As the subtitle says, this was a memoir of a German U-boat crewman who served during WWII. U-boat service was dangerous. During WWII, about 37,000 GerAs the subtitle says, this was a memoir of a German U-boat crewman who served during WWII. U-boat service was dangerous. During WWII, about 37,000 Germans served on U-boats. Only 6,000 of them survived the war. Despite the danger, the U-boat service attracted some of the German Navy’s best recruits.
Hans Goebeler admits that his family initially supported Hitler, because the Weimar Republic wasn’t doing much for them economically, and his father, who had been a POW in Russia and then the Soviet Union during WWI, was very much set against the Communists. Add in a Grandfather filling young Hans with stories of the glory of the Franco-Prussian War, and you have a young man eager to join his country’s armed forces.
Despite the fact that Goebeler’s U-boat was on the wrong side of the war, it was easy to identify with the men on board. They were, after all, just serving their country. They acted like professional sailors, regardless of their political beliefs. True, they sank a few Allied merchant ships, but they usually surfaced afterward to aid any survivors. It was war, yes, but with a touch of chivalry, at least under Goebeler’s first skipper. Under his second skipper, the unlikeable, unreasonable ship captain became part of the crew’s enemy. They also had to deal with extensive sabotage by the dock workers in the French port of Lorient. During most of 1943, U-505 was being repaired. Just when they thought everything was fixed, they would do a test dive and discover a leak, or find a small hole leaking oil, or some other problem that would force them to return to port before they’d really started their patrol. This happened multiple times. Reading this, I’d think “well done, saboteurs, you’ve kept that boat out of the war for months” but I could also understand the crew’s frustration at having to turn around again and again and again.
Life aboard a WWII sub or U-boat wasn’t pleasant. Water dripped everywhere, there was no privacy (the toilet was a bucket by the diesel engines), and no baths. Fresh food quickly spoiled, and what they ate when it was gone lacked balanced nutrients. Equipment wasn’t dependable even in the best of times. Torpedoes didn’t always work, even if aimed correctly, and reloading them was heavy, backbreaking labor. And that was before you were attacked by an airplane or had depth charges rolled on top of you. I was impressed by how much a U-boat could take and still not sink. In some ways, it reminded me of stories about B-17s taking lots of hits and still limping home. Though they didn’t know it at the time, the German Navy also operated under the disadvantage of having their codes broken by the British.
The memoir had its light moments. For example, while the crew was in port, they’d often take naps when they were supposed to be working on the bilge. Someone would be sure to tap a pipe every few minutes so the officers wouldn’t know the men were sleeping off their hangovers. Or when U-505 picked up some German sailors after their surface ship was sunk and had them on board for a few days, “they couldn’t understand why we enjoyed serving on a vessel that sank several times a day. We couldn’t understand why they enjoyed serving on a boat that couldn’t dive to escape the enemy.”
In the summer of 1944, U-505 was captured by the US Navy (the first enemy vessel captured by the US Navy intact on the high seas since the War of 1812). The Americans didn’t want word to leak out that they’d captured the ship—and its secrets, and its codes—so the crew weren’t allowed to write to their families to tell them they’d survived, and they were isolated while in POW camps.
Considering the fact that the book was written by a sailor, the language was fairly clean. I’d still recommend it only for older readers though, as there is plenty of information about how sailors entertain themselves while in port. Goebeler was never detailed about his time with the “mademoiselles,” especially during the first half of the book, but during the second half I got the impression he was bragging a bit about his prowess with the ladies. Since he was paying most of the women for their company, I wasn’t impressed. (Not that I would have been impressed anyway. I’m of the opinion that such activities should be saved for married couples, though I’ve also read enough to know many people don’t agree with me, especially during wartime.)
