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Schild's Ladder
by Greg Egan
by Greg Egan
Nick Black's review
bookshelves: likely-reread, snap-crackle-pop-science
Jun 14, 12
bookshelves: likely-reread, snap-crackle-pop-science
Recommended to Nick by:
Twitch
Read from June 13 to 14, 2012, read count: 1
pretty interesting! i'm not sure how i feel about this -- i don't read much sci-fi, so elements of the style were quite grating. also, what was up with the liquidgoo on the warehouse roof? i loved a few of the lines, though: "nothing could have lived up to four thousand years of waiting, except perhaps an original theorem." also, gotta love the reference to Thorne+Wheeler's Gravitation at the end.
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Supposedly "the hardest science fiction ever written," I'll freely admit that I'm reading this mainly to sit around afterwards and congratulate myself on how fucking smart I am, and because I've spent all afternoon rereading the papers of mad German computer scientist/physicist Jürgen Schmidhuber and some Freeman Dyson and am feeling the old digital physics monkey on my back (I still think I might one day reinvest myself in said field, once I've set supercomputer design on its head). We'll see how it goes; I'm not a big scifi fan by any means.
Funny reviews on Amazon:
"Not great literature in the classic sense, but there's a lot of intriguing speculation here. The would-be reader should be warned, though: you will not fully appreciate this book unless you've made significant progress toward a degree in physics or a related field! (You could also get away with just reading a lot of pop science, provided you've read enough to be familiar with ideas like decoherence and superselection.) This truly is the hardest SF I've read."
"Woosh. That was the sound of this book going right over my head.
I love hard sci-fi, don't get me wrong. I've read plenty of layman's books on quantum physics and consider myself reasonably well-informed on science in general. Still, large chunks of "Schild's Ladder" were basically gibberish to me, and the book was actually somewhat of a chore to get through. I haven't had that experience in a long time."
hehe, we'll see! Manny, I'm kind of surprised you haven't tackled Egan...
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Supposedly "the hardest science fiction ever written," I'll freely admit that I'm reading this mainly to sit around afterwards and congratulate myself on how fucking smart I am, and because I've spent all afternoon rereading the papers of mad German computer scientist/physicist Jürgen Schmidhuber and some Freeman Dyson and am feeling the old digital physics monkey on my back (I still think I might one day reinvest myself in said field, once I've set supercomputer design on its head). We'll see how it goes; I'm not a big scifi fan by any means.
Funny reviews on Amazon:
"Not great literature in the classic sense, but there's a lot of intriguing speculation here. The would-be reader should be warned, though: you will not fully appreciate this book unless you've made significant progress toward a degree in physics or a related field! (You could also get away with just reading a lot of pop science, provided you've read enough to be familiar with ideas like decoherence and superselection.) This truly is the hardest SF I've read."
"Woosh. That was the sound of this book going right over my head.
I love hard sci-fi, don't get me wrong. I've read plenty of layman's books on quantum physics and consider myself reasonably well-informed on science in general. Still, large chunks of "Schild's Ladder" were basically gibberish to me, and the book was actually somewhat of a chore to get through. I haven't had that experience in a long time."
hehe, we'll see! Manny, I'm kind of surprised you haven't tackled Egan...
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Jun 17, 2012 09:48am
The goo was life that hadn't originated on Earth, something considered rare enough that they would have migrated to a new world rather than risk disturbing it. Kid didn't want to upset his cozy life, so they don't tell anyone, and it presumably goes extinct, causing guilt etc. down the line. That was definitely the most unnecessarily confusing part of the book, IMO.
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Brendan wrote: "The goo was life that hadn't originated on Earth, something considered rare enough that they would have migrated to a new world rather than risk disturbing it. Kid didn't want to upset his cozy lif..."I understood all the first part of that. What I mean is, why was it introduced and such a big deal made of it, just to be forgotten?
Nick wrote: "I understood all the first part of that. What I mean is, why was it introduced and such a big deal made of it, just to be forgotten? "Ah. I believe it was intended to a) provide some motivation for the main character's somewhat strange and angsty behavior (and his ambivalence toward the female lead), and his participation in the Yielder movement; and b) link up to the idea expressed later, that our physics is pretty inimical to complex life (which is intended to provide a resolution to the Fermi paradox).
More generally, the characterization is not well done because Greg Egan is not particularly gifted in that area.
