Sam was far too self-centered. I know he was going through some shit because of what happened in the first book,Disappointed.
Nothing really happened.
Sam was far too self-centered. I know he was going through some shit because of what happened in the first book, but that's no reason not to notice your girlfriend, the supposed love of your life, is getting really sick.
Grace kept secrets from people for no reason and I don't buy her parents' sudden turnaround from absentee to actually giving a fuck and grounding her and checking up on her and making all these rules and boundaries, yet still being absent. And Grace is right, it's not like she's a barefoot pregnant homeless junkie, so they were way out of line on forbidding her from seeing Sam just because he was her first boyfriend. Jeez, no wonder she never brought another boy home before Sam.
Isabel was awesome, as always. I love her and all her flaws. I love her bitchiness and her cool detachedness. I even bought her vulnerability. I'd love to read of her. She's a beautiful broken character.
I didn't like Cole. I don't care if he's the hottest guy on two legs. I don't even care that he's quite a well rounded character. I just didn't like him. Arrogant assholes don't appeal to me. I totally bought his story, but I found it pointless. He was only useful in the last few pages, so his presence seemed like a) a waste and b) a balm for Isabel's internal ache. And Isabel deserves better than a hot arrogant guy who can't handle his life.
I didn't like the added points of view. Doubling the number of points of view from the last book was risky, anyway: but also making it change within the chapters so sometimes we swapped from one to the other every couple of pages? Not so cool. Sometimes I forgot whose point of view I was reading from.
And the plot?
It was obvious from the get go what the climax would be, and the rest of the book seemed like a character study without much depth rather than have anything interesting happening. I can remember a few plot elements, mostly to do with Isabel. Don't ask me what Sam or Cole did, because it wasn't important. And Grace wasn't as cool as she was in the first book.
I think I've come to the conclusion that Linger was a waste of my time. Which is a pity, because I really enjoyed Shiver, and I think Sam and Grace are really cute together. That's saying a lot because normally I hate male YA love interests. Seriously. Don't like any of them, except for Tucker from Unearthly.
I do want to read Forever, although I am hoping I can just ignore Linger and all of its wasted plot and just jump straight from Shiver. I'm saddened by it....more
The book is fairly long but there’s a severe lack of plot, or conflict, amongst most of the pages. Even the interesting things that happen that I do rThe book is fairly long but there’s a severe lack of plot, or conflict, amongst most of the pages. Even the interesting things that happen that I do remember only happened because they’re a natural part of what Grace is going through: reaching out to her friends and family. I only feel that the plot kicked in 350 pages into a nearly 500 page book.
I still feel that Sam and Grace’s relationship is extraordinarily sweet. I love them as a couple. I just love them. I never knew any teenage boys like Sam: most of them were oversexed or unsexed assholes, quite frankly; boys who would dump you for the next pretty thing that walks along. It’s nice to think that Sam’s maturity hit him earlier than normal teen boys. I can literally think of no teenage boys who would wonder if they have to start saving for a ring. I know a few young men (early twenties) who are as sweet as Sam and I’d like to think there are some teen boys like him, but the fact of the matter is that nice teen boys are often overlooked and nice people always finish last in the real world. Grace is very real to me as well, just everything about her. I love living in their relationship. They are boring when they are without each other, and they take my breath away when they are together. Definitely my favourite YA couple ever.