Overall, I’d recommend the book for anyone wondering what life was like aboard a WWII U-boat. The book was informative, interesting, and a good glimpse at the other side of the war....more
This book is organized into four parts: two on the Western Front (written by Geofffrey Jukes), one on the Eastern Front (by Peter Simkins), and one onThis book is organized into four parts: two on the Western Front (written by Geofffrey Jukes), one on the Eastern Front (by Peter Simkins), and one on everything happening around the Mediterranean (by Michael Hickey). Full of good information, but like any book trying to tell the entire history of WWI, it was only able to scratch the surface. ...more
A couple years ago my husband read a few books on pre-Colombian connections between the New World and the Old World, so I’d heard of the mound builderA couple years ago my husband read a few books on pre-Colombian connections between the New World and the Old World, so I’d heard of the mound builders, Haplogroup X mitochondrial DNA, and the Smithsonian Institution’s dismissal of artifacts that didn’t fit existing archeological theories. Kudos to Gunderson for writing an entertaining novel about it. Gunderson provided an interesting narrator, Matt (Matilda) Howard, and kept the story moving at a good pace. It wasn’t so gripping that I couldn’t put it down, but I never got bored.
Here’s my favorite thing about this book: most LDS fiction writers follow the theory that the Book of Mormon peoples must have lived in MesoAmerica, because that’s where all the advanced ancient civilizations in the Americas were, right? Not really. There are actually some great candidate peoples around the Great Lakes. (I don’t think she actually mentions the Hopewell or Adena tribes in the book, but if you’re curious, you can Google them.) My belief in the Book of Mormon isn’t based on archeological evidence, but I think the Great Lakes theory makes more sense then the MesoAmerica theory, and I’m happy to see a novel that takes that theory and runs with it.
Here’s my least favorite thing about the book: the ending. (view spoiler)[As soon as I hit the part about an upcoming lecture on DNA, I figured Matt would learn about DNA evidence suggesting some Native American tribes from the Great Lakes region had Middle Eastern origins, and then she’d either get university support to study the mound builders and the cave Mr. Jones showed her, or she’d decide finding the truth was more important than her job, and she’d bring to light the fact that North America had advanced civilizations with connections to the Old World long before Columbus or the Vikings. Nope. She learned about the DNA, passed her information over to the DNA scientists, and went home to make mashed potatoes from scratch. While I’m glad Matt was putting effort into motherhood, I felt a little cheated that she stopped her search for the truth. It was like Indian Jones had saved Marion, but let the Nazis have the lost ark. Or just told some Army intelligence people where the ark was hidden and let them go save it. And the argument that “well, that’s what’s happened in history” doesn’t work for me, because the information on Old World/New World diffusion is out there. (Take firmlds.org, for example. It’s hardly an par with a prestigious academic journal, but the information is available.) (hide spoiler)] A goodreads search shows that this isn’t the only book with Matt Howard as narrator, so maybe the ending works better for someone who has read the other books.
Overall, I’d recommend the book if you like watching sarcastic/witty college professors piecing together mysteries. Matt digs through books and digs through the dirt to find her information. The book doesn’t have any real villains, and usually novels without bad guys don’t work for me, but this one did. It’s labeled historical fiction for the Whitney Awards, but most of it takes place over a few years starting in 1999, so it doesn’t feel like historical fiction (that’s not a complaint, just an observation).["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
I’ve come across W.E. Fairbairn’s name before because he helped train OSS agents during WWII, so when a friend recommended this book it caught my inteI’ve come across W.E. Fairbairn’s name before because he helped train OSS agents during WWII, so when a friend recommended this book it caught my interest. Prior to reading it, most of my knowledge about Shanghai in the 1920s and 1930s was limited to the opening scenes of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. (Pathetic, I know—not the movie, but my ignorance.) This book certainly made me want to learn more. It started with a chapter on Shanghai’s international settlement and then went into information about its police forces. The writing was good and the frequent pictures and maps were great. I wish the book had been longer....more
A few years ago I read a very similar book, Hadassah: One Night With the King, so naturally I found myself comparing the two books. Both added fiction to flesh out the story but did a good job following the Biblical account, and both writers are competent at their craft. I preferred Hadassah. It's darker, but I thought that tone fit well for a novel about harems and genocide and wars against the Greeks.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a novel about Esther for your 12-year old, Moore's version is probably the one to pick. Same if you prefer pretty endings, since Moore ends her book in a happy place, before (view spoiler)[Xerxes's assassination. (hide spoiler)]["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
What I liked: There were some gripping true stories that I hadn’t heard before. The author served in OSS during WWII, so sheProbably about 3.5 stars.
