hope will be a series. I can't account for people's taste, I mean look at Gilligan's Island. Reading these books I must say that somewhere there's probably a toddler with a parent reading them to him/her who is thinking something like, "Percy is just now getting that? I figured it out 5 chapters ago". Percy Jackson is without a doubt as dense as a locust fence post. The kid is written so thick I'm surprised he can get his shoes on. I'd never have trusted this kid with a butter knife, much less a magic sword (of course luckily it won't hurt "mortals" only "immortals' as it's made of celestial bronze. This must be an odd kind of bronze as I know all bronze I've come in contact with is pretty much as solid as any other metal.).

Aside from the usual problem of Percy being so frustratingly (your going to see that word or it's root "frustrate" a few times in this review) thick this book manages to go to new heights in it's efforts to drive readers into banging their heads into walls. Without giving a spoiler, there is another regular character in the books who has been sort of the "counter-point" to Percy's inability to understand the most elementary event. Her character has been fairly well established. SO, to set up the action in this book the author has her do something so frustratingly (yes, there's the word) stupid and against character that I knew things weren't going to go well. Yes, I got what was supposed to be the reason in/for the act...but she'd never have acted so stupidly, not the girl we met in the first 2 books.

There are other problems here that were smaller in the first two books but apparently like wounds left untended have festered and are now overpowering the rest of the story. His playing fast and loose with history and myth are getting beyond my tolerance. He managed to turn Artemis the hunter into a sort of female Peter Pan and her huntresses into a girls club of "lost girls" instead of "lost boys" stuck at that age where little boys go "yuck girls" and little girls go "yuck boys". I could almost hear them singing...." I won't grow up, I won't grow up...I don't want to go to school, I don't want to go to school...." Need I say any more, maybe the story's take on Hercules? Maybe more of the incorrect slant given to the Greek Pantheon?

If ignorance was contagious or misinformation was infectious this book would be banned by the CDC.

I've been treating these books as YA books. They are so frustratingly simplistic I think I need to think of them more as juvenile level reads and go from there. I got them from the library and the next 2 are laying here (the second through the 5th came in together). Were I buying these I'd probably have stopped earlier, this one would bring me even closer to it. Were my kids still small and had they gotten into these I'd definitely go over anything they were picking up from them book by book.

On the positive side (I need to say something positive) the books do manage to show the pettiness and selfishness that was so prevalent in the character of the deities and heroes of Greek myth. It fails in filling that out, but it is there.

I live in hope that the next book won't frustrate me as badly as this one has. "Where there's life there's hope" as the old saying goes...and I keep hoping. I'll drop this volume to 2 stars and hope the next is better.

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message 1: by Aubrey (new)

Aubrey I've read the first in this series and have considered whether the rest is worth the time. Thanks for clearing that question up for me :) I might get to it at some point but for now there are so many other books to read.


Mike (the Paladin) I got them the public library....in audio. I've started putting them on when I lay down at night, but it may not be the best strategy. I tend to get so aggravated at times I don't get sleepy. :)


message 3: by Shaquille (last edited Jan 02, 2011 09:10pm) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shaquille Jenkins You might have found it "frustratingly simplistic" because the the book is actually geared more towards the views of young children and teenagers. I actually thought the book was amazing. The fast pace is what keeps kids more interested as to not find it dull or boring. I do agree however that Percy does seem a bit thick sometimes, relying mostly on his friends (especially Annabeth) to figure things out.


message 4: by Mike (the Paladin) (last edited Jan 02, 2011 10:31pm) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mike (the Paladin) Well, I've read a lot of YA and juvenile books. I've raised 2 children and read to them often and read a lot of the books they read (I started Harry Potter when my oldest did and read each as it came out like she did. She of course was an adult by the time the last was published).

So, I know what audience these books are geared to, and I know of their (to me somewhat astounding) popularity. I suppose as simple adventure stories they work better, but Mr. Riordan is supposed to be an authority on the titular subject here. (Greek myths are supposed to be the basis or subject here but really are in name only). As I said here and in other reviews, had my children been reading these and still young I'd have been concerned about what they took away. Further (again as I said) I just don't care for the way the stories or the characters are written.

BUT, again, that's just me. Obviously a lot disagree and the books are very popular. The review here is simply my opinion on the book and these books...as is any review I do. it's all I can do. I'm happy you like the books.

Oh and also, by bringing my attention back here you helped me find at least 3 typos (letters I failed to type etc.) Thanks (LOL).


Holly I just want to point out how clear it is that celestial bronze isn't like any bronze you've ever come in contact with because this is a FANTASY novel. Saying that is like pointing out that you've never met a god. I do agree with you though that Percy can be very slow-minded.