But once again, I feel like all this hard work over their passion and love and can't-live-without-you-ness is wasted, or at least superfluous, (view spoiler)[ when the first thing Grace does when she sticks in her human form long enough to do it is have a meaningless conversation with Cole rather than fling herself into Sam's arms. It reminds me of when Sam was cured in Shiver and he spends days stalking Grace rather than running right to her and shouting "It worked! I'm human and I love you!" (hide spoiler)]
I feel cheated out of Cole’s heroic redemption. I don’t like Cole. I don’t like famous people who have it all and still want more. Plenty of people want to trade lives with celebrities, it doesn’t seem right to me that celebrities should want to go back to their humdrum normal boring lives because they get sick of being famous (those not born into the business, the offspring of famous parents and therefore inheriting fame themselves does not count: they never had a choice). Cole should have died, quite frankly because he’s a selfish ass, and his last act was selfless. It would have been great redemption for his selfishness (view spoiler)[in forcing Victor to become a werewolf and then getting killed. Cole was responsible for him and he didn't look after him. The least he could do was sacrifice himself so the other wolves survived. (hide spoiler)]
By the way, I don't like Cole and Isabel. Isabel deserves better than him. She's not interested in him as a person at all, just as a hot guy. They have no chemistry deeper than their physical attraction. While that was enough to sustain me (along with Isabel's pure awesomeness) in Linger, I feel their relationship could have moved on. But neither of them changed. Whenever they spoke it was like they hated each other. I don't see how anything can come of that, and I don't want it to. I know they're both broken people, but I've thought that maybe the point is that Isabel needs a Sam and Cole needs a Grace, and the two of them together can't work it out because they're too broken and their pieces don't fit together (ooh that's good, I'm totally stealing that and putting it in a novel). I still think Isabel is really cool, maybe not so awesome as the two previous books because she didn't really do anything in this book except be a credit card and be mean to Cole. Also, if Grace can stand up to her parents, then I don't see why Isabel has to move to California. Unless she wants to. Which I don't really know, because if I were her I'd want to stay with my best friends rather than her parents. She's almost eighteen, anyway. If Grace and Sam can forgo parental units then so can she.
Some things didn’t make sense to me. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, because I would hate to have misread something in the earlier books:
THINGS WE LEARN IN FOREVER: It’s a year after Jack died (beginning of Shiver) according to Isabel. Cole has been missing for ten months (since some time in Shiver) according to the radio host. Grace was a wolf for seven weeks (end of Linger) according to Isabel.
Shiver happened at the start of winter. It kept getting colder, which is why Grace and Sam were desperate to keep him from shifting. I don’t know how long it was between Shiver and Linger but I took it to mean Linger was coming into the spring, because none of the other wolves ever shifted to human and needed to stay in Beck’s house for the summer – which, I had been led to believe, was a safe haven for all the werewolves and they all lived there when they were human. In Forever, it is explicitly stated that Grace was a wolf for seven weeks/two months, which means we’re well into the beginning of summer if not mid-summer itself. No one else is shifting except for Olivia, the newbie. Yet everyone keeps saying a year has passed since Sam and Grace first met, since Sam was cured, since Jack died.
I don’t think this is the real timeline. One year couldn’t have passed yet because there are new wolves that had shifted for the first time in Linger. They never turned human in Forever. I just don’t understand this timeline and it bugged me for the entire book. Grace would go on about how Sam was a boy when she met him SO long ago and now he’s a man, and Cole kept talking about how Isabel’s hair has grown like two inches, yet I remain convinced there’s a maximum of six months between Shiver and Forever. (hide spoiler)] So if you know what the timeline actually is, PLEASE comment and tell me because I just have no idea.
I didn't like how quickly the POV shifted. We'd get multiple people per chapter: why couldn't the chapter have been told entirely from the first person's POV and have them, you know, be insightful and guess how the other person was feeling rather than leaping into their head and tearing the tenuos bond I had with them. With each jump I had to reconnect and it just didn't work for me. longer POV jumps would have been better. The other problem was that the jumps would often happen right before something really interesting would happen, like an emotional epiphany, (view spoiler)[or Cole's experiments, or Beck's capture, (hide spoiler)] or... well... basically ANYTHING interesting. This is why there seemed to be no plot early on, because it kept jumping all over the place and missing what was actually happening.
But oh! Maggie's prose. Such beauty in those words. I love her. I worship her. I want to read all her other books just for her technique alone. She made me laugh, she almost made me cry. She made me love and hate her characters. The entire thing is just sweet, just nice and safe and calm.
I feel that by far the best novel was Shiver. I feel it stands alone purely on its merits. It broke my huge over-emotional little heart. Linger, not so much. A severe lack of plot hindered it. And Forever, despite its length, suffers from a little of both. It's half awesome with plot and the other half just... lingers. Hahaha I'm so fucking hilarious. Overall, I think maybe it would have been better if I hadn't read Linger and Forever, because Shiver was pretty great and these two kind of don't live up to that.
