Meridyforgot's Reviews > Animal Farm
Animal Farm
by George Orwell, Ann Patchet
by George Orwell, Ann Patchet
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{Please read this first: Okay, I like my original review. It shares my opinion in what I thought was a humorous way. Perhaps if some of you knew me personally, you would find it more funny and actually understand what I am trying to say. However, I have decided to add a "less emotional" review at the end of the original. So if you would like to find fault with the first one, please continue to read the second. If after that, you would like to share a comment that entails of in it's entirety, "You are dumb and you don't know what you are talking about." Just know you will be completely ignored unless you can go beyond that and tell me why using your own intellect, and a reference to what occurred in the the book, to make your point. And actually to be completely honest I will probably be ignoring comments in general because they have been stressing me out...sorry.}
{I've had a slight change of heart. After thinking it over, I have decided to bump my rating up one star. Shocking you say? Well I still concur with everything written below (except the one star rating explanation), I just realized that I broke my own rule shall we say (I can no longer stand my own hypocrisy). One star, for me, actually most often means, that I totally hated the book, got NOTHING out of it, and in most cases it made me quite angry--There is no zero star rating after all. So, because this book actually taught me something valuable, I am giving it the distinction of two stars. Nobel of me, yes. Do I still loathe this book? You betcha.}
{I've decided to preface this review because I keep getting comments from people telling me that I don't know what this book is about. I do in fact. It is a allegory about the Soviet Union. The reason why I talk about America is because I am applying the book to myself. What is the point of reading a book like this if you can't apply it to yourself in some way and make changes for the better? Why else make high school students read this? And I rated it one star because I did not enjoy reading this book. That is how I rate books on this site. Perhaps this is very unfair of me because I did get a lot of good out of this book. But I'm not changing the rating now. Sorry. This is really one of my least favorite books on the planet.}
What surprises me most, in glancing at the other reviews, is that the people who didn't like the book, didn't like it because it was boring. I didn't like it because it was creepy! Animals taking over like that is frightening to me. Perhaps it is because I have seen the creepy cartoon. (My husband actually bought the cartoon to watch it more than once. Maybe I will go into the movie cabinet now and throw it away! ;)
But seriously. I think everyone should read it once, understand the symbolism, learn from it, and appreciate the good things about America. Just know you may not enjoy it. After that the lesson should be remembered, but the creepy story forgotten. What bugs me most about the story is Boxer. I mean he is a great guy (I mean horse). He is a hard worker, gentle, giving, and valuable to society because he is capable of doing great things. And what does he get for it?? Those of you who have read the story know. How aggravating is that?!?!? I have a hard time respecting him. He was duped! Year after year he gives service to these evil leaders and gets nothing for it. Not that we should all be selfish, but we need to look for good leadership. Boxer supports these bad leaders! He thinks they're wonderful until they betray him. Use your head. I find it extremely aggravating that all of his talents are wasted on undeserving leaders who don't care about him at all. He counted on the government to take care of him and they didn't care about him at all.
Now, I hope that every one knows, that even though America is not perfect and has flawed leadership sometimes, that I love America. It has the most potential to do good when compared to other forms of government, all things considered. But I would hope that I would not be duped by politicians promising me the moon, and then taking my hard work and money and using it selfishly for themselves. And I would hope that I would not continue voting for people like that year after year after year. Do not be duped America! Use your heads. If they are not promoting and DOING good things, don't vote for them. I think that is the most important lesson this book taught me. And it also taught me not to depend on government to take care of my problems. The animals depend on their government for everything, therefore the government as all the power, and then the power is abused. Take charge of your own life! Help should be provided by government if truly needed as a TEMPORARY safety net. However, there is no way that a government can provide everything for everyone without being socialistic and having too much power and then taking away everyone's freedom of choice.
A slightly more intellectual review:
Boxer is a blind follower of a government who made false promises to him. He wholeheartedly believes in them and what they say they stand for. He works hard his whole life on a windmill (and has little choice but to do so), that turns out to be a failed project because his current leaders lied to him and care nothing for the windmill. They just use it to suppress him. Boxer gave away his liberty by working so hard for them, and following their increasingly suppressive laws. He didn’t fight for his rights. He didn’t know that he had any at all. Instead of giving him the lovely retirement as promised in a sunny, flowering field, they ship him to the glue factory as a reward and early death for all of his hard work.
Okay once a person reads this and realizes that it is an allegory about Russia, one can draw some conclusions of his own. Being a young American citizen when I read this I could have said, “Well crappy to be all those poor Russians…” Or I could have applied it to myself with logical parallels, as I tried to do.
