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Heart of Darkness
by Joseph Conrad
by Joseph Conrad
This is a book I read twice and will probably never read again. I try to see this as a "great" novel but I have always wished Conrad had achieved a greater separation between his own voice and Marlow's. For me his inability to do so made it difficult to stomach the inherent racism in the book. The passage that will always stick out in my mind is the one in which the narrator muses that an educated black man is as "unnatural" as a dog putting on clothes and walking on its hindlegs.
That said, I don't think this book is worthless. In my experience the people I've discussed it with tend to either completely ignore the racism or excuse it and instead focus on the pyschological state of Kurtz or else they see the racism and completely dismiss the pyschological and other symbolic aspects of the book. For me this is not a great novel in the sense of it being one of the best ever written. There are just too many internal tensions and the blurring of the character's and author's perspectives makes this a very uncomfortable read. It is a great book for discussion though if all of its tensions are recognized. There is a powerful message here about how the darkness of the mind (and one's own inhumanity) can be projected onto others and one's environment and there is something very anti-colonialist and anti-racist about that. At the same time, these themes exist side by side with the author's own unacknowledged racism. Knowing that a book was written long ago helps contextualize and explain something offensive but I don't think it ever makes it less painful to read. For me the value in Heart of Darkness is in examining both the story Conrad set out to tell and the one he didn't even realize he was telling when he wrote this book.
That said, I don't think this book is worthless. In my experience the people I've discussed it with tend to either completely ignore the racism or excuse it and instead focus on the pyschological state of Kurtz or else they see the racism and completely dismiss the pyschological and other symbolic aspects of the book. For me this is not a great novel in the sense of it being one of the best ever written. There are just too many internal tensions and the blurring of the character's and author's perspectives makes this a very uncomfortable read. It is a great book for discussion though if all of its tensions are recognized. There is a powerful message here about how the darkness of the mind (and one's own inhumanity) can be projected onto others and one's environment and there is something very anti-colonialist and anti-racist about that. At the same time, these themes exist side by side with the author's own unacknowledged racism. Knowing that a book was written long ago helps contextualize and explain something offensive but I don't think it ever makes it less painful to read. For me the value in Heart of Darkness is in examining both the story Conrad set out to tell and the one he didn't even realize he was telling when he wrote this book.
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I understand what you're saying but for me racism isn't that clear cut or easy to define. If it were, it wouldn't be so elusive. That's what I was trying to say in my review. I don't know what other reasons people give for calling him racist but for me "the n-word" doesn't play any part in it. I think it's easy to label people as either prejudiced or non-prejudiced or racist or non-racist as though they are two pure categories that never can meet, or that we can make a blanket statement about the person with the label and sum them up neatly. That's why I didn't call Conrad a racist but I think in the book he does unconconsciously express some racist views. I think there's a difference between intent and the things that are lurking in our subconscious that we don't even realize.
I agree with you that he intended Heart of Darkness to be a treatise against colonization and I think some of that does shine through. When I read the book I can say it was clear to me that Conrad believed he was non-racist but either because of the times he lived in or other factors I have never gotten the sense from this book that he saw the common humanity in black people--not inferior or superior but just as flawed and human as everyone else.
I guess what I'm trying to say is there is racism in Heart of Darkness and I believe Conrad held racist views he wasn't aware of but I don't see that as reasont o dismiss him orlabel him as "bad". To me it's the combination of what he was trying to do (advocate against colonialism) and what reveals itself in the novel that's the most interesting part of the book and for me one of the best. I don't know if that makes any sense.
You make a lot of sense! I'm gonna chew on this for awhile, and I also want to thank you for bringing up some points I hadn't clearly thought through.
This is a book I read twice and will probably never read again. I try to see this as a "great" novel but I have always wished Conrad had achieved a greater separation between his own voice and Kurtz'.--Don't you mean his own voice and Marlow's?
I appreciate the attempt on your part to see both sides. I think that is worthwhile. I guess I am willing to agree with you that in some ways Conrad is a rascist. And I think it is fair to hold this in tension with the other aspects of the work. On the other hand I have to say that I am still on the opposite side of the coin. I think that the ways that Conrad shows up the underlying unity of humanity and the unacknowledged darkness of the colonial project far outweighs any incidental ways in which his view of African people may not live up to the our 21 century standards of racial equality.I'm also not sure why it bothers you that Conrad is blended with Marlow. It's an admitted fact that Conrad took a similar journey. Why should the fact that this story comes out of personal experience be held against it? (particularly as he obviously has taken that experience and done something remarkable with it)
Globulon wrote: "I appreciate the attempt on your part to see both sides. I think that is worthwhile. I guess I am willing to agree with you that in some ways Conrad is a rascist. And I think it is fair to hold ..."Globulon, I respect that view and I by no means want to dictate to anyone an interpretation. For me, this is a book that would have offended Africans back when it was written and there are many aspects that are offensive now. Africans back then would have accepted his racism as a fact but it would be no less painful to them. So when we talk about 21st century standards, whose standards are we talking about? Black people's, white people's or someone else's?
Like I said before, I don't think this is a worthless book because obviously Conrad was trying to do something noble. At the end of the day it comes down to what you choose to see as more valuable and why. For me this is an extremely difficult book to read because of the gap between the author's intentions and what he actually reveals about his own unrealized racism.
The reason I spoke of the separation between author and character is not because I hold his experience against him. I mention it only because I tried to decide what part of the racism in the book is Marlow's and what part is Conrad's. It's possible to have a character with certain views but have it still clear that the author's perspective is different or at least unknown. For me, I would be able to read some of the more offensive passages if it had been clear to me that this was just the narrator's voice. I didn't get that sense. So again, for me it is difficult to see much more than the problems with his characterizations of Africans in the book.
Thanks for the clarification. I definitely intend to read this book again, and your comments have given me food for thought and consideration when I do that.
It's been a while since I read this one and it was a bit over my head anyway (read the cliffnotes too), but I just want to say that "black" might not mean "dark skinned" in the case of this book. He plays with light vs. dark throughout the whole novel and I think it wouldn't be wise to consider it a matter of skin color alone. It's probably ambiguous on purpose, however, as is "The Horror, the horror" line.However, I think it can still be a valuable novel even if it or Conrad is racist. (That doesn't mean I think racism is OK.)
It's good that you can narrow the context to the time-period and get beyond it. Racism was all those people knew as they never had the opportunity to discover otherwise.
You've nailed my exact sentiments on this book. The inherent racism just bothered me and I often wondered if it was Conrad or Marlow that felt this way. Was Conrad making a comment on racist thinking or not? It continually baffles me because of that lack of separation between author and narrator and Marlow.

Using these as the definitions: 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
NOTE: The following is all my opinion, and only my opinion!
He was adamantly against #1 and #2, as the whole book was a treatise against colonialization. He didn't hate nor was he intolerant of other races. Yes, he was aware of physical difference, but he didn't believe that ALL black people were less..in fact, in many instances, he thought some black people superior (ie the cannibals he liked much better than the 'pilgrims'). If the only reason people say he was racist is because he used the n-word; well, that's not enough proof for me, IMHO.
Not meaning to start or contribute to any argument..just pointing out my viewpoint!