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War by Sebastian Junger

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Aug 20, 10

Recommended to warren by: NYTBR
Recommended for: Any book club--a great eye-opening book for discussion.
Read from May 30 to 31, 2010, read count: 2

This is a phenomenal book and should be required reading for all the knee jerk liberals like me who have had nothing but disdain for the military. What impressed Junger the most during his several months series of embedments with the US army in Afghanistan was the closeness of the men in his units. These soldiers didn't talk about bringing democracy to Afghanistan or any other political or social raison d'etre for their being in what could be described as a Hell on earth. Their only goal was to protect each other from dying even at the risk of dying themselves. This was the theme throughout the book and fortunately, Junger is better at describing what he lived through than I am at summarizing what he wrote. He recounts being with a sixteen man unit in the Taliban infested mountains of Afghanistan under unbelievable conditions. Most of the time, there was one hundred degree plus heat, travel for miles on foot with 75-100 pounds on your back, very few showers, no hot meals and little sleep. This was all in addition to Taliban fighters trying to kill you at any opportunity. There was an adrenaline high for the soldiers involved in combat and always the fear that you might let down one of your comrades and be responsible for his death.
There was a great deal of war in War, but Junger does more than bloody battles and provides an enlightening account of backgrounds and psychological make-up of the men he served with as well as history, geography, tactics, weapons resulting in a spellbinding book which, ironically, I finished on Memorial Day.

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08/11/2010 "Am reading this again for my book club and have already reviewed it in a previous post."
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Larry Bassett I probably need to read this book again some day. But what I don't get is WHY someone would volunteer to put themselves in this kind of situation. If you desire male bonding, you could play in some contact sport like football or basketball or soccer.

This book is running together with The Things They Carried from an earlier war. OK, war is hell. So why do we do it? Warren, I am a knee jerk radical but this did not humanize war for me. It ruins a lot of people (including women and children).


warren Cassell Totally agree. However, I'm not sure that Junger's War was a way of humanizing war for me. I have had no use for the military since I served a long time ago; his book simply gave me a new perspective and respect for the singularity of the military's individual soldiers and their motivations. I can no longer brush all of the military with the same swath of paint I always used: alcoholic, dysfunctional, dregs of society, unable to hold a job in the real world. (Applies to non-officer careerists in a voluntary army!) Anyway, before I go any further with this rant, I thought you might be interested in an article in The Times today: http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...

Cheers,
Warren


Larry Bassett Thanks for the link. I will likely wait for Restrepo to make it to Netflix. That would probably be a good time to read the book again. Do you think Junger did this for the money? Seems like he probably had enough of that from his other books. I guess he didn't plan to almost be killed by an IED but he did some real walking in the shoes of those guys. Does he love to go to work in the morning?


warren Cassell From my very short acquaintance with him, I would say that he was not driven by money; rather, he was in pursuit of a story. Perfect Storm was a terrific story and I would hazard a guess that he would have liked being on board one of the ships that survived instead of having to research it after the fact.
He's still collecting royalties from that book as well as several others he's written--in addition to the stuff he does for Vanity Fair.
I don't know if you will be able to open this, but following is a ten year old article about my former life and brief experience with Junger: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/31/bus...

Cheers,

Warren


Larry Bassett Fascinating! I guess you are retired now on your book selling riches? (That and social security will get you a cup of coffee!)

Next he should write a book about "adrenaline and the dare devil" after trying race car driving and tightrope walking and bungee jumping. Sounds like an interesting guy, if somewhat intense.


Jimmy Warren, I'm not sure why you felt the need to make the comment: "knee jerk liberals . . . who have had nothing but disdain for the military." I could certainly be labeled as a liberal, and I served in the military, served in Vietnam, support the military, and knew many other soldiers in the service who felt the same way. That kind of language just allows "conservatives" to use military personnel politically. Soldiers then vote for tax cuts for the rich and wonder where the money for veterans' benefits are going to come from. We end up fighting wars without paying for them. And I am specifically referring to the years 2000 to 2008.


warren Cassell Hi Jimmy,
Thanks to your thoughtful response to my write-up. We both may be knee-jerk liberals but we obviously had dissimilar military experiences. I joined the Air Force, just out of high school in l948, stayed for four instructive non combat years and was discharged with a great disdain for the military establishment and its personnel. This was a peace time, strictly volunteer service and I certainly had no respect for my enlisted men colleagues who were for the most part dysfunctional/alcoholics who couldn’t possibly hold a job on the outside. (This was not as true of the officers.)
I was opposed to the Vietnam War and both wars we are currently engaged in. However, I had an epiphany reading the Junger book and his view of the men who risk their lives (albeit on two senseless wars) changed my view of them as individuals—and I do support them as individuals. As a matter of fact, my new attitude has motivated me to become an Official Volunteer at Operation Paperback http://www.operationpaperback.org/.
I’m not sure, Jimmy, how my remarks could be literally used by Conservatives. Who am I that they would quote? Liberals can grow, change and look forward; I think conservatives generally look backward.
Cheers,
Warren


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