So what I came up with was this:
Boxer is a blind follower and it leads to his own ruin. I don’t have any piggy overlords like the ones in the book. I do have senators, judges, house members, and presidents. Now, politicians often make false promises like Boxers leaders made to him. Therefore I think it is wise to choose good leaders, and use my own intellect to make the best choices possible. I also want to keep my liberty intact as much as possible by not working hard for poor government and giving away all of my money to them. So I want to use my brain and not vote for leaders who take away my liberty. By voting for leaders who want make suppressive laws, who want more of my money, and who want suppressive social reforms, I am giving them my liberty and I don’t want to do that. So all I am saying is that I believe we should all use our heads and make wise decisions in government because we have rights and we know we have them.
Now I may not have explained this part as clearly, but I do believe America is great and has the greatest potential for long lasting good. Let’s take a look at Snowball here. He had a great idea: unite the animals, overthrow the evil human overlords, and build a windmill to promote the animal’s self reliance. The problem was the set up. Snowball got to have all the ideas. Snowball appointed himself leader. Snowball treated the other animals as lesser beings because of their lesser intellect. But Snowball forgot he could be murdered. And he was. He was murdered by his friends. Now murderers are the new leaders, with no opposition of any kind, and no end in sight. Instead of blindly following Snowball the barnyard now blindly follows them. The murderers now cleverly and slowly take away all of the barnyard’s freedom. They persuade, they use propaganda, they lie. Their laws become increasingly suppressive and step by step the animals have lost basic freedom. They have secretly trained vicious dogs to scare the barnyard away from rebellion. They will maintain their power for as long as they live. Pigs live quite long I think if you let them. Now instead of having one evil human leader, the barnyard has a few evil human-like pigs as leaders. The few dictating the masses.
In America, we the barnyard, take part in choosing our leaders and those leaders serve for limited terms and are then put up for vote again. We have rights we should want to fight for, and participation in that government helps us keep those rights. How grateful I am for that. We have checks and balances to help keep the few from dictating the masses. Socialism, the kind Orwell paints in this book, often starts out as a good idea, but it has the potential to go south quickly. This kind of Socialism only works if the leaders are perfect, and if the people are perfect. If you are not allowed to own your own property, and the government owns it and lets you borrow it, you just have to pray that they are going to be fair, and let you keep enough of your farm to eat from. You have to hope that they aren’t going to buy off your neighbor’s loyalty, and give him your share and let you rot. You have to hope that your neighbor won’t steal your portion from you because everyone’s portion is too small because the government who the people gave all their power to, takes too much. Logically the conclusion I draw, is that Socialism is not worth the risk it presents because no one living on this earth is perfect.
Now I know that there are probably other kinds of Socialism with intricate differences that I don’t know about. I’m not really trying to refer to all kinds of Socialism. However from what I have seen in my life, America still has most potential for longest lasting good. I like my freedom. I want to keep it.
{I've had a slight change of heart. After thinking it over, I have decided to bump my rating up one star. Shocking you say? Well I still concur with everything written below (except the one star rating explanation), I just realized that I broke my own rule shall we say (I can no longer stand my own hypocrisy). One star, for me, actually most often means, that I totally hated the book, got NOTHING out of it, and in most cases it made me quite angry--There is no zero star rating after all. So, because this book actually taught me something valuable, I am giving it the distinction of two stars. Nobel of me, yes. Do I still loathe this book? You betcha.}
{I've decided to preface this review because I keep getting comments from people telling me that I don't know what this book is about. I do in fact. It is a allegory about the Soviet Union. The reason why I talk about America is because I am applying the book to myself. What is the point of reading a book like this if you can't apply it to yourself in some way and make changes for the better? Why else make high school students read this? And I rated it one star because I did not enjoy reading this book. That is how I rate books on this site. Perhaps this is very unfair of me because I did get a lot of good out of this book. But I'm not changing the rating now. Sorry. This is really one of my least favorite books on the planet.}
What surprises me most, in glancing at the other reviews, is that the people who didn't like the book, didn't like it because it was boring. I didn't like it because it was creepy! Animals taking over like that is frightening to me. Perhaps it is because I have seen the creepy cartoon. (My husband actually bought the cartoon to watch it more than once. Maybe I will go into the movie cabinet now and throw it away! ;)
But seriously. I think everyone should read it once, understand the symbolism, learn from it, and appreciate the good things about America. Just know you may not enjoy it. After that the lesson should be remembered, but the creepy story forgotten. What bugs me most about the story is Boxer. I mean he is a great guy (I mean horse). He is a hard worker, gentle, giving, and valuable to society because he is capable of doing great things. And what does he get for it?? Those of you who have read the story know. How aggravating is that?!?!? I have a hard time respecting him. He was duped! Year after year he gives service to these evil leaders and gets nothing for it. Not that we should all be selfish, but we need to look for good leadership. Boxer supports these bad leaders! He thinks they're wonderful until they betray him. Use your head. I find it extremely aggravating that all of his talents are wasted on undeserving leaders who don't care about him at all. He counted on the government to take care of him and they didn't care about him at all.