Mike (the Paladin) I don't want to get into a "thing" about these books. Personally as far as YA novels go I found them...not so great. The point was never made that all celestial bronze items wouldn't harm "mortals". I mean, as you say it's a fantasy and that would be a perfectly acceptable plot device I suppose, except the point was never made. it just seemed to be assumed.

Look, if you like the books that's fine I'm very much a "to each their own" person, we can't all like the same things. I just didn't like these. I actually "listened" to audio versions and also the reader was annoying and poor, I'm sure that probably didn't endear the books to me any more. BUT mostly I just found the character of Percy Jackson insipid, annoying and incredibly slow on the uptake.... Just me, and not a criticism of those who like the books.


Victoria_Grossack Grossack They struck me as having a comic book feel to them. Monster appears - fight - escape - new place - new monster appears, repeat. To be fair, it seems as if a lot of the ancient Greek myths used the same approach.


Mike (the Paladin) Well, LOL we'll have to disagree a bit about the classical myths though the complexity of the mythic worlds is pretty much gone from public education today. Personally I read a lot of mythology as a kid (fantasy literature was hard to come by except in a few pulp mags and so on). I actually liked Norse more than Greek or Roman...but still enjoyed most of them.

Riordan (to be fair) is a scholar and supposed to be an authority in the field, but it just seems to me these books butcher the Greek myths.


message 9: by Msouth (new)

Msouth I dunno, the characters in the myths did a lot of really boneheaded stuff...I don't think the characters show significantly more stupidity than the heroes in the original (not to mention the gods who fell for really stupid schemes).

If you go around reading stuff based on myth you'll find that authors tend to take liberties with the stories, which really just continues what has been done with them since antiquity. I really don't think the huntress band is much of a stretch from this, for example: "And give me sixty daughters of Okeanos for my choir - all nine years old, all maidens yet ungirdled; and give me for handmaidens twenty Nymphai Amnisides [of the Amnisos River in Krete] who shall tend well my buskins, and, when I shoot no more at lynx or stag, shall tend my swift hounds"...no doubt you were already familiar with that passage...no? Just sniping then?

BTW for someone that styles himself an as-yet-unpublished writer you could stand to learn some grammar--no editor is going to want to correct "you're" vs "your", "its" vs "it's", "real" vs. "really", etc. Before spending a lot of time criticizing others' work you should have the basic mechanics of the craft down yourself.


Mike (the Paladin) Typing quickly. I've noted typos abound in many posts...more than likely I'd have caught them before sending a manuscript off. Sorry if I offend you.

As for my take on the book, it's admittedly subjective, I didn't really care for it. Again sorry if you did. Enjoy.


Cecilia I was also about to say that you might want to take a look at your grammar before criticizing someone else's writing, but someone else already said that for me.


Mike (the Paladin) ...you know, I never criticized his grammar. I'd never criticize anyone's grammar...nor their grandpa either.


StoryTellerShannon I enjoyed the first two novels of the series. After that the quality dropped book by book. The fifth book was a skim read for me in certain parts more to finish the series once and for all.

That said, I wanted to read it as it was one of the most popular YA series out there at the time.


Dominique I don't want to comment on your views here, I just want to point out something: the point WAS made that celestial bronze would not hurt mortals. This is mentioned in the first book when Chiron gives Percy Riptide. It is later pointed out when Luke (again in book one) is flashing his sword to Percy. He states that is sword is made of both celestial and normal metals, so it can kill both mortals and immortals.


Mike (the Paladin) If you read all the comments, that came up earlier...at that point I was playing it for laughs, that somehow "celestial bronze" is bronze that won't cut mortals. Fine I get it.

Look I know a lot of people like these books (also as said earlier). I've had this reaction before when I don't care for a popular book. I get it a lot of people like the book(s). Enjoy.

I read a lot of books with my own kids. Had these been out when my kids were young I'd have been sure they didn't come away from it with false impressions. But they would have decided whether they liked them or not.

I don't. As a matter of fact the farther I went into the series I liked them less. I even found them annoying.

If you like them, please enjoy them. As I said, I don't.


Derrick Wow, you got hammered Mike. I guess that comes from having lots of friends/followers.
I happened to love the series, but I certainly can see how not everybody does/would.


message 17: by Mike (the Paladin) (last edited Oct 15, 2012 06:06pm) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mike (the Paladin) I actually reviewed this some time ago but someone "liked it" today and I looked back at it and found a typo. Shows that proof reading your own stuff is tricky. I really did/do dislike these and there are a lot of YA books I really like. (Also I listened to them in audio and the reader was a bit annoying). It's a matter of taste in some ways a "to each their own" but I do hate books that lead kids wrongly on things. I didn't care for the Alchemist books for example as they butchered the Cuchulain story and the Ulster Cycle, that sort of thing.

