I never would have bought this book for myself, but I got it for free (along with the Workbook) when I was in school. And so I read it. I don't remembI never would have bought this book for myself, but I got it for free (along with the Workbook) when I was in school. And so I read it. I don't remember the advice very well, but I remember wondering what the big deal was about this book. The advice felt like platitudes, and the generic "just try harder and you'll succeed" type advice is something every teen gets--and let's be honest here: how many teens are going to respond to this sort of advice? I didn't. I thought the advice was rather useless and generic.
But on the bright side, the book taught me what a paradigm is. So that's something, I guess. Although I learned the definition in school a couple years later, so I'm not sure I should give the book credit for this....more
I finished. I really, truly finished. I'm not sure you understand how happy I am to be done reading this trainwreck of a novel.
It took me three monthsI finished. I really, truly finished. I'm not sure you understand how happy I am to be done reading this trainwreck of a novel.
It took me three months, but I finished. Three months of shoddy writing and horrible characterization. Three months of reading about men constantly pounding their chests and grunting about how manly and dominating they are. Three months reading about simpering women who love being helpless slaves to Big Strong Men.
Honestly, though, it's a shame that Norman jumps the shark here, because if you strip the books of their stupid "slavery is good" undertones, and actually introduce decent writing, the main plot could be very, very good.
But it isn't, so I'm going to walk away from this series now before it has a chance to get worse....more
I have to agree with other reviewers that, unless you're into bondage and dominance/submission, you probably won't like this book. If you *are* into BI have to agree with other reviewers that, unless you're into bondage and dominance/submission, you probably won't like this book. If you *are* into BDSM, you might like it. Maybe. You don't really need to read any of the previous Gor books to be able to read this one, but you'll probably understand more of the references if you at least have some passing familiarity with what happened in the first few books.
In Captive of Gor, the main character is an unlikeable and passive-aggressive woman named Elinor (or El-in-or, as everyone on Gor calls her) who snubs and backstabs at every opportunity, and who switches between the mindsets of "I am free and a woman of Earth and I will never ever be a slave!" to "I'm a slave, let me be your slave!" with an almost unhealthy regularity. I think I know what Norman's trying to do--show that she isn't sure what she thinks of her lot in life, and that her self-view changes over the course of her being a slave, and so on--but it didn't work for me. And then you have the constant reminders of who people are. Inge, you will learn, is of the Scribes. Every time Inge, who is of the Scribes, is mentioned, you will be reminded that, hey, Inge is of the Scribes. This is done constantly. For every character. Constantly. The writing itself is also pretty bad, but it's an easy read, and it requires zero brainpower to get through. So that's a plus.
In the story, Elinor manages to be so unlikeable that she makes it hard for you to root for her, and to symapthize with her when she gets punished, because you end up feeling like she really did deserve it.
It's not a terrible book, all in all, but it's not anything remarkable. Go ahead and read it if you're so inclined, but I'd strongly suggest skipping the series entirely if you don't like dominance/submission, or if you intend to read it with a feminist outlook. Because, I assure you, there is NOTHING feminist about this series....more
The storyline in Outlaw is rather pointless, except maybe as a way to show how severely F'd up all the cities in Gor seem to be. It does this rather wThe storyline in Outlaw is rather pointless, except maybe as a way to show how severely F'd up all the cities in Gor seem to be. It does this rather well, though, so I guess that's a point in the book's favour. Outlaw is a self-contained story, so if you haven't read any other Gor books and are for some reason curious about this one, you can easily read it as a stand-alone.
The writing, as in Tarnsman of Gor, was decent at best, but the book dragged quite a bit, and it felt much longer than it really was. I ended up skimming over quite a few of the descriptions, and I seriously think that at least half of them could have been cut out without hurting the plot.
With regards to the plot, both male and female slavery are more apparent in Outlaw than they were in Tarnsman. So, if dominance/submission isn't your thing, you probably won't like the book that much. If it is your thing, you may be able to get past the writing and enjoy the book....more
This is the first book of the Gor series, and unlike the more recent Gor books, it actually has a plot. Having read a couple of Norman's later Gor booThis is the first book of the Gor series, and unlike the more recent Gor books, it actually has a plot. Having read a couple of Norman's later Gor books before getting to this one, I'm surprised at the incredible difference between this book and the dreck that was published later on in this series.
The writing here is decent at best, but the book manages to be entertaining in its own bizarre way. As a light, mindless read, you could do worse than this.
Generations ago, aliens called Hoots invaded Earth. Hoots have very weak legs, so they started breeding humans to use as mounts. Some humans resistedGenerations ago, aliens called Hoots invaded Earth. Hoots have very weak legs, so they started breeding humans to use as mounts. Some humans resisted and fled to the mountains where the Hoots don't care to pursue them, but others are still being actively bred and trained in Hoot compounds. There are the muscular Seattles, the lean and skinny Tennessees, and the in-betweens: the nothings, who are of no value to the Hoots.
Charley is a Seattle, the child of some of the most famous Seattles in history, and he's proud of it. His life goal is to be the best mount possible, and he's well on his way to his goal when he gets chosen as the mount of his new Little Master, a baby Hoot who happens to be the Hoots' future ruler. But when Charley's home compound is attacked by Wild Humans--wild humans led by Charley's escapee father--Charley's entire life is thrown on its head. Instead of learning to be a good mount, Charley must now learn how to be a good human.
The Mount is a hard book to rate. It's an uncomfortable book that takes a very hard look at predator-prey and symbiotic relationships, where humans are on the losing end of the relationship, and it's a book where you never quite know who to root for. Do you root for Charley, the brainwashed preteen who feels more comfortable with his Hoot host than his own people, and who touts his own lineage while simultaneously looking down at everyone who doesn't fit into his worldview? Do you root for Charley's father, a man who can never really articulate his feelings and motivations and who remains something of a mystery throughout the entire novel? Or do you root for Little Master, who as a Hoot and an alien would technically be a villain?
The Hoot's treatment of humans, and Charley's internalized distaste toward everyone who isn't a purebred Seattle, parallels some very prominent human tendencies, but it does so in a way that is both fascinating and slightly uncomfortable to read about. The book is written to highlight how a mount thinks, and it does this well. But the writing style disengages you at the same time. You can't really relate to the main character, because the character himself isn't allowed to relate to anything aside from how he has been taught is the proper way to think. This makes the book a surprisingly unemotional read. But the writing is strong, which I think makes up for it.
This wasn't a perfect book by any means. As mentioned, the disengaging writing made it hard to immerse myself in the story. Some of the technological parts seemed fairly unlikely as well (view spoiler)[How do airplanes still work after all these years? And how has the knowledge to fly them survived after so long? (hide spoiler)], but none of these really detracted from the book. For me, at least. This is definitely a book where you have to read it for yourself to see what you can take away from it.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more