Now, I hope that every one knows, that even though America is not perfect and has flawed leadership sometimes, that I love America. It has the most potential to do good when compared to other forms of government, all things considered. But I would hope that I would not be duped by politicians promising me the moon, and then taking my hard work and money and using it selfishly for themselves. And I would hope that I would not continue voting for people like that year after year after year. Do not be duped America! Use your heads. If they are not promoting and DOING good things, don't vote for them. I think that is the most important lesson this book taught me. And it also taught me not to depend on government to take care of my problems. The animals depend on their government for everything, therefore the government as all the power, and then the power is abused. Take charge of your own life! Help should be provided by government if truly needed as a TEMPORARY safety net. However, there is no way that a government can provide everything for everyone without being socialistic and having too much power and then taking away everyone's freedom of choice.
A slightly more intellectual review:
Boxer is a blind follower of a government who made false promises to him. He wholeheartedly believes in them and what they say they stand for. He works hard his whole life on a windmill (and has little choice but to do so), that turns out to be a failed project because his current leaders lied to him and care nothing for the windmill. They just use it to suppress him. Boxer gave away his liberty by working so hard for them, and following their increasingly suppressive laws. He didn’t fight for his rights. He didn’t know that he had any at all. Instead of giving him the lovely retirement as promised in a sunny, flowering field, they ship him to the glue factory as a reward and early death for all of his hard work.
Okay once a person reads this and realizes that it is an allegory about Russia, one can draw some conclusions of his own. Being a young American citizen when I read this I could have said, “Well crappy to be all those poor Russians…” Or I could have applied it to myself with logical parallels, as I tried to do.
So what I came up with was this:
Boxer is a blind follower and it leads to his own ruin. I don’t have any piggy overlords like the ones in the book. I do have senators, judges, house members, and presidents. Now, politicians often make false promises like Boxers leaders made to him. Therefore I think it is wise to choose good leaders, and use my own intellect to make the best choices possible. I also want to keep my liberty intact as much as possible by not working hard for poor government and giving away all of my money to them. So I want to use my brain and not vote for leaders who take away my liberty. By voting for leaders who want make suppressive laws, who want more of my money, and who want suppressive social reforms, I am giving them my liberty and I don’t want to do that. So all I am saying is that I believe we should all use our heads and make wise decisions in government because we have rights and we know we have them.
Now I may not have explained this part as clearly, but I do believe America is great and has the greatest potential for long lasting good. Let’s take a look at Snowball here. He had a great idea: unite the animals, overthrow the evil human overlords, and build a windmill to promote the animal’s self reliance. The problem was the set up. Snowball got to have all the ideas. Snowball appointed himself leader. Snowball treated the other animals as lesser beings because of their lesser intellect. But Snowball forgot he could be murdered. And he was. He was murdered by his friends. Now murderers are the new leaders, with no opposition of any kind, and no end in sight. Instead of blindly following Snowball the barnyard now blindly follows them. The murderers now cleverly and slowly take away all of the barnyard’s freedom. They persuade, they use propaganda, they lie. Their laws become increasingly suppressive and step by step the animals have lost basic freedom. They have secretly trained vicious dogs to scare the barnyard away from rebellion. They will maintain their power for as long as they live. Pigs live quite long I think if you let them. Now instead of having one evil human leader, the barnyard has a few evil human-like pigs as leaders. The few dictating the masses.
In America, we the barnyard, take part in choosing our leaders and those leaders serve for limited terms and are then put up for vote again. We have rights we should want to fight for, and participation in that government helps us keep those rights. How grateful I am for that. We have checks and balances to help keep the few from dictating the masses. Socialism, the kind Orwell paints in this book, often starts out as a good idea, but it has the potential to go south quickly. This kind of Socialism only works if the leaders are perfect, and if the people are perfect. If you are not allowed to own your own property, and the government owns it and lets you borrow it, you just have to pray that they are going to be fair, and let you keep enough of your farm to eat from. You have to hope that they aren’t going to buy off your neighbor’s loyalty, and give him your share and let you rot. You have to hope that your neighbor won’t steal your portion from you because everyone’s portion is too small because the government who the people gave all their power to, takes too much. Logically the conclusion I draw, is that Socialism is not worth the risk it presents because no one living on this earth is perfect.