It's me, I realize others like these, but as I said were my kids still small I'd be watching what they came away with, LOL.


Shanshad Whelan ^_^ They are INDUBITABLY children's MG books, not YA. There's a certain . . . sensibility about them that particularly plays well to kids--especially boys. I enjoyed the series for what it was, but I'm fully aware of what to expect and would not have thought it a fit for you! I got to admit though that I found Percy as a rule less frustrating than Harry Potter.


Mike (the Paladin) Humm, again a matter of taste. I read the Harry Potter books beginning when they came out (my kids were still young) and read them as they came out. Those I liked. Of course the books got "older" and darker as they went. The original generation of kids who read those grew up as the books came out. I've continued to read the occasional YA book since.

Of course I read to my kids as they grew up. Since then I've run on books that I didn't care for (like these) and books I do like (for example the RANGER'S APPRENTICE boos).


LazerWraith I must admit that I liked these books, but I read them a few years ago when I wasn't much smarter than Percy Jackson. :) I probably wouldn't like them now.

And to all the silly people talking about Mike's grammar...a reviewer can have grammatical errors in their posts, but still have a point about poor writing in books. Books should be held to a higher standard. :)


Ubaha dear god, shutup.


LazerWraith Ubaha wrote: "dear god, shutup."

Thank you for that intelligent and interesting bit of information. I laud you for your critical thinking and ability to see and understand the views of other people.


StoryTellerShannon And I thought trolls were only on Amazon.


DavidO I thoguht your review was very good. Weird so many people attack you for voicing a dissenting opinion on a book!


Mike (the Paladin) I've got a few reviews that have apparently caused great consternation for some. :)


message 26: by Erika (new)

Erika Don't pay attention to them, it always amazes me how in many of your reviews you make sure to say hundreds of times that it's your opinion, and that's what YOU thought, etc... Taste is a personal matter and nobody can argue with that. So just ignore them. To each their own...


Gilberto I enjoyed the books, more so when I was younger, but I definitely wish a better writer had gotten to this idea first. Riordan seemed to be trying to write his own Harry Potter without actually trying to make it good. His characterization needs a lot of work, and some of his plot points make no sense. Somehow I can over look this just because I like Greek myths enough, but I really wish he'd done better with characterizing the gods.


Heather I have to say that you must not be a fantasy writer. Don't get me wrong, I agree with your review for the most part except that you seem surprised that it is written so inaccurately. Don't know of much fantasy that is accurate. At any rate, I think it is mediocre at best and totally rips off Harry Potter but that is just my opinion. Loved your line about being banned by the CDC! LMAO!


Mike (the Paladin) Not necessarily surprised...just not something I like. To each.


message 30: by Wea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Wea Gelilang You. Sir, you are absolutely hard to impress sir. I mean, I cannot see any flaws in his series. If you weren't interested as children and teenagers would be, I daresay, or I imply you to stop reading his series if you are to criticize or give a negative feedback about it. You obviously aren't interested or you didn't appreciate one of his books at the first place, I just wish you didn't continue on reading another book in this series. So yeah. :


Mike (the Paladin) As I said...to each their own taste.


message 32: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Wea wrote: "You. Sir, you are absolutely hard to impress sir. I mean, I cannot see any flaws in his series. If you weren't interested as children and teenagers would be, I daresay, or I imply you to stop readi..."

Good thing its not up to you.


message 33: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph My God!

There are some incredibly RUDE people visiting your review, Mike.

I think these rude people need to back up and check themselves. You are way to nice to some of these people, Sensei.


message 34: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Heather wrote: "I have to say that you must not be a fantasy writer."

Mike is an extensive fantasy reader and he is very well read in the field. Does it matter if he writes it as well?


message 35: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Cecilia wrote: "I was also about to say that you might want to take a look at your grammar before criticizing someone else's writing, but someone else already said that for me."

Well, thank you for having something important and worthwhile to add to the conversation. God only knows how we would have made it without this little gem.