What I liked: There were some gripping true stories that I hadn’t heard before. The author served in OSS during WWII, so she knew her subject. The book was arranged by area rather than strictly by chronology, and that organization worked well for this project. I also liked that she didn’t wait until the epilogue to say what happened to the women she wrote about. Instead, she explained what happened to them right after she highlighted their careers, while their stories were still fresh in the reader’s mind.
What I didn’t like: Some parts were a little dull. It felt like the author was trying to string together brief statements on all the women she interviewed, even when their work was fairly routine (routine as in important, but not necessarily interesting). I also felt the author spent too much effort highlighting all the OSS officers whose families were broken over the course of the war. Perhaps she was trying to make her situation (she and her pre-war husband both survived the war, but their marriage did not) appear normal....more
This is one of those books that’s been sitting on my bookshelf for years, a gift from someone sometime in the last fifteen years. Just read it (maybeThis is one of those books that’s been sitting on my bookshelf for years, a gift from someone sometime in the last fifteen years. Just read it (maybe not for the first time). At 90 pages, this is hardly a comprehensive overview of WWI, but it’s not meant to be. Good organization, the limited text was well-written, and lots of interesting pictures. A good option for middle school students or anyone who wants to know more about WWI and only has a few hours to spend on research....more
This book revolves around WWII’s D-day deception schemes. It has a wide cast of characters, but the primary ones are Catherine Praider, a half French/This book revolves around WWII’s D-day deception schemes. It has a wide cast of characters, but the primary ones are Catherine Praider, a half French/half English woman who goes into occupied France for SOE (British wartime espionage and sabotage agency), and T. F. O’Neill, an American major serving in London with the office in charge of hoodwinking the Nazis. (Yes, the overall premise is similar to the one I picked for my first novel, Espionage. A goodreads friend pointed out the similarities and that’s how this book ended up on my to-read list. Both books are inspired by Operation Fortitude, but have different feels, styles, and fictional additions.)
I thought the most impressive thing about this novel was the author’s thorough research. I’ve done some reading on D-day, the deceptions the Allies used leading up to it, SOE operations in France, and WWII-era coding and radio techniques. I didn’t notice anything in Collin’s book that didn’t match what I’ve read.
The style of the book is all-encompassing. Scenes are written from the point of view of Catherine, T. F., most of the people they work with, Eisenhower, Hitler, Gestapo agents, and low-ranking Americans manning posts in Africa to pick up Berlin’s transmissions to Tokyo. The style added to the overall historical picture, but it did take away from the connection with the main characters. It’s a history-driven book with a good plot, rather than plot-driven book with focused, compelling central characters.
Who will like this book? Readers who enjoy stories with spies, double-agents, triple-agents, betrayal, gray worlds, twists, and lots of well-researched history will be interested in looking this one up.
Who should avoid this book? Readers who like clean reads may want to look elsewhere. There is some swearing, and way too much detail about the characters’ love lives (lust lives, at least in some cases, is probably a more accurate term). For example, (view spoiler)[I had a hard time buying Catherine’s romance. Hopping into bed with someone she just met and thinking she’s in love with him? Not an uncommon occurrence in this genre, but moral implications aside, I always find it strange the otherwise careful, security-conscious spies will let their guard down so much. (hide spoiler)] The characters are complicated, which I liked, but the protagonists weren’t always admirable. And although the Allies win the war, (view spoiler)[most of the characters don’t have a happy ending, so fans of happy endings might be unsatisfied. (hide spoiler)]["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
I have a good friend in the Washington, D.C. area who visits Audie Murphy’s grave every time she goes to Arlington, so this book has been on my to-reaI have a good friend in the Washington, D.C. area who visits Audie Murphy’s grave every time she goes to Arlington, so this book has been on my to-read list for a while.
I enjoy memoirs that can bring out several extreme emotions, and this one, written by America’s most decorated WWII combat vet, makes the list. Gritty description, witty banter, heart-rending tragedy. I laughed with the men and the way they teased each other, and I might have cried when (view spoiler)[Brandon got it. (Before his death, Brandon would pass letters from his little girl around to his friends: Deer daddy i am at school but the teecher is not looking . . . when are you coming home i miss you. Poor kid. Her daddy never came home.) (hide spoiler)]
It’s amazing Murphy survived the war, but surviving was hard on him when so many of his friends were killed or wounded. After the war, Murphy was haunted by his memories, and it’s easy to understand why.