Now I know that there are probably other kinds of Socialism with intricate differences that I don’t know about. I’m not really trying to refer to all kinds of Socialism. However from what I have seen in my life, America still has most potential for longest lasting good. I like my freedom. I want to keep it.
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This was way fun to read! You should blog, Mer! SERIOUS!
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I was one of the fortunate ones who didn't have to read this in high school- the AP people did, however I got the opportunity to in College English. It wasn't that bad but there's no way, upon reading it on my own, that I would have gotten the political side of it. I would think these are just some crazy, mean pigs who keep breaking all the rules! I don't usually pick up on the deeper meaning of things on my own like that in books. I have a hard time just reading required books my own. Just ask my mom. She got up with me to read my books to me as I got ready for school because I'm such a slow reader and would always fall asleep!! Unless I'm absolutely into a book it really is hard for me to read. Even with Animal Farm I went to the library to get the audio version to follow along with. That helped a lot! I still can hear the guy's voice that read it. He had a cool accent. I even remember the little song in there the animals sing that's a combination of "La Cucaracha" and "Clementine." I could sing it for ya if you'd like. :) But anyway... there are lots of things to learn from Animal Farm, but yeah, not a book that's high on my list.
Um, I'm a different Angela, just to say.
I am not sure if you think this book is about America or not, and if you don't I'm sorry, but I just thought I'd tell you that at school we learnt this book is about the Russian Revolution, so I don't think the author was criticising the US. Again, sorry if I have completely missed your point and you did know this.
I am not sure if you think this book is about America or not, and if you don't I'm sorry, but I just thought I'd tell you that at school we learnt this book is about the Russian Revolution, so I don't think the author was criticising the US. Again, sorry if I have completely missed your point and you did know this.
Hey no problem Angela. Yeah you are right it is totally about the Russian Revolution. Actually it is a British guy's prediction of the fall of Russian communism that was amazingly accurate. I just like to apply things I read to me and my situation. Reading this book really did make me appreciate my country. It made me appreciate the great leadership and system of government that the US has. Although the system and leadership are not perfect by any means, I feel it makes the USA (and countries similar the USA) the most free and wonderful place to live. That makes it even more important for Americans to choose moral leadership to help keep America as free as possible and safe as possible. The worst thing that can happen to Americans is to be duped by leadership that does not have our best interest at heart. Animal Farm clearly points out what evil leadership can do. Since so many Americans seem to get the "opportunity" to read this book, I was applying it to Americans as a whole. I was shouting out to the US as a whole: keep your minds open, use your hearts, and choose good leaders. Sometimes our options are slim, but we need to do our best. It is our duty.
Oh, I see. I was worried you thought the author was attacking America - I got it wrong. You're completely right about how important it is not to be duped by leadership and how it is a duty. Thanks for the reply. :)
I really liked your ideas on GOvernment and voting.... YOu should try reading some Henry David Thoreau stuff.
Thanks! I should. I've been on a really girly book kick though. ;) But I should get a little bit more intellectual again and pick that Thoreau stuff up. I always thought he was interesting when I learned about him in school.
Boxer was representative of the working class, blindly working ever-harder to try and benefit his country the most. Trusting the government was indeed his only mistake, but can you criticize someone who was written into a book as a representation of something more massive than the actual creature itself? Sure, he continually trusted the government until the last moments when he tried to kick his way out, but he had no reason to distrust them; he was uneducated, unintelligent, easy to manipulate, and a hard-working horse who only wanted to get out from under the regime of Mr. Jones & work for the good of animals.However corrupted the government was, the other animals didn't question much of the government either. Boxer just happened to be the most dedicated to the cause of Animalism.
And yea, it's about Russia. [; I saw some other reviews that didn't seem to think that the book was very political. It's completely political.
Ashley wrote: "Boxer was representative of the working class, blindly working ever-harder to try and benefit his country the most. Trusting the government was indeed his only mistake, but can you criticize someon..."Ashley it is political in nature but it has nothing to do specifically with Russia. It tries to represent the whole political background concering good and evil.
Pilkington's farm represented Britain. Frederick's represented Germany. Russia could never quite make a decision with either one, but in the end they both teamed up against Germany.