Mike (the Paladin) Thanks MrsJ. Some people have a problem when a reviewer dislikes a book they love. Life.


message 37: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Wea wrote: "You. Sir, you are absolutely hard to impress sir. I mean, I cannot see any flaws in his series. If you weren't interested as children and teenagers would be, I daresay, or I imply you to stop reading his series if you are to criticize or give a negative feedback about it. You obviously aren't interested or you didn't appreciate one of his books at the first place, I just wish you didn't continue on reading another book in this series. So yeah. : "

Every time I see this rude ass comment I get pissed off all over again. Who do you think you are coming to someone's review to request them not to read a book because you don't like their opinion??!?!? WTF?! No one is stopping you from reading the books so what is your malfunction?


message 38: by Colleen (new)

Colleen Wea wrote: "You. Sir, you are absolutely hard to impress sir. I mean, I cannot see any flaws in his series."

This sort of thing always gets me... people who say things like "Well, I didn't see any flaws in this series, so, obviously, there aren't any and you're just critical/hard to impress!"

They never seem to realize it could just as easily by turned around to saying "Well, I saw many flaws in this series that you didn't so, obviously, you're just far too easily impressed and/or not nearly critical enough."


Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "Thanks MrsJ. Some people have a problem when a reviewer dislikes a book they love. Life."

I think a lot of it stems from the fact that people, by-and-large - and I include myself in this - have a tendency to think in black and white. We like nice, neat, factual type things which are either true or false.

We then have a hard time with things like opinions, which are inherently subjective and which can be contradictory and yet both equally true - for a given value of true.


message 39: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Colleen wrote: "They never seem to realize it could just as easily by turned around to saying "Well, I saw many flaws in this series that you didn't so, obviously, you're just far too easily impressed and/or not nearly critical enough.""

Such a great point Colleen!

I can see where Wea has shown very little critical thinking skills here. I guess it's nice to be so simple and easy to impress.


Becky Wea wrote: "You. Sir, you are absolutely hard to impress sir. I mean, I cannot see any flaws in his series. If you weren't interested as children and teenagers would be, I daresay, or I imply you to stop reading his series if you are to criticize or give a negative feedback about it."

Imply: (Verb) Strongly suggest the truth or existence of (something not expressly stated)

Implore: (Verb) Beg someone earnestly or desperately to do something.

I implore you to learn the meanings of the words you're using if you're going to try to make an intelligent argument, as well as proper comma usage and sentence structure.

Your inability to understand the purpose of this site implies more about your own lack of comprehension than anything. This space is for Mike's opinion of the book. Since it's clear you're not familiar with the term, let me help by defining it.

Opinion: a personal view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter.

Note the word "personal" and note the telling lack of the words "universal" or "fact". I know it's hard to grasp, but EVERYONE gets to have their own opinions... not just you.

Move along now.


message 41: by Elaine (new)

Elaine Mike, you are always nice to people who disagree with you and I think you're fab.Rude people just let themselves down. For the record, I agree totally with your review and opinions on this series[but even if I didn't you're still fab!lol]


Mike (the Paladin) "...I haven't blushed so much since Madame Pomfrey told me she liked my new earmuffs." Albus Dumbledore.
For the Harry Potter fans among us, :).

Becky, I saw that to but let it pass I assumed it was possibly an auto-correct thing or that English may not be a first language. Humor is where you find it.

Thanks MrsJ, Becky, Elaine, Colleen and all.

I know some people like this book....believe me, I've heard from several of you. BUT I don't. Please if you like it enjoy, this series isn't one I like. There are books I love that other people don't care for. I don't get it but that's life.


Leslie Great review Mike. I still loved the whole series, but I can certainly understand and largely agree with all of your criticisms. Thanks. :)


message 44: by Al (new) - rated it 5 stars

Al Well……HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT! I ABSOULUTLY LOVE THE PJO SERIES! AND SO DO MY IG FOLLOWERS WHO ARE ALL AGES (I have 1,752 followers) But seriously why don't you love the series it's awesome! Give it another try!! Btw Rick writes beast ;)


message 45: by Colleen (new)

Colleen Why is it so hard for some people to grasp that, just because they loved something, doesn't mean other people are required to, as well? *le sigh*


DavidO It's weird, right? At first I thought Al was being ironic because of all the caps, but if so the irony escapes me.


message 47: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Al wrote: "Btw Rick writes beast ;) "

Writes beast? That's a new one.


Mike (the Paladin) I've just stopped answering. If they really wanted to know what I thought they'd have actually thought about the review as they read it and have read the comments that have already said the same thing....namely : "I love these how can you not...you're a mean dummy."...unquote.


message 49: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I've just stopped answering. If they really wanted to know what I thought they'd have actually thought about the review as they read it and have read the comments that have already said the same th..."

LOL

Very true.


Aishwarya Sunamudi kamine luche.tujhe book likhna to aata hai nai unpublished kahinka.ja mar bhaad mai :P


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