When it comes to the topic of the divine council and the unseen realm stuff, I guess I kind of felt a good majority of people already had a general grWhen it comes to the topic of the divine council and the unseen realm stuff, I guess I kind of felt a good majority of people already had a general grasp on it. About a year ago I was given the opportunity to preach at our church and I spoke on some basics of the divine council view (view sermon here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV9P_...), and found out that the understanding was nowhere near as common as I guess I thought it was.
A month or so later I was asked if I had checked out Michael Heiser's stuff, of whom I had never heard of, and was glad to see I was on a lot of the same paths that he was. So, when I heard of this book coming out, I HAD to get it. It was everything I hoped it would be and MORE.
Obviously I cannot say I agree totally with all of his points of conclusions, but that is more the exception than the rule. I really enjoy the way the books continues to build upon itself. He makes a point, then brings the point back upon the next chapter and builds on it. As the foundation knowledge grows, you can begin seeing things even before he points them out. But when he does point things out, or show the connection with previous points, it can at time becomes quite mind-blowing.
I would have to write my own book to even begin to lay out the many points that highlighted my reading of this book. First off, the book is very easy to read, and is not written as a scholarly journal. Very well written and very easy to grasp.
Part 3 of the book struck me first as being a bit of what I knew, and a whole lot of great additions to it. Dealing with Diving Transgressions, it begins to unfold the whole battle for power in the unseen realm, and dispels much of the myths behind what we term today as the fall of Satan. But also begins the discussion of cosmic geography, which as we progress through the book begins to click more and more, making so many obscure verse begin to come together in new ways.
Moving into part 5, the "Conquest and Failure" where dealing with the giants are covered, understanding and seeing the geography made so much more sense of so many other passages.
Part 6 is where I started really seeing many new understanding of scriptures from both the new and old testaments. Especially when the geography of things like the mountain of Bashan and the discussions on Baal, those really started me firing on all cylinders at times.
Closing out, he started dealing with the Kingdom now - which was where he begins dealing with the story of the New Testament, and really brings it all together. However, the weakest part of the whole book was the last section on the "Kingdom Not Yet." True, this book is not a book on eschatology, and so he only scratches the surface, but his approach appears to take for granted a literal, physical end-time view that is prevalent in the church today, which I feel ignores a more historic, spiritual look that the Hebrews would have grasped and understood. But again, this was a brief part of the book, and not totally needed for the wealth of so much that was laid out before.
I recommend this book to any serious Bible student. I will warn you though, if you are unfamiliar with the idea of the divine council, the realm of the elohim, the two Yahweh idea, the fact that the Bible is not about God vs a being named Satan, and such related topic, then this book will be an even bigger mind-blowing experience. But in a good way. A restoration of the ancient Hebrew thought on scripture is so much needed today - and grasping it will make the Bible take on new life. As chapter one rightly starts out, you will truly be "reading your Bible again for the first time."...more
A great little book that turned out to be shorter than expected. What I mean is, as I read the Kindle edition, I could see I was only 40% done, and thA great little book that turned out to be shorter than expected. What I mean is, as I read the Kindle edition, I could see I was only 40% done, and then a few pages later, the END. The whole last half of the title is an extensive collection of footnotes and scriptural references (written out fully) so it took up a lot of space. So I finished this in half the time I thought it would take.
This title is made up of a bunch of short articles Heiser wrote for publications in order to show people interesting tidbits of overlooked and usually misunderstood aspects of the Scriptures. Bringing in cultural, historical and Ancient Near Eastern understandings he makes commonly obscure verses and stories come to light for the modern less informed reader.
A great title to start with for people who may not want to jump right into his larger and more complex scholarly titles - you'll most likely still learn quite a lot here....more
This was a truly enjoyable read. I have read a handful of great theologically based books on giants in the past couple years, including Giants: Sons oThis was a truly enjoyable read. I have read a handful of great theologically based books on giants in the past couple years, including Giants: Sons of the God and The Sons of God and the Nephilim, so the bulk of the giant related information covered in this Godawa book was not necessarily new. However, the difference with this book and the others, is that this one deals with a wider range subjects. It looks at the Divine Council and all kinds of other topics related to the battle between the seed of the serpent and the seed of Eve.
This book is just an expanded upon volume containing all of the historical appendices from his fantasy series Chronicles of the Nephilim. When brought together like this, they provide a good amount of background information explaining the historical basis and reasoning behind topics covered in his novels. And in the end, we are presented with a great source for understanding a lot of details pulled from the ancient Hebrew understandings of many biblical passages than have stumped many commentators in recent centuries.
People who wish to ignore the overwhelming evidence of the historical Hebrew and early church understanding of the Divine Council, Sons of God (Gen. 6) as being angels, the Watchers, Nephilim, and the idea of giants, will obviously dislike and poorly rate this book.
The book covers and discusses a lot of historical and scholarly topics, though it never crosses the line into becoming a dry scholarly read itself.
There were a handful of smaller topics that Godawa covers here, that over the years I had come to kind of lean towards believing, but had never studied them out or heard others promoting a similar understanding. So for me, I found some validations for my thoughts at times.