"In a letter to Yvonne Davet, Orwell described Animal Farm as his novel 'contre Stalin.'" (Wikipedia)
Although the novel IS representative of good and evil in politics, it is more specifically representative of the politics in Russia in the years leading up to WWII.
Napoleon is representative of Stalin, Snowball of Trotsky, so on and so forth.
Old Major's skull (aka remains) are put on display; an eerie coincidence in comparison to Russia's Vladimir Lenin, isn't it?
I appreciate your broader view of the situation, but there is evidence to clearly indicate that Orwell was directly attacking Russia with this novel. He wrote it after seeing the corruption that he wrote about when he fought in Spain for Russia, called it "contre Stalin" in letters, and made more direct representations to Russia's corruption and specific leaders than I can count on one hand.
And I am sorry to be so wordy.
The part about Boxer was supposed to be sad and irritating. It really bothered me!But according to your review I don't think that you should have given the book such a low rating; just because a book is 'creepy' and 'aggravating' does not mean that it is a bad work of literature and deserves one star. :)
I am still dubious about that one star, tell me more. I mean you pointed out your reflection and I thought that would at least carry out to be a 3+ star... Did you not like the literature or was it some other reason?
George Orwell didn't predict the Russian revolution which happened in the late 10s early 20s, he was writing about then present day Russia in 1945 which was under the rule of Stalin, with the whole Trotsky thing and all the other terrible things Stalin did. U.S. is also briefly mentioned at the end of the book.
WHAT THE HELLL ARE YOU 2!!!!!!!!!!! OH IM SCARED OF A FREAKEN BOOK!!!!! IT HAS TALKING ANIMALS TO SYMBOL THAT IN THE END THAT THE PIGS WERE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE HUMANS YOU MORON!!!!
Please note that Orwell was not opposed to socialism—he was himself a socialist—but rather to the autocratic rule of Stalin. He argued that the USSR under Stalin was not socialism.
Not sure about Boxer, but Snowball represented Trotsky, a Communist who was exiled to Spain and then assassinated by the KGB under Stalin's orders.I think Boxer was representative of the Communist Party worker, not the "working class" itself.
Holy cow! I didn't know anyone was still reading this review. Interesting. I didn't know that the animals in the book represented so many actual people. I just remember learning that this book was about Russia, and even that Orwell predicted that communism in Russia would fail. I think I wrote in a comment up top that he predicted the revolution--I should go fix that.
Interesting about Orwell, Rob. Reading the book still makes me disagree with socialism, though. It has too much potential to turn to tyranny too quickly. Too many people have to be too good. It would be nice if it could work. I don't know how you feel personally though. ;)
Even though it IS a great piece of literature, it still receives one star, because honestly, I did not enjoy it at all, not even a little. Also, like I said it was creepy. The idea of a tyrant taking over my country is frightening to me. THAT is what is scary about it, you lovely person who called me a moron in capital letters. The fact that it was animals and that they made a cartoon depicting it creeped me out. Have you seen the cartoon? It disturbs me. Sorry.
"But according to your review I don't think that you should have given the book such a low rating; just because a book is 'creepy' and 'aggravating' does not mean that it is a bad work of literature and deserves one star."To HER, it was a one star book. So she can rate it one star because she didn't like it, even IF she thought it was a great work of literature. For heavens sake, who rates all the books they read solely on their literary merit?! A person's star rating is their opinion of the book, whether it be how the book made them feel, or how they liked the characters, or maybe sometimes it's literary value.
My own rating of a book can change after multiple reads, just because I appreciate it differently at a different time in my life. I hate it when people criticize others' book ratings. Book ratings are completely arbitrary and have nothing to do with how other people felt about the book. If she didn't like it, she didn't like it, so please realize that not everyone rates books on how well the book was written.
I've read plenty of well written books that plain SUCK, and guess what? I gave them one star...perfectly well written books with well developed characters and a well developed story. I gave them ONE STAR because I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
Sheri, you are sweet friend to stick up for me. :) I agree with you. Ratings change over time, AND I do rate books on how much I enjoyed them. Sometimes if it effected me positively I rate them higher even if I didn't love the book, but if I HATED reading them, I give them one star.