Not that I'm bitching about the ending of the series. I think it's perfectly acceptable. Endings are damn hard things to write, especially when it's the ending of a series and you have fans emotionally invested in more than one book. I liked the promise of the future, and although I loved Sam and Grace's relationship, I feel that it's pretty much going to be easy on them from now on. That's why there's no more story to tell.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
Given the author's spectacular homophobia, it almost pains me to admit that I very much enjoyed this book. My grandfather is Slavic, so I knew all aboGiven the author's spectacular homophobia, it almost pains me to admit that I very much enjoyed this book. My grandfather is Slavic, so I knew all about the Baba Yaga fairy tales. It was really cool to see that woven into the contemporary narrative. Ivan was a likeable character and cared for Katerina even when she was being an unreasonable bitch....more
The best character in this book was the cat who often changes his name, sometimes called Furry Purry, sometimes Cat Who Bites Priests. I'd have to reaThe best character in this book was the cat who often changes his name, sometimes called Furry Purry, sometimes Cat Who Bites Priests. I'd have to read it again to report some more funny names, but he was totally adorable.
The foundation of magic is strong and reliable. The culture is absolutely amazing. Even the bad guys' agenda is totally believable. The characters are interesting, especially the eldest brother and his romantic interest. No spoilers!
The only thing that was a let down was the climax. It was a bit... is that it?...more
It was an amazing book. So powerful, and incredibly emotional. It helped me personally, too, for reasoHow is anyone supposed to rate a book like this?
It was an amazing book. So powerful, and incredibly emotional. It helped me personally, too, for reasons I won't go into it. But I did not like it. I can not bring myself to like it. There is not much to like, and the terrifying thing is that it's a true story.
When I say there is not much to like, I mean the writing itself is fine, it's the memories that are horrible.
Yet I think it is one of those memoirs that a lot of people need to read. Especially people in their safe little bubble where only first world problems apply. Especially people who have gone through similar things.
I reiterate: this book was amazing, and if you're ready to face real-world issues and accept that awful things happen, sometimes for no reason, maybe you're ready for this book....more
This is another one of those books where I say it is difficult to like.
But this is for another reason.
I have no doubt that some of the things reportedThis is another one of those books where I say it is difficult to like.
But this is for another reason.
I have no doubt that some of the things reported by the memoirist actually happened, but the focus on the first book is the torture, and the focus on the subsequent two books in this anthology is also the childhood torture even though the focus should be on the life he was living at the time as an adult.
Pelzer is a very savvy businessman and knows what sells. He also knows how to sell himself. He can't remember what his mother looks like yet he can remember in graphic detail the torture she inflicted on him.
I didn't enjoy this book at all but it's certainly an eye opener to what happens to children out there....more
I was looking forward to reading this book, but it’s even better than the blurb makes it sound. It’s better than I expecteAlso appears on Lissa Reads.
I was looking forward to reading this book, but it’s even better than the blurb makes it sound. It’s better than I expected it to be.
I don’t normally like retellings, because most of them aren’t very original. How can you be original, when you’re basically re-working someone else’s work and passing it off as your own? (*cough*fanfiction*cough*) (I don’t actually have a problem with fanfiction, only fanfiction that then gets published and tries to pass itself off as original fiction.)
But Cinder, to me, is highly original. It’s an interesting book. Half of it is predictable because it’s a re-worked Cinderella myth – so you know there’s going to be a handsome prince, an evil stepmother, and ball and a missing shoe. You know roughly how it’s going to go down. The Cinderella myth is so well recognised that we can put those elements to the back of our minds and start identifying elements that don’t belong. This is where the book becomes predictable: in the foreshadowing.
The original part of the book is in its protagonist, Cinder. She’s a cyborg, in case the cover and blurb didn’t clue you in. I have a not-so-secret confession: I FREAKING LOVE CYBORGS. I love the whole question of whether the transformation is voluntary or not and how one comes to terms with that. Cinder struggles with her identity all throughout the novel. She struggles with a past she doesn’t remember and a future she doesn’t want. I loved reading about her. Normally I don’t like books written in third person POV – I feel more intimate and involved in first person. And I admit, the point of view changes did at first make me suspicious. They are necessary, of course: it’s limited POV from Cinder, and when Cinder’s not there to make an observation we still need to know what’s going on. It’s well handled, and although at first I felt a bit jerked around, I soon adjusted and got on with enjoying the story.