It was interesting to watch Murphy change from a smart-alec grunt to an experienced, somewhat isolated jr. officer. Here’s a quote from the fighting in the Colmar pocket, when he sent his men back in the face of an overwhelming German advance, but stayed forward himself to direct artillery fire and found a working machine gun on a tank destroyer: (view spoiler)[Later I am told that the burning tank destroyer, loaded with gasoline and ammunition, was expected to blow up any minute. That was why the enemy tanks gave it a wide berth and the infantrymen could not conceive of a man’s using it for cover. I do not know about that. For the time being my imagination is gone; and my numbed brain is intent only on destroying. I am conscious only that the smoke and the turret afford a good screen, and that, for the first time in three days, my feet are warm.
Murphy (and the artillery he called in) turned back the attack. Murphy doesn’t mention it in the book, but he won a Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions that day. (hide spoiler)]
If you’re looking for a big-picture book on the campaigns in Sicily, Italy, and Southern France, this isn’t it. But if you’re wondering what life was like for the men in the foxholes, this is one to add to your to-read list.
Two notes on language: 1) If English isn’t your first language, be aware that much of the dialog involves uneducated lingo, which might make it hard to understand. 2) Typical for troops, lots of swearing, though it was originally published in 1949, so the strongest curses are absent.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>...more
I had high hopes for this book. Overall, it offered a lot of facts on an interesting subject, but it came off as dry and ultimately disappointing. ManI had high hopes for this book. Overall, it offered a lot of facts on an interesting subject, but it came off as dry and ultimately disappointing. Many passages read something like this: “So-and-so spied for country X and was arrested by such-and-such agency on this date and executed on that date.” That’s a bit of an exaggeration—some of the accounts actually stretched into multiple paragraphs. But, in general, it read like a catalog of facts. Morton no doubt did a great deal of research, and many names appear, but only briefly. I found myself comparing it to a book of the same name (without the subtitle) by Bill Price. If you’re reading for pleasure, I’d recommend Price’s book—it’s short and tells the stories of several spies in an interesting way. If you’re looking for something more comprehensive, Morton’s book might be a good choice. If anyone can suggest something that manages to be interesting and comprehensive, I’d love a recommendation (bonus if the book is either still in print or fairly easy to get a copy of)....more
A very short book with some interesting stories. It’s not the definitive book on espionage during WWI, but at only 71 pages and for 99 cents on the kiA very short book with some interesting stories. It’s not the definitive book on espionage during WWI, but at only 71 pages and for 99 cents on the kindle, I thought it was worth the investment in time and money. I liked that Price was careful to point out what was fact and what was legend. Left me wanting to find a more detailed book on the subject. 4 stars might be rounding up a bit, but the story about the American spy who hid documents in his hollowed-out wooden leg was pretty cool . . ....more
An interesting first-person account of a young OSS agent (Office of Strategic Services—the CIA’s precursor) who slipped into Rome just before the landAn interesting first-person account of a young OSS agent (Office of Strategic Services—the CIA’s precursor) who slipped into Rome just before the landings at Anzio (January 1944) and ended up staying until Rome was liberated (June 1944). He was at the top of the chain, so his work mostly involved shifting through all the information (and there was lots of it) in an attempt to check accuracy, avoid duplication, and pick out only the most important information to send to US 5th Army. He couldn’t send it all because if his radio operator stayed on the air too long, German direction-finding units would no doubt find and arrest him.
I thought the first part of the book was the most interesting—when Radio Vittoria was still functioning and they were relaying large amounts of useful information to the army. But then (view spoiler)[the Germans got the radio and Peter and his friends spent most of their time drinking or attending parties so that if the Germans (or Fascist Italians) investigated them, they’d think they were just playboys. I was a little surprised that people involved in high-stakes espionage would allow themselves to get drunk while surrounded by Nazis and Fascists and rival intelligence organizations, but they somehow managed to survive (most of them). (hide spoiler)]
I think my favorite article was "Helping Children Recognize the Holy Ghost," by Merrilee Browne Boyack, about how we learn and receive inspiration inI think my favorite article was "Helping Children Recognize the Holy Ghost," by Merrilee Browne Boyack, about how we learn and receive inspiration in different ways. Great article for mothers (fathers too) and primary teachers!