I understand what you are trying to say about Boxer, but you aren't being entirely fair. It clearly states in the book that most animals have trouble thinking for themselves, including Boxer, who may be one of the slowest. The result in this is that when the pigs put ideas in their head, they really believe what they say is right. So in being made to believe that there is something better out there just beyond reach, Boxer works his little behind off, working more hours than other animal because he believes he is helping work towards something good for all animals, not just the ones on that farm. Therefore, I feel you have misjudged him, and rather than seeing him as someone who serves evil, and not respecting him, we should admire his determination and good-heartedness, and put it to use in our own lives! :D
Also, I am not disagreeing that is our duty to make sure we are not duped by the government! I am just saying that there is quite a difference between humans and animals, especially in respect to this, as humans are well educated and are able to think for themselves without even trying. In the book however, no matter how hard Boxer tries, sometimes he just can't seem to form thoughts when he's not entirely sure about something. As well as his memory is not very good at all, and he can't remember much previous to what is happening in the present.
Kelly-anne, you make a good point. Boxer does have a hard time thinking for himself, and he is noble. He does work hard. I think I get so frustrated with him because I immediately jump to the metaphor the author is trying to make, which I think is that people are often duped. There are actually many people in countries who are not well enough educated to make informed decisions and are swayed by political leaders. Am I being mean to them? Maybe so. What we need to foster in this country is people thinking for themselves. But people too much trust in scientists, politicians, government, etc. For example, people treat scientists like they know everything because they've studied. That gives scientist too much power because they can say what they want and many people follow them like sheep, or perhaps horses.... But scientists are human. They make mistakes. If a scientist says something that sounds a little far fetched, we should be questioning it. That's what science should be: questioning. Not blind faith. We need to teach people to think for themselves. They are capable unlike horses. And we can't learn everything. So we need to teach people to learn how to think for themselves and how to read other people more I think.
As a single person, in my little part of the world, I can only do so much to "help" and then I get frustrated....so I end up writing reviews on books that turn out to be controversial. That is the reason for the negativity about Boxer.
True, I think I may have misinterpreted the review before. I definately understand where you are coming from, and I agree. It's scary how certain people in the world seem to have control over others, but from what i've seen and read, I feel it will only get worse before it gets better, such as the possibility of a 1 world government and other things that have been predicted for the future. I guess all we can do is make the best of it and teach our children, grandchildren and so on all we have learned over the years!
Yeah, I totally agree. I need to ask my kids more questions that encourage them to think instead of giving them answers. That's one place to start I think.
You're right Nina, it's not about America which I previously explained in previous comments. I was applying the book more to my situation. I was explaining what I learned and took from the book. Knowing that it was about Orwell's predictions about Russia, yeah sure that's interesting to know. Trying to prevent anything like that happening in my country by learning from the mistakes of others, makes the book meaningful. I think that is the point. However I know that I personally can't "save" the country, but we can all encourage each other to vote for good leaders and teach our kids to work and pay attention and think for themselves.
I did write something about the book. In fact, the book IS a political position. Besides, a million people have written what the book is about. If you want a synopsis of the book, go and read one of those instead, or just read the back cover of the book. This is MY review not yours.
I read the whole book and I remember it just fine :) It's not a political position, unless you count "USSR is really just as corrupt and cruel as our regime" as one. I refer you to the very last paragraph of the book.
Alright, perhaps it is wrong to say that the book is a "political position." However, the entire subject of the book is politics. If reading it doesn't bring out a political position in someone, then I don't know what would. The author had is own political position which drove him to write the book. His was different from mine. But what is the point in writing a book about politics? It is to make a person think about their political position, which is what I did and what I chose to write my review about.
"However I know that I personally can't "save" the country, but we can all encourage each other to vote for good leaders and teach our kids to work and pay attention and think for themselves."Isn't that partially what the book is about? I mean, Orwell himself was against totalitarianism, and I think that by creating characters like Boxer he is not only depicting the world as it is - full of people who "follow the stream" without really reflecting over their choices - but encouraging the readers to think for themselves, socialists or not. The book is not promoting communism in any way - rather the opposite - so I don't see how this is threatening your American values.
You also mention how the book taught you "important lessons". If a book teaches you a lesson, then, just maybe, it deserves more than one star? The point of a book like this is to make the reader react and think - it obviously succeded.
LOL@ Alexei. Meridyforgot, you must love rom-coms, Disney, and movies where the hero defeats the bad guy, gets the gal, and rides off into the sunset. Not every book is written to just be sunshine and rainbows. Remember, you can’t have rainbows without rain. Animal Farm is meant to be upsetting and it clearly had the right effects on you. It made you think and yet you give it one star. I have also never heard any one need to relay how much they love America in reviewing AF. The book also isn’t about socialism – socialism is such a dirty word in America and I think most people don’t even know what it means and I believe Orwell was actually a democratic socialist. AF is about how the good intentions of an egalitarian system of government can be corrupted into totalitarianism. I hope the book did open your mind and all that love for America doesn’t blind you. You should read Orwell’s 1984, deep down it is a love story.