Sadly, the majority of the topics covered in this book will probably be so alien to today's average church goer, that they may be viewed as purely fantasy like the novels. The general consensus of the ancient Hebrews as well as the early church has been pretty much lost and forgotten on these things, and so, many today may be quite disturbed by them. However, once you begin to see this whole overarching story as it is revealed and plays out through Scripture, the whole of Scripture takes on new meaning.
So, while I feel a book like Giants: Sons of the God by Van Dorn is one of the better books on giants in general, covering the topic both from a biblical and recently modern historical view of the evidence of giants, this book by Godawa covers so much more, bringing a whole story together that other books do not.
So, as of now, this is my new go-to book when it comes to suggested reading for someone wanting to consider this subject....more
Overall a very good book. I read it knowing little to nothing of the author or his background (still don't) but for the most part no real definitive bOverall a very good book. I read it knowing little to nothing of the author or his background (still don't) but for the most part no real definitive bias of views seems present, as it is mostly an academic view at the topic of apocalyptic.
I was impressed with the section looking at the difference between apocalyptic and eschatology - which was quite helpful in understanding the differences. Most of us seem to consider the two to be synonymous, when they are in fact different. While eschatology is a look at the last things, apocalyptic is a look into a non-earthly realm - usually the heavenly realm. So something that is apocalyptic is not necessarily related to anything dealing with the end of anything.
The bulk of the book then looks through a plethora of Hebrew apocalyptic writings, biblical and others, to show similarities and comparisons in thoughts, understandings, and beliefs at different times.
The only weakness I felt was the section on dating the apocalyptic writings, and some of the thoughts behind dating. It seems at time he was overlooking the possibility of prophetic thoughts, and instead assumed those things were written after-the-fact and/or influenced by later times and cultures. I found it odd to dismiss (at time) the idea of prophetic writing.
Aside from that the book contained quite a bit of good information....more
Thoroughly enjoyable. I too believe the modern church has lost track of the amazing ways the ancient church used the Psalms in corporate worship and lThoroughly enjoyable. I too believe the modern church has lost track of the amazing ways the ancient church used the Psalms in corporate worship and life. Wright points out many great ideas behind their use, and the benefits it can bring. I may be making more of this than others, and it may be because I come from a background of years ago being in an "exclusive psalmody" in worship denomination. This book does not promote such an idea, but still shows the importance of the Psalms in general.
A quick and easy read of only around 37 pages, with a good amount of those being large quotations from familiar Scripture passages. In essence, BernarA quick and easy read of only around 37 pages, with a good amount of those being large quotations from familiar Scripture passages. In essence, Bernard first seeks to reveal that the term Jew and Judaism did not first come into existences until after the first temple was destroyed and the people were exiled to Babylon.
By that time, the people called by those terms had become a people in their practices and ceremonies that were vastly different than what we find of the prophets and leaders of the hundreds of years prior to the destruction of that first temple in 597 BC.
From there he leads us down a path of lamentations and judgment falling upon the people, and then the eventual promise in Ezekiel of a resurrection from their death and restoration into a single nation (stick) under the Davidic prince of Yahweh with a new temple.
The last section looks at the intertestamental period only briefly, and leads into the arrival and rejection of Jesus as the expected Messiah.
This is the shortest volume in a four volume set for this series, and lays a foundation for the history of the Jews that will surely be built upon in the other volumes. ...more
Another great and well-researched book on the topic of Genesis 6. I just previously finished Van Dorn's volume on the topic Giants: Sons of the God whAnother great and well-researched book on the topic of Genesis 6. I just previously finished Van Dorn's volume on the topic Giants: Sons of the God which I found to be more in-depth and exhaustive in ways, I still found Chaffey's work to add additional information to the discussion.
As expected, he lists the alternate views, and then disassembles them by showing their weaknesses. In the end, only the fallen angel view can match all of the criteria of original language, other use in scripture, as well as other historical writings. The historical writings sections had some pieces I was unfamiliar with too, which was nice to see.
In both this and Van Dorn's book, they go the extra mile to show that there is a better than good possibility that God had his people on a mission to wipe out this giant threat, as is evident from the battles He sent them on. If this is true (and evidence seems to point that way), then it is a game changer when it comes to understanding the OT and all that was happening as far as the people being sent to wipe out whole people groups.
I give this book two thumbs up as a great starting point for the discussion of Gen. 6, the Sons of God and the Nephilim. ...more
Years ago I had done some study in the Gen. 6 issue about the "sons of god" and have thought to writing a book of my findings. Well, I am glad to sayYears ago I had done some study in the Gen. 6 issue about the "sons of god" and have thought to writing a book of my findings. Well, I am glad to say I can remove that idea from my to-do list, because this book far exceeds a anything I could imagine writing. This is my first Kindle book ever read, so I was not able to feel the end of the book coming, and when I thought there was nothing else he could possibly say, I would look to see I wasn't even halfway done.
When the main section did finally come to an end, I still found I was only half done. The amount of extra appendices as well as the endnotes added even more information of great importance to the study.
If you're looking for a book that pretty much seals the deal of proving the angels angle, and one that deals with every contrary argument, then this is for you. On top of that there is just so much more, making this a major tool in the discussion.
A great amount of information is provided about everything from giants in mythology and folklore, to stories passed down from all over the globe of historic dealings with giants. A wealth of information on the topic all in one place. Excellent....more