I also love that when I glanced through the other reviews, most everyone had a different part that really stuck out for them. The magazine has something for everyone, I guess....more
The book was beautifully written, with interesting themes of friendship, sacrifice, and Machiavellian intelligence officers. I’ve read several books aThe book was beautifully written, with interesting themes of friendship, sacrifice, and Machiavellian intelligence officers. I’ve read several books about SOE and German-occupied France, and Wein did a good job with the historical accuracy.
A note for my friends who enjoy clean fiction: this one's a little on the gritty side, and includes frequent swearing and a few men with wandering hands....more
November 2013: Just listened to part one, and then our road trip was over and I didn’t have time to fit in the second half before the CDs were due bacNovember 2013: Just listened to part one, and then our road trip was over and I didn’t have time to fit in the second half before the CDs were due back at the library. Slower paced than my normal fiction preferences, but the writing was well-done and it offered an interesting look at Hawaiian culture in the mid 1800s.
April 2014: Read the last half of the book for my Whitney reading. The last third of the book was definitely my favorite. Very touching. I had mixed feelings about the epilogue. It as a fitting way for the book to end, but (view spoiler)[I have lots of friends who have struggled with infertility and adopted a child, and I can't see any of them giving said child back to their biological parents without a fight, even if they were blessed with more children. In real life, I think a situation like that would cause more pain than healing. (hide spoiler)]["br"]>["br"]>...more
What do you do when you’re a relatively small group of light aircraft carriers, destroyers, and destroyer escorts and you’re suddenly faced with the bWhat do you do when you’re a relatively small group of light aircraft carriers, destroyers, and destroyer escorts and you’re suddenly faced with the biggest ships in the Japanese Navy? Japanese ships that are faster, sturdier, and have guns that can fire long before you’ll be in range to fire back?
A) Curse Admiral Halsey for chasing a decoy group of Japanese ships and leaving your flank exposed.
B) Accept the fact that you are probably going to die.
C) Charge the Japanese line anyway, even if all your plane has are depth charges (because you were on anti-submarine patrol) or if all your ship has are guns that will bounce off the larger ship’s armor.
D) Somehow pull off a miraculous victory through one of history’s most impressive shows of courage, determination, and sacrifice.
E) All of the above.
As you can guess, the men of the group (Taffy 3) did all of the above. American planes swarmed the Japanese cruisers, destroyers, and battleships, sometimes even when they didn’t have any weapons, because it might make the ships swerve and slow them down. The destroyers and destroyer escorts attacked even though the Japanese ships were far more powerful, hoping to give the aircraft carriers (six of them) a chance to escape. And in the end, the Japanese turned around without annihilating Taffy 3 and without attacking recently landed US ground forces under MacArthur. If you want to know how they managed it, you’ll have to read the book.
I’ve read a few books dealing at least in part with the war in the Philippines, but this is the first one I’ve read about the naval action in October 1944 and I enjoyed reading about something new. Hornfischer did an excellent job showing the readers the horrors of naval combat without being gory. He also did a good job explaining things so that readers without a naval background (like me) could understand the events, but I never felt he was hitting me over the head with information I already knew.