Why hate a book just because it gives a different point of view that you may not agree with? Whatever it may mean, it is still a great fable and very symbolically written.
Quinton wrote: "Uh... Sorry to break this to you, but the book was not about America.. It was about Russia..." As I may feel Meridyforgot undervalued the book simply because she/he didn't like how it made him/her feel (which in fact was the intended reaction) - Meridyforgot said he/she knows it's an allegory for the Soviet Union.
it doesn't have to be about Russia. its message translates to all regimes that risk the exploitation of power and its people. orwell was an unabashed socialist (as in England it is not a dirty word) and was one of the most important writers of the 20th century. he would be turning in his grave if he knew someone believed his book could be mistakenly taken as a compliment to liberal democracy or the Usa. you just have to read some occupy Literature to prove how corrupt, unequal and exploitative of the workers the Usa is. proving how relevant his ideas still are. do not read this as historical fiction.
You never really told us what you don't like about this book. Boxer's end was symbolic. It showed that communist rulers can do that to their people and get away with it.
She said, and I quote, "I didn't like it because it was creepy!" Which to me, is a very clear "what". :)
This was not an objective and clear-minded review. Unless you can provide legitimate facts and logical reasons for your rating, it ends up being very misguided. You should want all your essays, reviews, critiques, etc., to be credible and unbiased.
Spell check much? You don't review a book based on how creepy it is. Read this in ten years and try again. You honestly have no idea what your talking about.
Robert,Yes spelling is not my forte. Good job picking that up. I try to spell check, doesn't always happen though.
I do review a book on how creepy it is, I just said that in my review. Did you read the whole thing? MY review=I can say/believe what I want. I even explained what I was doing which wasn't even necessary. All of you who want to leave me another comment like this, can just go write your own review and say whatever the heck you want. We live in a free country after all.
In response to your last comment I've at least watched the [creepy] cartoon within the last ten years already, and it's quite accurate as far as I remember. I still stand by what I said. Perhaps if you are going to comment on something that I had the freedom to write, and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, perhaps you should tell me why I don't know what I am talking about. As far as I'm concerned you've given me no reason to change my point of view with an intelligent argument of your own.
To Ryan,
Who said my review needed to be clear-minded? It's MY review. You also can go and write your own. Sorry to break it to you, but I don't care how "unbiased" a paper or critique is, there is going to be some kind of biased mentioned in there because we are human and we won't be able to change that for a long time to come.
As far as I'm concerned I did use logic. Could it perhaps be that you just don't agree with me? As I said to Robert, I am disinclined to reassess my biases until you can give me a reason, backed with facts why I should change my mind.
To Jay,
I'm very sure it was meant to be creepy. Does that mean I should love it? Do you love everything? Isn't there something that you dislike greatly because it is creepy, grotesque, obscene, disgusting, etc. ? Hello.
Um yeah and I can disagree with you. That's the whole purpose of comments. This book isn't about cheering you with frolicking barn yard animals and your reviews shouldnt be influenced by the cartoon version or based soley on your emotional responses.I didn't like it because it was creepy! Animals taking over like that is frightening to me. Perhaps it is because I have seen the creepy cartoon.
So you rate it two stars because it's creepy then go on to recommend that everyone reads it?
But seriously. I think everyone should read it once…
To me this makes no sense, ie you have no idea what your talking about. Call me strange but how passionate I am in recommending a book plays a major role in how I rate it.
Alexei,Okay use of logic. Here we go:
Boxer is a blind follower of a government who made false promises to him. He whole-heartedly believes in them and what they say they stand for. He works hard his whole life on a windmill (and has little choice but to do so), that turns out to be a failed project because his current leaders lied to him and care nothing for the windmill. They just use it to suppress him. Boxer gave away his liberty by working so hard for them, and following their increasingly suppressive laws. He didn’t fight for his rights. He didn’t know that he had any at all. Instead of givng him the lovely retirement as promised in a sunny, flowering field, they ship him to the glue factory as a reward and early death for all of his hardwork.
Okay once a person reads this and realizes that it is an allegory about Russia, one can draw some conclusions of his own. Being a young American citizen when I read this I could have said, “Well crappy to be all those poor Russians…” Or I could have applied it to myself with logical parallels, as I tried to do.