Enjoying the story is really what it’s all about. Forget how predictable it is –it is really only predictable because of foreshadowing – and readers need foreshadowing so authors don’t just suddenly throw the big information out – and you’ll really enjoy how beautiful the prose, the characterisation, the worldbuilding and the originality is. Meyer is a master, and certainly more capable than her more famous name-sharer. She’s taken an age-old fairy story and really made it her own in stunning style.
Prince Kai makes it to my shelf of awesome YA male love interests. He’s so genuine and unassuming. He’s swoon-worthy and, despite being royalty, very realistic. I consider myself a republican, but I’d follow his monarchy any day. (view spoiler)[That’s not meant to sound as dirty as it does, I mean it quite literally. (hide spoiler)]
The worldbuilding is one of a kind. I even asked a question about something that I should have waited and found out for myself, because it did get addressed (view spoiler)[Why was everyone so afraid of the Lunars? (hide spoiler)]. I really enjoyed finding out about this world, and how it came to be, and what the fuck the Lunars were.
My ONE teeny tiny problem with the book is something very small. I like to have emotional reactions to books. When a book makes me cry, you can pretty much guarantee it’s going to be a 5 star ratings. (view spoiler)[When Peony died (hide spoiler)] I didn’t have the emotional reaction I should have had. I was saddened, yes, even though this was a character I didn’t particularly like. This is because I had grown attached to this character through Cinder. I was more upset when (view spoiler)[Iko was mangled (hide spoiler)] but I was pretty pleased when I realised Cinder (view spoiler)[still had her personality chip (hide spoiler)]. However, in places I laughed out loud, especially when (view spoiler)[Adri fainted at the ball (hide spoiler)].
Did I mention how much I loved Iko? She was surprisingly well-written for an android. I want one!
Back to Cinder! She’s awesome. Did I mention that? I mean… REALLY awesome. She’s totally one of the most capable and independent YA heroines I’ve ever read. She gives as good as she gets, and despite being the Cinderella character, doesn’t weakly let her stepmother walk all over her. Sure, there’s a relationship dynamic that you can’t ignore which often leads to Cinder being less well off, but that’s conflict, right? That’s part of the Cinderella myth. Poor, downtrodden, dressed-in-rags Cinderella goes to the ball and dances with the prince, much to the chagrin of the stepmother.
I am for sure looking forward to the next three books in this series. I want to see how masterfully Meyer handles the other three myths, and how they intertwine with Cinder’s story and the Lunar Chronicles.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
This was going to be four stars and then I read the last half-dozen sentences. Some stories can be just very good until they make the point, and the pThis was going to be four stars and then I read the last half-dozen sentences. Some stories can be just very good until they make the point, and the point creeps up on you at the end and whacks you over the head like an unexpected frying pan attack.
Yeah, it's good, the world building is quite adept for such a short piece, four stars, four stars, end of story BANG! Five stars.
A heartbreaking look at mental illness from a fragile mind in an image-obsessed industry.
This was a very touching and honest memoir that really showedA heartbreaking look at mental illness from a fragile mind in an image-obsessed industry.
This was a very touching and honest memoir that really showed the struggles de Rossi went through trying to control her weight.
It's well written and occasionally I had to put it down to stop myself from crying at her pain. It's not just that this is an honest look at eating disorders, but de Rossi isn't afraid of portraying herself as less than perfect. Considering this is the image she strove so hard to achieve, this is quite an improvement.
Strangely enough, a memoir about a woman struggling with controlling her weight and battling bulimia and anorexia has only made me more comfortable with my own weight issues. She's right when she says that intelligence and ability should be valued above appearance. The media industries have got it all wrong.
I only wish there was more writing about her struggle with her sexuality as well. I only really took notice of de Rossi when she starred in the short-lived Better Off Ted. By this time she was already married to her wife Ellen DeGeneres. I would have liked to know more about their relationship and how DeGeneres helped de Rossi become the beautiful women's health and equal rights spokeswoman she is today.
As it was, there was a few behind the scenes glimpses of Ally McBeal, a TV show I did not watch when it was on. The behind the scenes mostly focused on the clothing and how it fit her ever-decreasing body, however, not cast politics.
If you enjoy celebrity memoirs, or memoirs about people with mental illnesses and eating disorders, or memoirs about struggling sexuality, you'll probably enjoy this. de Rossi has an engaging voice and clear, elegant writing. She's not afraid to bare her soul in the hope that this memoir can perhaps help and inspire other people with their similar struggles....more