The men of Taffy 3 were true heroes. The book starts off a teeny bit slow, but it quickly becomes absorbing. Highly recommended....more
If you read this book for the story, you’ll probably find it average. The writing is beautiful and very descriptive, but the pace is slow. The main chIf you read this book for the story, you’ll probably find it average. The writing is beautiful and very descriptive, but the pace is slow. The main character, Anna, goes to Constantinople to find evidence that will clear her brother’s name, and it takes her years to gather even the basics of what happened. But if you read it as an exploration of revenge, redemption, loyalty, faith, and sacrifice, the book is profound. Set at a time when the people of Constantinople were faced with the choice of allying with the church in Rome or standing firm in their beliefs and being destroyed by crusaders from the west, questions of faith and expediency came up repeatedly, and kept me thinking. I also enjoyed the history. I wouldn’t recommend the book to everyone, but if you like Les Miserables, this is probably worth adding to your list. Neither are page-turners, but if you’re willing to put in a little effort, they both offer a thought-provoking look at the best and the worst in human nature, and the beauty of God’s mercy. 4 or 4.5 stars....more
This book started out OK and ended really good. The plot was especially well done, one of those stories that kept me wanting to read “just a little moThis book started out OK and ended really good. The plot was especially well done, one of those stories that kept me wanting to read “just a little more” before I put it down. Recommended if you enjoy thrillers with a side of clean romance....more
This was a first-hand account of a British pilot who flew during 1917. It’s made mostly of letters to his wife and bits of his diary, all of them editThis was a first-hand account of a British pilot who flew during 1917. It’s made mostly of letters to his wife and bits of his diary, all of them edited many years later to make the account more concise and add in things like locations that would have been censored during the war.
Lee begins his combat career in the spring of 1917—it’s a time when the Germans have the better airplanes, and Royal Flying Corp casualties are high. Most of his time is spent in France, but his squadron also takes a rotation in England, protecting London from Gotha bombers. He’s relieved of active combat duty in early 1918, after the Battle of Cambrai.
I enjoyed the entire book, although I found the Battle of Cambrai the most engrossing part. If someone were to write Lee’s real-life experiences down in a novel, modern readers would find it hard to believe. (view spoiler)[He was shot down three times in nine days, usually just behind the British lines, once in no-man’s land. Miraculously, he walked away with no serious injuries. (hide spoiler)]
I found it interesting to watch Lee change from an eager pilot to a worn out veteran, disillusioned with RFC problems (like inferior airplanes) and the war’s high toll in human life. He lost a lot of friends and saw a lot of hard things. But the book also covers the day-to-day aspects of war, some of it humorous, some of it almost normal, offering a good picture of what life was like for a WWI pilot.
Lee summarizes his WWI career best in his own words: I’ve spent a lazy and interesting hour going through my log-book. I find I’ve done 386 hours solo, plus 12.5 hours dual. I’ve done 260 hours in France, of which 222 were over the Lines. I’ve done 118 patrols and ground strafings, been reported missing four times, had 56 combats, and shot down 11 Huns, 5 by me solo, the rest shared. Not wonderful compared with people like Ball, Bishop, Collishaw and McCudden, and I’m miles from being an ace, but at least I’m not a pigeon any longer, in fact I think I can consider myself practically a hawk! (He probably would have had more victories if his squadron hadn’t been so slow to upgrade from Sopwith Pups to Sopwith Camels, and he admits his aim on many occasions was less than superb.)
Especially telling were some of the differences in his letters to his wife and his journal.
For example, this passage from a letter: You ask me why we carry an automatic in the cockpit. Well, it’s not to use in a dog-fight when the Vickers packs up, though pilots have been known to try a shot. It’s officially to protect yourself if you have to forced-land in Hunland, though I can’t see anybody getting far with that. What they’re most useful for is killing frogs. (This shortly after a complaint that the frogs kept the men awake at night.)
And this, from his diary: Today’s query from home—why do I carry a Colt in the cockpit? For the reason we all do. Not to stage a one-man battle against a platoon of Boche soldiery if forced down the other side—I’d be butchered instantly. No, it’s a fear of being set alight. It’s something nobody talks about, but it’s at the back of everyone’s mind, and each of us knows he couldn’t take it. To be burned alive, however soon it’s over, is the one thing we can’t face. Better to use the gun and end it in a split second.
The author explains in the preface that he’s edited out the parts of his letters that don’t deal with the war. So if anyone is leery of reading a man’s mushy letters to his wife, have no fear. Either the couple didn’t write overly-sentimental letters, or the more personal sections have all been removed. I actually wouldn’t have minded more information about his relationship with his wife. Honestly, I was surprised as some of the things he told her. She must have had quite a few near-heart-attacks reading about her husband’s narrow escapes.
My understanding is that another of the author’s books, Open Cockpit, covers the same time period, but in memoir form instead of as a collection of letters. It’s on my to-read list, but until I’ve read them both I won’t be able to recommend one over the other.
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