So what I came up with was this:
Boxer is a blind follower and it leads to his own ruin. I don’t have any piggy overlords like the ones in the book. I do have senators, judges, house members, and presidents. Now, politicians often make false promises like Boxers leaders made to him. Therefore I think it is wise to choose good leaders, and use my own intellect to make the best choices possible. I also want to keep my liberty intact as much as possible by not working hard for poor government and giving away all of my money to them. So I want to use my brain and not vote for leaders who take away my liberty. By voting for leaders who want make suppressive laws, who want more of my money, and who want suppressive social reforms, I am giving them my liberty and I don’t want to do that. So all I am saying is that I believe we should all use our heads and make wise decisions in government because we have rights and we know we have them.
Now I may not have explained this part as clearly, but I do believe America is great and has the greatest potential for long lasting good. Let’s take a look at Snowball here. He had a great idea: unite the animals, overthrow the evil human overlords, and build a windmill to promote the animal’s self reliance. The problem was the set up. Snowball got to have all the ideas. Snowball appointed himself leader. Snowball treated the other animals as lesser beings because of their lesser intellect. But Snowball forgot he could be murdered. And he was. He was murdered by his friends. Now murderers are the new leaders, with no opposition of any kind, and no end in sight. Instead of blindly following Snowball the barnyard now blindly follows them. The murderers now cleverly and slowly take away all of the barnyard’s freedom. They persuade, they use propaganda, they lie. Their laws become increasingly suppressive and step by step the animals have lost basic freedom. They have secretly trained vicious dogs to scare the barnyard away from rebellion. They will maintain their power for as long as they live. Pigs live quite long I think if you let them. Now instead of having one evil human leader, the barnyard has a few evil human-like pigs as leaders. The few dictating the masses.
In America, we the barnyard, take part in choosing our leaders and those leaders serve for limited terms and are then put up for vote again. We have rights we should want to fight for, and participation in that government helps us keep those rights. How grateful I am for that. We have checks and balances to help keep the few from dictating the masses. Socialism, the kind Orwell paints in this book, often starts out as a good idea, but it has the potential to go south quickly. This kind of Socialism only works if the leaders are perfect, and if the people are perfect. If you are not allowed to own your own property, and the government owns it and lets you borrow it, you just have to pray that they are going to be fair, and let you keep enough of your farm to eat from. You have to hope that they aren’t going to buy off your neighbor’s loyalty, and give him your share and let you rot. You have to hope that your neighbor won’t steal your portion from you because everyone’s portion is too small because the government who the people gave all their power to, takes too much. Logically the conclusion I draw, is that Socialism is not worth the risk it presents because no one living on this earth is perfect.
Now I know that there are probably other kinds of Socialism with intricate differences that I don’t know about. I’m not really trying to refer to all kinds of Socialism. However from what I have seen in my life, America still has most potential for longest lasting good. I like my freedom. I want to keep it.
Now if you don’t think this is logical, please tell my why with a logical statement of your own.
Robert, Yes you do have the right to tell me what you think. And I told you what I think you should do. I think you should Go. Write. A. Review. Of. You're. Own. And then send me the link to it, and I will write a comment of my own to you.
Comments are not for cheering me on. I understand that. Comments are for sharing your opinion. Yours to me basically was, "You're dumb and you don't know what you are talking about." Wow. Pretty inspiring. Why don't you share your own opinion of the book? Or your own opinion of government? Or tell me why Boxer was your favorite character and why I should like him too.
By the way, if the cartoon is approaching word for word out of the book, I pretty much think that is close enough.
I also find it poor logic to say, "Your review doesn't make any sense to me, so therefore you don't know what you are talking about." How does that prove that I don't know what I am talking about? Maybe you are actually lacking something to help you understand me and therefore you don't actually know what you are talking about?
I was a little emotional when I wrote my review. I was also trying to be funny in some places. Maybe you don't like my sense of humor. But this is a goodreads review not my doctoral thesis. And if you thought about it, you might see that my conclusions of the book are not solely based on emotion. If you would like a less emotional version, please read the comment I just made to Alexei.
As far as my rating logic I can only explain it with this metaphor:
I hate brushing my teeth. It's a fact. It's too time consuming. I'm a little OCD about wanting each and every part of my tooth to be clean. It's a little emotionally exhausting. Do I brush my teeth? Yes. Do I like brushing my teeth? No. Should you brush your teeth? Yes, please do! Can I rate teeth brushing as a 5 star activity? Heck NO! Teeth brushing is definitely a 2 star activity.
Meridyforgot wrote: "Alexei,Okay use of logic. Here we go:
Boxer is a blind follower of a government who made false promises to him. He whole-heartedly believes in them and what they say they stand for. He works har..."
I think you don't understand what logic is. There is a free logic class on coursera.org, maybe you should sign up :)




